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== Windows XP on XScale ==
It's highly dubious that Windows XP runs on on XScale. Windows CE might, but not Windows XP. The cited source is probably mistaken. Windows XP is not on XScale. -- KJRehberg ( talk) 04:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I am looking for a free image of this device. If someone can help, please do so!-- Kozuch ( talk) 18:07, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
The end of the Alternative Names section Mentions that there are also other versions which apparently use the same body but a totally different CPU Architecture (XScale ARM, Vortex86 x86) - those are imho separate devices which should be discussed in a separate article, of course there should be a notice that devices with the same body come with totaly different internals - An issue however is the Lemma. How to call these Articles? Are those devices really produced by Skytone altogether? Things get quiet confusing here, could someone with a bit more information please separate the articles in a sensible way?
78.52.135.221 (
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17:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I don't know who made up the ARM version, but I could find no indict or whatsoever that this device is available with an ARM CPUthere is a arm version indeed - shame on me. But some references could have done well here - Seems like there is only the Jz4730/Jz4740 (some devices said they feature a 360MHz CPU which would be the later one, however, most of the vendors claim that the CPU is clocked at 400MHz which is not true. Devices which popped up here in Europe/Germany came with a 336MHz CPU - the Jz4730. (according to cpuinfo)
Than there is the Vortex86 one, that's an Intel 486DX compatible chip clocked at 1GHz, this seems to be the 'better version' of the device, it comes with an XGI Z9s 2D GPU. The Vortex86DX and the PDX-600 only differ in the number and avaliability of serial ports, servo controllers, etc - the 'real' Vortex86DX comes with additional industrial features, but when it comes to performance, it's the same as the PDX-600.
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I thought Exon was just another OEM and Skytone is the ODM - or someone completely different. What gives you the hint that Exon is the original one? Mewtu ( talk) 00:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I have opened the Alpha before and can tell you that the PCB is stamped with Skytone's name. That leads me to believe Skytone is indeed the ODM. Giodtech ( talk) 06:14, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mewtu ( talk • contribs) 17:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
The FCC database entry for the Skytone Alpha 400 (FCC ID WMGALPHA400) points to the Sungworld SW-E700 (FCC ID WI3SW-E700). 188.195.204.24 ( talk) 21:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Ok, there is an ARM Version of such a device (uses the Jade Z228 SoC), but that's another Laptop - just as the Vortex86 Version is another laptop. So to get this straight: There the following three Versions:
You can't write all them into the article about this device, as this device is the MIPS one. They don't differ that much in appearance but when it comes to internal values, they couldn't be more different - You wouldn't create an article about all Atom based netbooks together, but on the other hand, it would be much clearer to create something like wired 7" Netbooks from China, create 3 Sections and list the brand names they come as there.
Some 'clearness': another ODM? - nice overview however (ok, they get the MIPS one wrong ;-) Or maybe there is really some 400MHz XScale Chip out there.. -- 62.180.145.73 ( talk) 22:11, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I merged the three existing articles to the said one and added information about the other two 'versions' of the device. I don't feel that well about the lemma, however, I can't merge it to Skytone Alpha 400 as that's the MIPS version exclusively - and I'm not that sure any longer weather this name is more original than all the other ones. So if you feel anything from this article is missing in the new one, just put it there. Still, I feel Subnetbook is a bit too generic as it fits to a lot of other devises - so would it be sane to collect them there altogether if they don't have one or two common names for an own article? Duplication of knowledge usually leads to mistakes and disarray. Let's finish the merge. -- Mewtu ( talk) 00:27, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
There is now a port of Android to the 32bit-MIPS architecture, [4] this might mean that in the future a version of the Skytone Alpha might run the Android OS. It would be a nice fit to the hardware, as Android needs little memory to work, on the HTC Dream (googlePhone) it needs just 256 MB of NAND flash, and 128MB of SDRAM. Mahjongg ( talk) 16:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
OpenWRT and Linux 2.6.31 have been ported to the SoC -
OpenWRT-x-burst
-
Mewtu (
talk)
18:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, the port is for the
ben NanoNote, a simmilar device, the uImage however is not working with the skytone device. -19:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
$130 is a great price for a computer, but it is not notable as a basis for inclusion in an encyclopedia soly for that purpose. So I have added the advertisement template hoping to make it's low cost a once-stated fact, and not a repeating sound bite. The advertising tone is throughout, but I enumerate the most disconcerting observations. Please note that Talk:Netbook#MIPS_subsection_removal is part of this discussion.
You certainly deserve a remark. You are definitely worth all the time you ask for. Here it is: look at the MIPS of Netbook wikitext. It says "at very low cost". It's just commented out. Specifically, the history shows "The netbook brand Skytone Alpha 400 features a MIPS architecture CPU—the 64-bit Loongson that is capable of about 400 million instructions per second, at very low cost." 12:42, 16 September 2009 Cpiral (talk | contribs) (32,632 bytes) (→MIPS architecture: this is an advertisement. This is the second removal.)And then there's: 14:43, 6 August 2009 Cpiral (talk | contribs) (27,784 bytes) (changed section heading titles, added MIPS section back without the advertisement in it) 19:56, 1 August 2009 Cpiral (talk | contribs) (27,484 bytes) (remove MIPS section, as it was an advertisement, see the talk section 18) (undo). And the talk section is still there, section 18 "MIPS subsection removal" with no comment. Hmmm.
Heroic people like OLPC's Nicholas Negroponte, and Wikipedia's ( Jimmy Wales who strive for global good tidings, they get my vote and my time.
OK, now I see why the reference to children in the article. There's the adult theme, then there's the children's theme. Kinda like OLPC theme, eh? I get it now. It all sounds like such an advertisement. I've started reforming it, so someone will one day wonder why it has
![]() | This article contains content that is written like
an advertisement. |
and, judge it not to be so. Sincerely CpiralCpiral 01:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
The IUNIKA Gyy is a similar machine but has nothing to do with Skytone. Moved the references to IUnika.
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== Windows XP on XScale ==
It's highly dubious that Windows XP runs on on XScale. Windows CE might, but not Windows XP. The cited source is probably mistaken. Windows XP is not on XScale. -- KJRehberg ( talk) 04:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I am looking for a free image of this device. If someone can help, please do so!-- Kozuch ( talk) 18:07, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
The end of the Alternative Names section Mentions that there are also other versions which apparently use the same body but a totally different CPU Architecture (XScale ARM, Vortex86 x86) - those are imho separate devices which should be discussed in a separate article, of course there should be a notice that devices with the same body come with totaly different internals - An issue however is the Lemma. How to call these Articles? Are those devices really produced by Skytone altogether? Things get quiet confusing here, could someone with a bit more information please separate the articles in a sensible way?
78.52.135.221 (
talk)
17:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I don't know who made up the ARM version, but I could find no indict or whatsoever that this device is available with an ARM CPUthere is a arm version indeed - shame on me. But some references could have done well here - Seems like there is only the Jz4730/Jz4740 (some devices said they feature a 360MHz CPU which would be the later one, however, most of the vendors claim that the CPU is clocked at 400MHz which is not true. Devices which popped up here in Europe/Germany came with a 336MHz CPU - the Jz4730. (according to cpuinfo)
Than there is the Vortex86 one, that's an Intel 486DX compatible chip clocked at 1GHz, this seems to be the 'better version' of the device, it comes with an XGI Z9s 2D GPU. The Vortex86DX and the PDX-600 only differ in the number and avaliability of serial ports, servo controllers, etc - the 'real' Vortex86DX comes with additional industrial features, but when it comes to performance, it's the same as the PDX-600.
[1]
I thought Exon was just another OEM and Skytone is the ODM - or someone completely different. What gives you the hint that Exon is the original one? Mewtu ( talk) 00:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I have opened the Alpha before and can tell you that the PCB is stamped with Skytone's name. That leads me to believe Skytone is indeed the ODM. Giodtech ( talk) 06:14, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mewtu ( talk • contribs) 17:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
The FCC database entry for the Skytone Alpha 400 (FCC ID WMGALPHA400) points to the Sungworld SW-E700 (FCC ID WI3SW-E700). 188.195.204.24 ( talk) 21:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Ok, there is an ARM Version of such a device (uses the Jade Z228 SoC), but that's another Laptop - just as the Vortex86 Version is another laptop. So to get this straight: There the following three Versions:
You can't write all them into the article about this device, as this device is the MIPS one. They don't differ that much in appearance but when it comes to internal values, they couldn't be more different - You wouldn't create an article about all Atom based netbooks together, but on the other hand, it would be much clearer to create something like wired 7" Netbooks from China, create 3 Sections and list the brand names they come as there.
Some 'clearness': another ODM? - nice overview however (ok, they get the MIPS one wrong ;-) Or maybe there is really some 400MHz XScale Chip out there.. -- 62.180.145.73 ( talk) 22:11, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I merged the three existing articles to the said one and added information about the other two 'versions' of the device. I don't feel that well about the lemma, however, I can't merge it to Skytone Alpha 400 as that's the MIPS version exclusively - and I'm not that sure any longer weather this name is more original than all the other ones. So if you feel anything from this article is missing in the new one, just put it there. Still, I feel Subnetbook is a bit too generic as it fits to a lot of other devises - so would it be sane to collect them there altogether if they don't have one or two common names for an own article? Duplication of knowledge usually leads to mistakes and disarray. Let's finish the merge. -- Mewtu ( talk) 00:27, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
There is now a port of Android to the 32bit-MIPS architecture, [4] this might mean that in the future a version of the Skytone Alpha might run the Android OS. It would be a nice fit to the hardware, as Android needs little memory to work, on the HTC Dream (googlePhone) it needs just 256 MB of NAND flash, and 128MB of SDRAM. Mahjongg ( talk) 16:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
OpenWRT and Linux 2.6.31 have been ported to the SoC -
OpenWRT-x-burst
-
Mewtu (
talk)
18:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, the port is for the
ben NanoNote, a simmilar device, the uImage however is not working with the skytone device. -19:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
$130 is a great price for a computer, but it is not notable as a basis for inclusion in an encyclopedia soly for that purpose. So I have added the advertisement template hoping to make it's low cost a once-stated fact, and not a repeating sound bite. The advertising tone is throughout, but I enumerate the most disconcerting observations. Please note that Talk:Netbook#MIPS_subsection_removal is part of this discussion.
You certainly deserve a remark. You are definitely worth all the time you ask for. Here it is: look at the MIPS of Netbook wikitext. It says "at very low cost". It's just commented out. Specifically, the history shows "The netbook brand Skytone Alpha 400 features a MIPS architecture CPU—the 64-bit Loongson that is capable of about 400 million instructions per second, at very low cost." 12:42, 16 September 2009 Cpiral (talk | contribs) (32,632 bytes) (→MIPS architecture: this is an advertisement. This is the second removal.)And then there's: 14:43, 6 August 2009 Cpiral (talk | contribs) (27,784 bytes) (changed section heading titles, added MIPS section back without the advertisement in it) 19:56, 1 August 2009 Cpiral (talk | contribs) (27,484 bytes) (remove MIPS section, as it was an advertisement, see the talk section 18) (undo). And the talk section is still there, section 18 "MIPS subsection removal" with no comment. Hmmm.
Heroic people like OLPC's Nicholas Negroponte, and Wikipedia's ( Jimmy Wales who strive for global good tidings, they get my vote and my time.
OK, now I see why the reference to children in the article. There's the adult theme, then there's the children's theme. Kinda like OLPC theme, eh? I get it now. It all sounds like such an advertisement. I've started reforming it, so someone will one day wonder why it has
![]() | This article contains content that is written like
an advertisement. |
and, judge it not to be so. Sincerely CpiralCpiral 01:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
The IUNIKA Gyy is a similar machine but has nothing to do with Skytone. Moved the references to IUnika.