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I'm the one that wrote this article, and it has been much added to and improved. But things that I think should be here have been taken out:
That it was "the only integrated venue in Harlem" is too weak. It was the only one in New York City and the State of New York. In fact I can't think offhand of another one of this antiquity anywhere in the United States.
Also "subject to integration" doesn't put it right. No one was pressuring Smalls to integrate. deisenbe ( talk) 17:23, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
The name seems to be clearly stated. The only working air conditioning in Harlem is trivial IMO. The article mentions Malcolm X.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:24, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
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Well done on all the work put into this, Blofeld, Rosiestep and We hope! I'll leave this on hold until all of the above are clarified. The sources look great, and I couldn't find any issues with the images. There were a few instances of informal prose, but they can easily be dealt with. JAG UAR 21:54, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Are we sure that the place was "often erroneously called Small's Paradise and Smalls' Paradise"? A quick flick through classified ads via ProQuest results shows that it advertised itself using any of the three in the early 1940s, as "Smalls Paradise" in the early 1950s, and as "Smalls' Paradise" in the mid-1950s and into the early 1960s. Or is the argument that the typesetters got it wrong? Either way, the "erroneously" needs considerable justification, given the conflicting evidence. EddieHugh ( talk) 14:13, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Yes, we've established that the marquee said "Smalls" (although there's also this photo, possibly of the same place, which has "The Small's Paradise"). The equivalent outside the Blue Note has "Blue Note" and "Blue Note Jazz Club", so a sign alone can't be taken to be sufficient. We've also established that newspaper advertising for SP used all three, perhaps at different times. It's hard to justify the use of "erroneously" when the club itself appears to have used those forms. Wouldn't it be better to give an account, perhaps in a footnote, of the variations and where they appeared, as "erroneously" at the moment is an assumption? EddieHugh ( talk) 15:59, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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Does everyone agree that the claim to have the only working air conditioning in Harlem is trivial? (See above.) We all take air conditioning for granted (in the U.S. at least). So I think it's more important than one might realize at first glance. If one lived in a tenement, on a hot summer night (and remember that New York, like all cities, is a center of heat), an air conditioned facility would be attractive. Movie theaters put up signs saying "It's cool inside!"
(If anyone shares my interest in the history of technology, these systems were using ammonia, not Freon, and were far too expensive for a typical home.) deisenbe ( talk) 13:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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I'm the one that wrote this article, and it has been much added to and improved. But things that I think should be here have been taken out:
That it was "the only integrated venue in Harlem" is too weak. It was the only one in New York City and the State of New York. In fact I can't think offhand of another one of this antiquity anywhere in the United States.
Also "subject to integration" doesn't put it right. No one was pressuring Smalls to integrate. deisenbe ( talk) 17:23, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
The name seems to be clearly stated. The only working air conditioning in Harlem is trivial IMO. The article mentions Malcolm X.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:24, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Jaguar ( talk · contribs) 21:17, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
I should finish this tomorrow
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Well done on all the work put into this, Blofeld, Rosiestep and We hope! I'll leave this on hold until all of the above are clarified. The sources look great, and I couldn't find any issues with the images. There were a few instances of informal prose, but they can easily be dealt with. JAG UAR 21:54, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Are we sure that the place was "often erroneously called Small's Paradise and Smalls' Paradise"? A quick flick through classified ads via ProQuest results shows that it advertised itself using any of the three in the early 1940s, as "Smalls Paradise" in the early 1950s, and as "Smalls' Paradise" in the mid-1950s and into the early 1960s. Or is the argument that the typesetters got it wrong? Either way, the "erroneously" needs considerable justification, given the conflicting evidence. EddieHugh ( talk) 14:13, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Yes, we've established that the marquee said "Smalls" (although there's also this photo, possibly of the same place, which has "The Small's Paradise"). The equivalent outside the Blue Note has "Blue Note" and "Blue Note Jazz Club", so a sign alone can't be taken to be sufficient. We've also established that newspaper advertising for SP used all three, perhaps at different times. It's hard to justify the use of "erroneously" when the club itself appears to have used those forms. Wouldn't it be better to give an account, perhaps in a footnote, of the variations and where they appeared, as "erroneously" at the moment is an assumption? EddieHugh ( talk) 15:59, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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Does everyone agree that the claim to have the only working air conditioning in Harlem is trivial? (See above.) We all take air conditioning for granted (in the U.S. at least). So I think it's more important than one might realize at first glance. If one lived in a tenement, on a hot summer night (and remember that New York, like all cities, is a center of heat), an air conditioned facility would be attractive. Movie theaters put up signs saying "It's cool inside!"
(If anyone shares my interest in the history of technology, these systems were using ammonia, not Freon, and were far too expensive for a typical home.) deisenbe ( talk) 13:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)