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Removed Scrooge McDuck from the list of men known for their sideburns for the following reasons:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by AGorilla ( talk • contribs) 02:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm very surprised nothing was mentioned of Luke Perry or Jason Priestley who popularized sideburns in the early 90's on Beverly Hills 90210 after they had become unfashionable in the mid to late 80's. I'll look for sources on that before I edit the article though. Yankees76 21:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I really don't think the prevalence of sideburns throughout the world is due to the popularity of the character Wolverine.
71.246.242.50 13:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
delete Ian J., Modern Man. this is shameless self promotion
I disagree. There is nothing wrong with shameless self promotion. -- 209.244.30.237 ( talk) 22:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
To cut down on self-promotion (or other promotion of non-notables) I have added the following "invisible" editorial guideline:
-- Fyslee/ talk 06:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
To make the article more interesting, we could start a gallery with images (from those with articles here) showing some of the various styles and some of the more spectacular ones. It should be limited to maybe 8-16 (divisible by four, since that's the breadth of the gallery). I'll make a start and others can add to it. -- Fyslee/ talk 06:58, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
When did this inversion occur? Beefart is sixty years old and as a boy in the 1950's it was already sideburns. Any documentation?
..are not like sideburns,mutton chops are long hair tht goes down over thy cheeks,unlike sideburns which grow out of thy cheeks Luke12345abcd ( talk) 16:45, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Someone with the time and inclination might rearrange the gallery in chronological order, say by date of birth.-- Wetman ( talk) 10:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
We are having a discussion at work about the specifics of the term sideburns. If a person has no hair anywhere on the the top or back of their head, but only has hair that connects under the nose and extends to touch the top of the ears is that considered to be a long moustache or sideburns? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.89.177.187 ( talk) 19:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
The author has some pretty rockin sideburns. I think a pic of him should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.204.60.34 ( talk) 18:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
The second link is dead... And by dead I mean it leads to a page containing nothing about sideburns, but loads of pop-ups and redirects to useless fraudulent crap instead :) Wouldn't it make sense to remove that link then? Someone unimaginative ( talk) 19:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
So what were they called before Burnside's time? 86.143.69.89 ( talk) 12:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
I have heard, just by word of mouth from various old,wise and respected people that the word "sideburns" did not originate from general Burnside, if anything, the other way about. That side burns refer to the hunting classes-the rich English and European landowners who would shoot for sport, as well as often being involved in military service, and is in reference to the old matchlock, wheellock and flintlock mechanisms on the sides of rifles or muskets. As the spark ignited the gunpowder in the pan and exploded, often the sparks would flare out and sometimes back, to burn against the side of the face of the shooter, and could leave a scar. Quite often these wealthy men, after a military career would hunt on each others estates as a gentry pass time, and the facial scars would add up. Hair was grown both to cover up the scarring, and also to protect their faces from the sparks when firing the musket, held up to the sides of their face (singeing the facial hair, but not the skin). General Burnside's name may have been taken from a landed gentry or military ancestry which were noted for the burns on the sides of their faces. European surnames often have their origins in either the family trade or distinguishing features of the ancestry. I thought this explanation was well known and rivalled the General burnside explanation but have only heard it via word of mouth, I don't see much talk of it on the internet. Has anyone else heard this theory? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finnmakool ( talk • contribs) 10:34, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, the burn from the flintlock mechanism, and the growth of the sideburn to prevent this is valid. I recently was at Fort George in Scotland which was built in the late 1700s and is still almost perfectly preserved having never seen a battle. There was a presentation by a man dressed as a redcoat who spoke about the life of an infantryman during that period. He explained that the sideburn was grown to prevent the face from being burnt and instead only the hair would be singed. Sometimes they were actually only grown on the firing side of the face. He even mentioned that the Americans like to claim it is from a General Burnside, but this is not accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbledzepp ( talk • contribs) 06:46, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
When you have long hair hanging in front of your ears, but your jawline is shaven, what is that hair called? Does it still count as sideburns? I thought sideburns was what this article describes, jawline hair from ear to chin. Kinda like the difference between a fu manchu moustache, and a biker/Hulk Hogan horseshoe. Whether it's hanging or attached along a strip. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.55.176.90 ( talk) 13:52, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Most of the pictures used in the article are not the best examples of the sideburn look. You could just as well use the main picture, for instance, as an example of a moustache as much as sideburns. The main pic at least should show a clear-cut (no pun intended) example of sideburns with no attachment to a beard or moustache. Someone here mentioned Isaac Asimov (in his older days), which would be a great example of sideburns -- and just sideburns. Alialiac ( talk) 17:49, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Removed Scrooge McDuck from the list of men known for their sideburns for the following reasons:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by AGorilla ( talk • contribs) 02:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm very surprised nothing was mentioned of Luke Perry or Jason Priestley who popularized sideburns in the early 90's on Beverly Hills 90210 after they had become unfashionable in the mid to late 80's. I'll look for sources on that before I edit the article though. Yankees76 21:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I really don't think the prevalence of sideburns throughout the world is due to the popularity of the character Wolverine.
71.246.242.50 13:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
delete Ian J., Modern Man. this is shameless self promotion
I disagree. There is nothing wrong with shameless self promotion. -- 209.244.30.237 ( talk) 22:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
To cut down on self-promotion (or other promotion of non-notables) I have added the following "invisible" editorial guideline:
-- Fyslee/ talk 06:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
To make the article more interesting, we could start a gallery with images (from those with articles here) showing some of the various styles and some of the more spectacular ones. It should be limited to maybe 8-16 (divisible by four, since that's the breadth of the gallery). I'll make a start and others can add to it. -- Fyslee/ talk 06:58, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
When did this inversion occur? Beefart is sixty years old and as a boy in the 1950's it was already sideburns. Any documentation?
..are not like sideburns,mutton chops are long hair tht goes down over thy cheeks,unlike sideburns which grow out of thy cheeks Luke12345abcd ( talk) 16:45, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Someone with the time and inclination might rearrange the gallery in chronological order, say by date of birth.-- Wetman ( talk) 10:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
We are having a discussion at work about the specifics of the term sideburns. If a person has no hair anywhere on the the top or back of their head, but only has hair that connects under the nose and extends to touch the top of the ears is that considered to be a long moustache or sideburns? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.89.177.187 ( talk) 19:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
The author has some pretty rockin sideburns. I think a pic of him should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.204.60.34 ( talk) 18:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
The second link is dead... And by dead I mean it leads to a page containing nothing about sideburns, but loads of pop-ups and redirects to useless fraudulent crap instead :) Wouldn't it make sense to remove that link then? Someone unimaginative ( talk) 19:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
So what were they called before Burnside's time? 86.143.69.89 ( talk) 12:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
I have heard, just by word of mouth from various old,wise and respected people that the word "sideburns" did not originate from general Burnside, if anything, the other way about. That side burns refer to the hunting classes-the rich English and European landowners who would shoot for sport, as well as often being involved in military service, and is in reference to the old matchlock, wheellock and flintlock mechanisms on the sides of rifles or muskets. As the spark ignited the gunpowder in the pan and exploded, often the sparks would flare out and sometimes back, to burn against the side of the face of the shooter, and could leave a scar. Quite often these wealthy men, after a military career would hunt on each others estates as a gentry pass time, and the facial scars would add up. Hair was grown both to cover up the scarring, and also to protect their faces from the sparks when firing the musket, held up to the sides of their face (singeing the facial hair, but not the skin). General Burnside's name may have been taken from a landed gentry or military ancestry which were noted for the burns on the sides of their faces. European surnames often have their origins in either the family trade or distinguishing features of the ancestry. I thought this explanation was well known and rivalled the General burnside explanation but have only heard it via word of mouth, I don't see much talk of it on the internet. Has anyone else heard this theory? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finnmakool ( talk • contribs) 10:34, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, the burn from the flintlock mechanism, and the growth of the sideburn to prevent this is valid. I recently was at Fort George in Scotland which was built in the late 1700s and is still almost perfectly preserved having never seen a battle. There was a presentation by a man dressed as a redcoat who spoke about the life of an infantryman during that period. He explained that the sideburn was grown to prevent the face from being burnt and instead only the hair would be singed. Sometimes they were actually only grown on the firing side of the face. He even mentioned that the Americans like to claim it is from a General Burnside, but this is not accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbledzepp ( talk • contribs) 06:46, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
When you have long hair hanging in front of your ears, but your jawline is shaven, what is that hair called? Does it still count as sideburns? I thought sideburns was what this article describes, jawline hair from ear to chin. Kinda like the difference between a fu manchu moustache, and a biker/Hulk Hogan horseshoe. Whether it's hanging or attached along a strip. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.55.176.90 ( talk) 13:52, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Most of the pictures used in the article are not the best examples of the sideburn look. You could just as well use the main picture, for instance, as an example of a moustache as much as sideburns. The main pic at least should show a clear-cut (no pun intended) example of sideburns with no attachment to a beard or moustache. Someone here mentioned Isaac Asimov (in his older days), which would be a great example of sideburns -- and just sideburns. Alialiac ( talk) 17:49, 19 March 2019 (UTC)