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Theres something wrong with the link for the M71 howitzer. It redirects to the M71 star cluster instead. Howitzers M71 155 mm Towed Howitzer Venny85 ( talk) 15:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I've copyedited the opening part of this article, but it needs a lot more from someone who understands the subject. sjorford →•← 09:26, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
I removed the AMX-10RC from the table since there are no sources about Singapore operating this variant. Also placed "Tempest (modernized Centurion MBT)" in the line about the Cents. Edward Sandstig 11:59, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Merged the MICV and IFV section since they're the same thing. (MICV being the British term an IFV being the term used by most other countries) -- Edward Sandstig 18:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I've reverted the text to A1 - the M-16S1 does not have among other things, easily adjustable windage and elevation knobs, three-round burst, upper/lower handguards which the M-16A2 has. -- Rifleman 82 01:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
The M-16S1 is similar to the M-16A1 model because it was license produced even before the M-16A2 came out Assassin3577 ( talk) 11:48, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the sentence:
"... military force, the largest in quantity ... South-East Asia region."
In terms of active troops, Singapore actually has the smallest military among its immediate neighbours. If we include the reserve, things get abit fuzzy, like: are there 3 divs, or 6 divs etc (note that some units are never mobilised and exist on paper only), should we include paramilitary of Malaysia and Indonesian etc. It is not entirely clear.-- Vsion 17:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Is there a reference for the information of "Tempest (modernized Centurion MBTs)" found in the table, both for the quantity as well as the name of "Tempest". Thanks. -- Vsion 00:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
(1) The number of Centurions should be 60, as this is often cited. Although this is fuzzy territory, as the figure varies, with some sources citing the higher figure of 80-100. However, the dominant one is 60 centurions.
(2) The number of 105mm arty guns (60) is exaggerated. More commonly seen figure for LG1 is 40+. I know there is no official figures for all these, but then we should stick to what is commonly cited by foreign publications.
(3) The figures for Primus as well as Pegasus (cited as 54) is the target figure, not present operational strength. Since they are both new, there should be one battalion each, yielding a figure of 18 for each weapon.
(4) The figure for Bionix total (excluding Bionix II) should be 500 instead of 600. And the claim of 100 Bionix II is unlikely to be true, as this is new equipment. Most probably one battalion active. And not all will be 30 mm cannon-armed, as the structure is one 40/50 Bx for every Cannon-armed Bx.
(5) Having said all these, it must be pointed out that it is highly probable that Singapore has more weapons of certain types than is reported by sources like Janes'.
Daniel Ehud
15:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm currently working on a project to create graphics of the structure of the most important Armies. i.e. France. I want to make also a graphic of the structure of the Singapore Army, but the information at this point is not sufficient, as there is no information what units compose the single divisions, brigades and Regiments. Does anyone have this information- down to the Battalion and Company levels? Thanks noclador
Since when did the Singapore Army have such a tank? The Tempests do exist, but I don't think they have this old US made tank. Which source is this from? Cibwins 03:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
According to an un-named source of mine, SAF has acquired a small quantity of SIMON breach grenade, a new kind of Door breaching rifle grenade (RELM/GREM) that is currently in use by the US Army and Israeli Defense Force, for test and evaluation purposes. Please provide me with any additional data so I can add this into the main page. Thank you. -- Dave1185 ( talk) 05:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
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As in history of the Singapore army. Use the ST archives-- http://newspapers.nl.sg/Default.aspx as a start Other dictionaries are better ( talk) 10:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
I have temporarily protected this page from editing to force discussion on the talk page and stop the current edit war. Please discuss the disputed content here. -- Diannaa ( talk) 16:19, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
How reliable is intelligenceonline? The merkava purchase seems to be a rumour and there does not seem to be any other source backing this claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangewarning ( talk • contribs) 10:21, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
This article (like many Singapore military-related articles) is a mess. It's less of a mess now, after I edited for style, flow and clarity, excised clumsy expressions and weird syntax, trimmed sentences for economy, and terminated clauses that read as though someone wrote them in Singlish before translating them to English. It was horrible to read, offensive to anyone who doesn't have a tin ear for English.
So please, do not revert. Do not insert unnecessary localisms and superfluous words that interrupt the flow of the article. Less is more.
Years ago Singapore-related Wikipedia articles used to be good. Most of them are shit now, near-incoherent because of piecemeal edits (often made using unidiomatic English) that ruin, just ruin, the explanatory flow of an article. 121.6.144.209 ( talk) 17:12, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
needs improvement suggest looking at ST archives
Cantab1985 ( talk) 14:38, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
This list should be shortened. Just because they were COA doesn't mean they are notable.
Sammartinlai ( talk) 02:00, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
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Theres something wrong with the link for the M71 howitzer. It redirects to the M71 star cluster instead. Howitzers M71 155 mm Towed Howitzer Venny85 ( talk) 15:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I've copyedited the opening part of this article, but it needs a lot more from someone who understands the subject. sjorford →•← 09:26, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
I removed the AMX-10RC from the table since there are no sources about Singapore operating this variant. Also placed "Tempest (modernized Centurion MBT)" in the line about the Cents. Edward Sandstig 11:59, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Merged the MICV and IFV section since they're the same thing. (MICV being the British term an IFV being the term used by most other countries) -- Edward Sandstig 18:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I've reverted the text to A1 - the M-16S1 does not have among other things, easily adjustable windage and elevation knobs, three-round burst, upper/lower handguards which the M-16A2 has. -- Rifleman 82 01:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
The M-16S1 is similar to the M-16A1 model because it was license produced even before the M-16A2 came out Assassin3577 ( talk) 11:48, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the sentence:
"... military force, the largest in quantity ... South-East Asia region."
In terms of active troops, Singapore actually has the smallest military among its immediate neighbours. If we include the reserve, things get abit fuzzy, like: are there 3 divs, or 6 divs etc (note that some units are never mobilised and exist on paper only), should we include paramilitary of Malaysia and Indonesian etc. It is not entirely clear.-- Vsion 17:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Is there a reference for the information of "Tempest (modernized Centurion MBTs)" found in the table, both for the quantity as well as the name of "Tempest". Thanks. -- Vsion 00:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
(1) The number of Centurions should be 60, as this is often cited. Although this is fuzzy territory, as the figure varies, with some sources citing the higher figure of 80-100. However, the dominant one is 60 centurions.
(2) The number of 105mm arty guns (60) is exaggerated. More commonly seen figure for LG1 is 40+. I know there is no official figures for all these, but then we should stick to what is commonly cited by foreign publications.
(3) The figures for Primus as well as Pegasus (cited as 54) is the target figure, not present operational strength. Since they are both new, there should be one battalion each, yielding a figure of 18 for each weapon.
(4) The figure for Bionix total (excluding Bionix II) should be 500 instead of 600. And the claim of 100 Bionix II is unlikely to be true, as this is new equipment. Most probably one battalion active. And not all will be 30 mm cannon-armed, as the structure is one 40/50 Bx for every Cannon-armed Bx.
(5) Having said all these, it must be pointed out that it is highly probable that Singapore has more weapons of certain types than is reported by sources like Janes'.
Daniel Ehud
15:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm currently working on a project to create graphics of the structure of the most important Armies. i.e. France. I want to make also a graphic of the structure of the Singapore Army, but the information at this point is not sufficient, as there is no information what units compose the single divisions, brigades and Regiments. Does anyone have this information- down to the Battalion and Company levels? Thanks noclador
Since when did the Singapore Army have such a tank? The Tempests do exist, but I don't think they have this old US made tank. Which source is this from? Cibwins 03:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
According to an un-named source of mine, SAF has acquired a small quantity of SIMON breach grenade, a new kind of Door breaching rifle grenade (RELM/GREM) that is currently in use by the US Army and Israeli Defense Force, for test and evaluation purposes. Please provide me with any additional data so I can add this into the main page. Thank you. -- Dave1185 ( talk) 05:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:BX mk2.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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As in history of the Singapore army. Use the ST archives-- http://newspapers.nl.sg/Default.aspx as a start Other dictionaries are better ( talk) 10:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
I have temporarily protected this page from editing to force discussion on the talk page and stop the current edit war. Please discuss the disputed content here. -- Diannaa ( talk) 16:19, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
How reliable is intelligenceonline? The merkava purchase seems to be a rumour and there does not seem to be any other source backing this claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangewarning ( talk • contribs) 10:21, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
This article (like many Singapore military-related articles) is a mess. It's less of a mess now, after I edited for style, flow and clarity, excised clumsy expressions and weird syntax, trimmed sentences for economy, and terminated clauses that read as though someone wrote them in Singlish before translating them to English. It was horrible to read, offensive to anyone who doesn't have a tin ear for English.
So please, do not revert. Do not insert unnecessary localisms and superfluous words that interrupt the flow of the article. Less is more.
Years ago Singapore-related Wikipedia articles used to be good. Most of them are shit now, near-incoherent because of piecemeal edits (often made using unidiomatic English) that ruin, just ruin, the explanatory flow of an article. 121.6.144.209 ( talk) 17:12, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
needs improvement suggest looking at ST archives
Cantab1985 ( talk) 14:38, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
This list should be shortened. Just because they were COA doesn't mean they are notable.
Sammartinlai ( talk) 02:00, 23 November 2018 (UTC)