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Is Janša's communist background really relevant in this case? At the time, the only way to enter politics was by joining the Communist Party, and virtually all of the major political figures in Slovenia have some sort of a communist background. Also, Janša was prosecuted for his critics of the Party in the infamous Trial of the Four and he doesn't associate himself with his communist past. Besides, other party articles ( LDS, SD, NSi, SLS) do not include such data. edolen1 21:52, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Two things should be mentioned about the history of SDS:
1. Its name SDS was most of the time of its history read as 'Social-Democrat Party'. They changed it only a few months ago to 'Slovenian Democratic Party'.
2. Now it may be a member of EPP, but at first it applied for a membership of another EU party - either Socialists or Liberals (I can not remember which).
Please someone with accurate information add this to the article. NikNovi 11:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
In what meaning is liberal conservatism listed here? As Conservative on moral and social issues, or as more libertarian, promoting individual liberty with economic freedom? Thanks -- Novis-M ( talk) 01:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey y'all! I have some problems with the section "Radical Populist Turn". If I remember correctly, the section used to be called "Conservative Turn" which is more neutral. There's little sourcing for the party's radical populism of that period: and the two mentioned are problematic. Rudi Rizman is quoted as a political scientist although he's trained as a sociologist; and he's the sole and only reference in this regard (the other article quotes Rizman and bases his whole analysis on him - so it's Rizman all over again, with a detour). Jambrek's quote doesn't refer at all to the period 1996-2000 (when he was in fact a supporter of the party), but to the period of the economic populist turn (ie. 2009-2011): check the date and the quotes. Viator slovenicus ( talk) 13:30, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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Following this, let's talk about the use of the term "pro-market".
I think this term could mean different things to different people. For example, if the government regulates mergers to ensure competition between companies, is this "pro-market" because a market requires competition, or is it the opposite, because it is government interference in the capital markets?
As Jay points out, there are lots of sources that talk about SDS favouring deregulation, privatisation, tax cuts and labour market flexibility. So let us talk about those more meaningful things instead.
Yaris678 ( talk) 09:03, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
I have added the {{ unreliable sources}} and {{ POV}} tags to the article. It is against basic writing hygiene to use the leftist Mladina to source an article on their political adversary. Not only is it impossible to distinguish fact from fiction in such clearly ideological sources, but the whole perspective is most probably distorted. [1] Mladina is used in as much as 69 instances. This source should be replaced with a more reliable one and the material should be left out if there is no replacement available. -- TadejM my talk 03:13, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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Is Janša's communist background really relevant in this case? At the time, the only way to enter politics was by joining the Communist Party, and virtually all of the major political figures in Slovenia have some sort of a communist background. Also, Janša was prosecuted for his critics of the Party in the infamous Trial of the Four and he doesn't associate himself with his communist past. Besides, other party articles ( LDS, SD, NSi, SLS) do not include such data. edolen1 21:52, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Two things should be mentioned about the history of SDS:
1. Its name SDS was most of the time of its history read as 'Social-Democrat Party'. They changed it only a few months ago to 'Slovenian Democratic Party'.
2. Now it may be a member of EPP, but at first it applied for a membership of another EU party - either Socialists or Liberals (I can not remember which).
Please someone with accurate information add this to the article. NikNovi 11:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
In what meaning is liberal conservatism listed here? As Conservative on moral and social issues, or as more libertarian, promoting individual liberty with economic freedom? Thanks -- Novis-M ( talk) 01:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey y'all! I have some problems with the section "Radical Populist Turn". If I remember correctly, the section used to be called "Conservative Turn" which is more neutral. There's little sourcing for the party's radical populism of that period: and the two mentioned are problematic. Rudi Rizman is quoted as a political scientist although he's trained as a sociologist; and he's the sole and only reference in this regard (the other article quotes Rizman and bases his whole analysis on him - so it's Rizman all over again, with a detour). Jambrek's quote doesn't refer at all to the period 1996-2000 (when he was in fact a supporter of the party), but to the period of the economic populist turn (ie. 2009-2011): check the date and the quotes. Viator slovenicus ( talk) 13:30, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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Following this, let's talk about the use of the term "pro-market".
I think this term could mean different things to different people. For example, if the government regulates mergers to ensure competition between companies, is this "pro-market" because a market requires competition, or is it the opposite, because it is government interference in the capital markets?
As Jay points out, there are lots of sources that talk about SDS favouring deregulation, privatisation, tax cuts and labour market flexibility. So let us talk about those more meaningful things instead.
Yaris678 ( talk) 09:03, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
I have added the {{ unreliable sources}} and {{ POV}} tags to the article. It is against basic writing hygiene to use the leftist Mladina to source an article on their political adversary. Not only is it impossible to distinguish fact from fiction in such clearly ideological sources, but the whole perspective is most probably distorted. [1] Mladina is used in as much as 69 instances. This source should be replaced with a more reliable one and the material should be left out if there is no replacement available. -- TadejM my talk 03:13, 22 December 2022 (UTC)