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The article creator has also created Draft:Today News Africa, a promotional draft about Ateba's news organisation; in addition, they have uploaded several photos of Ateba (including the one used in this article) stating that they are "own work". bonadea contributions talk 13:25, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
But this was made by only one editor, not all or many editors.Sorry – I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "this". What was made by one editor (and which editor?)
if you are saying Fox News, New York Post, Daily Mail, Daily Beast, Mediaite, Daily Wire, Salon, International Business Times, National Review, Premium Times, Global Voices, Chanel 4, and several others who have quoted the work of the journalist in question over the years, are not really reliable sourcesI'm not saying that. I explain that Fox News is considered to be borderline reliable, while New York Post, Daily Mail, and International Business Times are generally unreliable. This is not my own opinion or evaluation, but the consensus opinion of Wikipedia's editors, following multiple discussions about those specific sources. Because we are expected to follow the consensus among our fellow volunteer editors, I have removed the New York Post, Daily Mail, and International Business Times sources that you added. Fox News is not classified as generally unreliable, but for obvious reasons we should be very careful about how much we rely on their reporting. Again, there is more information here. Finally, very important: Wikipedia does not have "profiles" of people or organisations or concepts. It has articles. Regards, -- bonadea contributions talk 20:34, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
That someone was born in a particular country does not mean that they are from that country.Foo? What else would it mean? As for the "chief White House Correspondent for Today News Africa" bit – that's pure promotional fluff, you know. Please keep in mind that "Every statement that you make about the journalist in question should be backed up by a reliable source", and the only source for that is Fox News which, as you hopefully know by now, is borderline reliable. (Today News Africa is not a reliable source for that kind of statement, which should be obvious.) A title like "chief White House correspondent" doesn't mean much if there's no other staff on the news agency.
I haven't edited Wikipedia in ages, but I was so taken aback by part of the exchange on this talk page that I had to comment.
By all means, block the pie guy and remove the unreliable sources. However, pie guy is absolutely right about one thing: the fact that Ateba was born in Camaroon does not support the article's claim that he is Camaroonian. To be Camaroonian, he would need to be a Camcaroonian citizen. The fact that he was born there doesn't mean that he is a citizen. I was born in South Korea but was adopted by Americans as a baby and don't have Korean citizenship.
I will be bold and remove the claim that he is Camaroonian. Phatius McBluff ( talk) 14:29, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
The Daily Beast isn't a reliable source, especially with BLPs. Notice that that blog is being used to primarily add negative or pejorative information to this article. I'll give it a day or so for comment before I remove it. 152.130.15.3 ( talk) 15:55, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
And Fox News is questionable for anything about US politics. I have substituted the last addition but there still are a few more Fox citations left. — Paleo Neonate – 03:29, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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The article creator has also created Draft:Today News Africa, a promotional draft about Ateba's news organisation; in addition, they have uploaded several photos of Ateba (including the one used in this article) stating that they are "own work". bonadea contributions talk 13:25, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
But this was made by only one editor, not all or many editors.Sorry – I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "this". What was made by one editor (and which editor?)
if you are saying Fox News, New York Post, Daily Mail, Daily Beast, Mediaite, Daily Wire, Salon, International Business Times, National Review, Premium Times, Global Voices, Chanel 4, and several others who have quoted the work of the journalist in question over the years, are not really reliable sourcesI'm not saying that. I explain that Fox News is considered to be borderline reliable, while New York Post, Daily Mail, and International Business Times are generally unreliable. This is not my own opinion or evaluation, but the consensus opinion of Wikipedia's editors, following multiple discussions about those specific sources. Because we are expected to follow the consensus among our fellow volunteer editors, I have removed the New York Post, Daily Mail, and International Business Times sources that you added. Fox News is not classified as generally unreliable, but for obvious reasons we should be very careful about how much we rely on their reporting. Again, there is more information here. Finally, very important: Wikipedia does not have "profiles" of people or organisations or concepts. It has articles. Regards, -- bonadea contributions talk 20:34, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
That someone was born in a particular country does not mean that they are from that country.Foo? What else would it mean? As for the "chief White House Correspondent for Today News Africa" bit – that's pure promotional fluff, you know. Please keep in mind that "Every statement that you make about the journalist in question should be backed up by a reliable source", and the only source for that is Fox News which, as you hopefully know by now, is borderline reliable. (Today News Africa is not a reliable source for that kind of statement, which should be obvious.) A title like "chief White House correspondent" doesn't mean much if there's no other staff on the news agency.
I haven't edited Wikipedia in ages, but I was so taken aback by part of the exchange on this talk page that I had to comment.
By all means, block the pie guy and remove the unreliable sources. However, pie guy is absolutely right about one thing: the fact that Ateba was born in Camaroon does not support the article's claim that he is Camaroonian. To be Camaroonian, he would need to be a Camcaroonian citizen. The fact that he was born there doesn't mean that he is a citizen. I was born in South Korea but was adopted by Americans as a baby and don't have Korean citizenship.
I will be bold and remove the claim that he is Camaroonian. Phatius McBluff ( talk) 14:29, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
The Daily Beast isn't a reliable source, especially with BLPs. Notice that that blog is being used to primarily add negative or pejorative information to this article. I'll give it a day or so for comment before I remove it. 152.130.15.3 ( talk) 15:55, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
And Fox News is questionable for anything about US politics. I have substituted the last addition but there still are a few more Fox citations left. — Paleo Neonate – 03:29, 15 July 2023 (UTC)