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what does the part about Super Mario Sunshine have anything to do with this song? the phrase mentioned is only somewhat similar to the "she said, she said" lyric. i feel it has no place in the article unless it can be proven otherwise. -- Tainter 20:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
The drumming IS amazing, isn't it? Oudeis23 22:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)Oudeis23
'She said she said' was also featured in the album Lone Star by Lone Star. The album was released in 1976. The band were Welsh/ English and formed in 1975 by guitarist Paul Chapman - ex UFO and Tony Smith, vocalist Kenny Driscoll, drummer Dixie Lee and bassist Pete Hurley.
Bb Mixolydian is a mode of Eb.
"Paul McCartney recalls that the band had a row before the track was recorded,. . ." What does this mean? From the context, is it sayint they had a fight? Yeah, iono. 75.82.100.0 09:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Having a "row" means having a fight in British English. KKSlid3r 02:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Swinterich ( talk) 07:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC))
People have interpreted the opening line ("I know what it's like to be dead") as a clue that Paul McCartney died and was replaced. And according to the "Everyone BUT Paul is Dead" parody theory [1] [2], this line is taken as a clue that Lennon (like all the other Beatles except McCartney) died and was replaced. (Moved from main page by Swinterich ( talk) 07:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC))
This song was covered by the Feelies on their 1986 EP No One Knows, and received lots of college radio attention at that time. Someone should compile a list of cover versions.
It is peculiar that the music section leaves out the most striking thing about the music, which is the shifting time signatures. Elections ( talk) 06:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)elections 7/30/08
We should remove the Hard rock genre because it clearly isn't hard rock! C.Syde ( talk | contribs) 00:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
I've just reinstated the Personnel credits per the source we cite, Ian MacDonald (2005, p. 211). These were changed last October, around the time that user:6witha5wing altered the text under Recording on the point about whether McCartney's bass part was used on the released recording. I don't mean to skip over the issue that EMI records apparently suggest that McCartney must have played the bass, based on the Beatles' usual habit when doing the mixdown/reduction of the rhythm track to free up space for overdubs on the 4-track tape. If anyone thinks that point should be reinstated, then fair enough; personally, I've understood that such thinking had been revised in recent years.
For instance: MacDonald changed his credits between 1997 and 2005 (omitting McCartney altogether, crediting Harrison for the bass part), although I'm not able to see how he's then revised his description of the recording – i.e. on what I imagine would be p. 212 of the '05 edition (I've only got the previous edition). Also, in Revolver: How the Beatles Reimagined Rock 'n' Roll, Robert Rodriguez concedes that many Beatles authors have assumed that McCartney was on bass but he concludes that the stereo mix reveals the band must have strayed from their usual practice for the first reduction mix of "She Said She Said". Here's his rationale which, knowing Rodriguez's books, is actually based on others' findings: here. JG66 ( talk) 12:33, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Mark Lewisohn discovered that the basic track had drums and bass (track 1) and two guitars (track 2), so obviously Paul would've played bass on it. EMI wouldn't have falsified the studio paperwork on purpose. 60.242.108.167 ( talk) 14:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Wow, I am very impressed by the further "fleshing out" of this quaint little story. So many things like this happen in history, and pass away without anyone to recall, but it's SO cool that the strange tale has been preserved! Well Done! Learner001 ( talk) 17:04, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
on my phone (iPhone), under the page title, the word "Tontoly" appears. when i view the same page on my laptop (MacBook), it does not appear. what is "Tontoly", if anything? why the difference between the two device presentations? is this an error? a joke? wmharv - wmharv@yahoo.com - long-time user - new account-holder Wmharv ( talk) 14:39, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
The new Revolver set released today reveals that Paul McCartney is indeed playing. However, actual audio (and the accompanying book) is apparently not good enough a source. BR~enwiki ( talk) 13:23, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Tkbrett (✉) 14:34, 28 October 2022 (UTC)They were recorded as they rehearsed the backing track. Ringo’s drums and Paul playing bass are heard on track one and the guitars of John and George were recorded on track two. The tape box documents three takes having taken place; the third and only complete take being the one on which overdubs were added. Six more takes, however, follow on the reel that were announced as takes seven to nine and 15 to 17. CD Sessions Two Track 17 / LP Sessions Side Four Track 9 is take 15. The introductory speech is taken from before takes two and three, performances that were recorded, presumably, once the tape had been wound back to wipe the previous rehearsals.
[...] (Bit about overdubs, including John & George's vocals, counterpoint guitar melody and some extra Hammond organ notes)
In Many Years from Now, Paul confided that, 'I'm not sure, but I think it was one of the only Beatle records I never played on. I think we had a barney or something and I said, "Oh, fuck you!" and they said, "Well, we'll do it." I think George played bass.' It is pretty certain, however, that Paul is heard on the original rhythm track containing bass and drums. From 1'55" into the song, there are some more bass notes played on the organ after Paul had left the studio.
The disagreement that happened in the dead of night seems to have been about how to resolve differing ideas for the arrangement. A recording sheet in the Abbey Road archive indicates a piano was added to the song at one stage, but no trace of the instrument remains on the tapes.
2601:C2:B00:730:D8EA:35B6:5D9D:5243 ( talk) 17:56, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
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what does the part about Super Mario Sunshine have anything to do with this song? the phrase mentioned is only somewhat similar to the "she said, she said" lyric. i feel it has no place in the article unless it can be proven otherwise. -- Tainter 20:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
The drumming IS amazing, isn't it? Oudeis23 22:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)Oudeis23
'She said she said' was also featured in the album Lone Star by Lone Star. The album was released in 1976. The band were Welsh/ English and formed in 1975 by guitarist Paul Chapman - ex UFO and Tony Smith, vocalist Kenny Driscoll, drummer Dixie Lee and bassist Pete Hurley.
Bb Mixolydian is a mode of Eb.
"Paul McCartney recalls that the band had a row before the track was recorded,. . ." What does this mean? From the context, is it sayint they had a fight? Yeah, iono. 75.82.100.0 09:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Having a "row" means having a fight in British English. KKSlid3r 02:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Swinterich ( talk) 07:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC))
People have interpreted the opening line ("I know what it's like to be dead") as a clue that Paul McCartney died and was replaced. And according to the "Everyone BUT Paul is Dead" parody theory [1] [2], this line is taken as a clue that Lennon (like all the other Beatles except McCartney) died and was replaced. (Moved from main page by Swinterich ( talk) 07:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC))
This song was covered by the Feelies on their 1986 EP No One Knows, and received lots of college radio attention at that time. Someone should compile a list of cover versions.
It is peculiar that the music section leaves out the most striking thing about the music, which is the shifting time signatures. Elections ( talk) 06:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)elections 7/30/08
We should remove the Hard rock genre because it clearly isn't hard rock! C.Syde ( talk | contribs) 00:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
I've just reinstated the Personnel credits per the source we cite, Ian MacDonald (2005, p. 211). These were changed last October, around the time that user:6witha5wing altered the text under Recording on the point about whether McCartney's bass part was used on the released recording. I don't mean to skip over the issue that EMI records apparently suggest that McCartney must have played the bass, based on the Beatles' usual habit when doing the mixdown/reduction of the rhythm track to free up space for overdubs on the 4-track tape. If anyone thinks that point should be reinstated, then fair enough; personally, I've understood that such thinking had been revised in recent years.
For instance: MacDonald changed his credits between 1997 and 2005 (omitting McCartney altogether, crediting Harrison for the bass part), although I'm not able to see how he's then revised his description of the recording – i.e. on what I imagine would be p. 212 of the '05 edition (I've only got the previous edition). Also, in Revolver: How the Beatles Reimagined Rock 'n' Roll, Robert Rodriguez concedes that many Beatles authors have assumed that McCartney was on bass but he concludes that the stereo mix reveals the band must have strayed from their usual practice for the first reduction mix of "She Said She Said". Here's his rationale which, knowing Rodriguez's books, is actually based on others' findings: here. JG66 ( talk) 12:33, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Mark Lewisohn discovered that the basic track had drums and bass (track 1) and two guitars (track 2), so obviously Paul would've played bass on it. EMI wouldn't have falsified the studio paperwork on purpose. 60.242.108.167 ( talk) 14:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Wow, I am very impressed by the further "fleshing out" of this quaint little story. So many things like this happen in history, and pass away without anyone to recall, but it's SO cool that the strange tale has been preserved! Well Done! Learner001 ( talk) 17:04, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
on my phone (iPhone), under the page title, the word "Tontoly" appears. when i view the same page on my laptop (MacBook), it does not appear. what is "Tontoly", if anything? why the difference between the two device presentations? is this an error? a joke? wmharv - wmharv@yahoo.com - long-time user - new account-holder Wmharv ( talk) 14:39, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
The new Revolver set released today reveals that Paul McCartney is indeed playing. However, actual audio (and the accompanying book) is apparently not good enough a source. BR~enwiki ( talk) 13:23, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Tkbrett (✉) 14:34, 28 October 2022 (UTC)They were recorded as they rehearsed the backing track. Ringo’s drums and Paul playing bass are heard on track one and the guitars of John and George were recorded on track two. The tape box documents three takes having taken place; the third and only complete take being the one on which overdubs were added. Six more takes, however, follow on the reel that were announced as takes seven to nine and 15 to 17. CD Sessions Two Track 17 / LP Sessions Side Four Track 9 is take 15. The introductory speech is taken from before takes two and three, performances that were recorded, presumably, once the tape had been wound back to wipe the previous rehearsals.
[...] (Bit about overdubs, including John & George's vocals, counterpoint guitar melody and some extra Hammond organ notes)
In Many Years from Now, Paul confided that, 'I'm not sure, but I think it was one of the only Beatle records I never played on. I think we had a barney or something and I said, "Oh, fuck you!" and they said, "Well, we'll do it." I think George played bass.' It is pretty certain, however, that Paul is heard on the original rhythm track containing bass and drums. From 1'55" into the song, there are some more bass notes played on the organ after Paul had left the studio.
The disagreement that happened in the dead of night seems to have been about how to resolve differing ideas for the arrangement. A recording sheet in the Abbey Road archive indicates a piano was added to the song at one stage, but no trace of the instrument remains on the tapes.
2601:C2:B00:730:D8EA:35B6:5D9D:5243 ( talk) 17:56, 30 October 2022 (UTC)