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This article appears to be relaying on primary sources. Based on the tone and the existing sources the non english sources are suspected being non WP:RS (non reliable sources for wikipedia). Without good sources this article may be subject to speedy deleation. Please correct the existing citations errors and provide impartial sources. Also this article appears to present just one point of view. BO; talk 23:02, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I'll try to give a short explanation of some edits that might be contentious in the last one.
"As escalation continued the Zagreb government deployed HV units and Ministry of the Interior (MUP RH) special forces into Bosnia and Herzegovina."
This was not in the cited source, I instead added "...Bosnian Croat forces backed by the Croatian Army..." from Ramet 2010, p. 264.
"Boban had abandoned a Bosnian government alliance and ceased all hostilities with Karadžić"
But conflicts between the HVO and VRS didn't stop. According to CIA 2002, vol. 2, p. 317: "In fact, Croat attacks on the corridor, clearly with HV assistance or involvement, increased after Bosanski Brod's fall. Bosnian Croat troops -again apparently with HV support- also were able to repel a VRS offensive against Orasje in November." There were instances of cooperation, but as Christia (p. 160) pointed out, there were examples of both Serb-Bosniak and Serb-Croat "alliances", and in Mostar and Herzegovina's case it was the first one (p. 166). Further, the Graz agreement is already in the April 1992 – June 1992 siege section and it was on 6 May, not 9 May. I'm not sure about Manolić's participation so I would just leave "Bosnian Croat and Bosnian Serb leadership". The HVO was also multiethnic at the time, not just ARBiH, so I left out that word. The last one is Milivoj Gagro's quote. I never even heard of him prior to this and I think that adding blame to an entire regional group is not the direction we should take. I'm sure that similar quotes could be found for anyone. Tzowu ( talk) 18:30, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
"Several months after the Washington Agreement the Croatian government continued to pursue irredentism. Ivić Pašalić, who was a key adviser to Tuđman and acted on his behalf, led a three-man delegation near Banja Luka to discuss with Karadžić the division of Bosnia and Herzegovina. In the meeting Karadžić proposed territory and population exchanges, something Tuđman was very interested in."
Ramet (2010 book) on page 265 says "according to a report published in the Rijeka daily Novi list somewhat later" (published in 3 April 2002). So the source for this is a column by Jelena Lovrić in Novi list newspapers. Lovrić said in that article that she got the information "from a senior representative of the Tuđman government, who wanted to stay anonymous". I don't find this reliable, there's not even a date of the alleged meeting. But even if the meeting or meetings did happen, there were dozens, hundreds of those kind of meetings. For every single one of them someone could claim that it involved some population transfers, partition plans and whatever. Especially in the time when the "moderates" led by Sanader came to power in HDZ. Tzowu ( talk) 21:03, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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This article appears to be relaying on primary sources. Based on the tone and the existing sources the non english sources are suspected being non WP:RS (non reliable sources for wikipedia). Without good sources this article may be subject to speedy deleation. Please correct the existing citations errors and provide impartial sources. Also this article appears to present just one point of view. BO; talk 23:02, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I'll try to give a short explanation of some edits that might be contentious in the last one.
"As escalation continued the Zagreb government deployed HV units and Ministry of the Interior (MUP RH) special forces into Bosnia and Herzegovina."
This was not in the cited source, I instead added "...Bosnian Croat forces backed by the Croatian Army..." from Ramet 2010, p. 264.
"Boban had abandoned a Bosnian government alliance and ceased all hostilities with Karadžić"
But conflicts between the HVO and VRS didn't stop. According to CIA 2002, vol. 2, p. 317: "In fact, Croat attacks on the corridor, clearly with HV assistance or involvement, increased after Bosanski Brod's fall. Bosnian Croat troops -again apparently with HV support- also were able to repel a VRS offensive against Orasje in November." There were instances of cooperation, but as Christia (p. 160) pointed out, there were examples of both Serb-Bosniak and Serb-Croat "alliances", and in Mostar and Herzegovina's case it was the first one (p. 166). Further, the Graz agreement is already in the April 1992 – June 1992 siege section and it was on 6 May, not 9 May. I'm not sure about Manolić's participation so I would just leave "Bosnian Croat and Bosnian Serb leadership". The HVO was also multiethnic at the time, not just ARBiH, so I left out that word. The last one is Milivoj Gagro's quote. I never even heard of him prior to this and I think that adding blame to an entire regional group is not the direction we should take. I'm sure that similar quotes could be found for anyone. Tzowu ( talk) 18:30, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
"Several months after the Washington Agreement the Croatian government continued to pursue irredentism. Ivić Pašalić, who was a key adviser to Tuđman and acted on his behalf, led a three-man delegation near Banja Luka to discuss with Karadžić the division of Bosnia and Herzegovina. In the meeting Karadžić proposed territory and population exchanges, something Tuđman was very interested in."
Ramet (2010 book) on page 265 says "according to a report published in the Rijeka daily Novi list somewhat later" (published in 3 April 2002). So the source for this is a column by Jelena Lovrić in Novi list newspapers. Lovrić said in that article that she got the information "from a senior representative of the Tuđman government, who wanted to stay anonymous". I don't find this reliable, there's not even a date of the alleged meeting. But even if the meeting or meetings did happen, there were dozens, hundreds of those kind of meetings. For every single one of them someone could claim that it involved some population transfers, partition plans and whatever. Especially in the time when the "moderates" led by Sanader came to power in HDZ. Tzowu ( talk) 21:03, 18 February 2016 (UTC)