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Untitled
Does use of the chorus in this page fall under copyvioing?
Johnleemk |
Talk 11:32, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Since we've only got the chorus, I would probably argue
fair use. I'm no copyright lawyer though.
Isomorphic 01:54, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Ricky Martin - She Bangs - single cover.jpg
Image:Ricky Martin - She Bangs - single cover.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under
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"Channing Tatum is a dancer in the background." - of the video is that ? There's lots of dancers. Is Tatum the only famous one ? --
Beardo (
talk)
19:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)reply
"is a song recorded by Puerto Rican singer" → "is a song by Puerto Rican singer"
With all due respect, this is a preference. There's nothing wrong with the prose right now, actually is preferred by editors since it's been used in all articles I brought to a FA status. — Tom(T2ME)09:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)reply
"for his sixth studio album Sound Loaded (2000)" → "from his sixth studio album, Sound Loaded (2000)"
"influences in which the singer who wants hold" → "influences, while the lyrics see Martin wanting to hold"
Done.
"It was met with positive reviews by music critics noted" → "It received widely positive reviews from
music critics, who often noted" with the appropriate target
But grammatically, "met with positive reviews by music critics noted the similarities" clearly has issues and the target is obviously required, plus "received" should be here and "met with" in the body --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
09:39, 18 June 2020 (UTC)reply
"His rendition was met with unfavorable reactions" → "His cover version received generally unfavorable responses"
Composition and lyrical interpretation
Shouldn't a Background section be above this one, or add background info to the article and combine with this section if there's not enough for its own?
Tomica "Comparable values should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently: patients' ages were five, seven, and thirty-two or ages were 5, 7 and 32, but not ages were five, seven and 32." So in this case, yes. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
07:26, 23 June 2020 (UTC)reply
That's a different situation, where you compare things. Here we don't compare things when talking about charting trajectory. I have done multiple FAs before and actually the preferred way is 1-9 words, above 9 numerical. Please read
this. — Tom(T2ME)08:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)reply
I have read that and totally understand where you are coming from; I once felt that way, but ultimately realised otherwise and see
Talk:Follow God/GA1 to understand what I am talking about since small numbers should not be spelt out in certain cases. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
17:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)reply
"before slowly started declining on it. It stayed" → "before slowly starting to decline on it, though lasted"
"in Spain where it peaked at number two" → "in Spain, peaking at number two"
"it reached number three in Finland" → "while the song reached number three in Finland"
"number nine in Guatemala,[25] number five in Nicaragua,[26] and number one in Uruguay.[27]" → "number nine, five and one in Guatemala, Nicaragua and Uruguay, respectively.[25][26][27]"
"The song also reached number one" → "The song was also a chart topper"
"In the United States, "She Bangs" debuted at number 38" → ""She Bangs" debuted at number 38" since US shows it is the United States
Target to
Billboard Hot 100 should be on the Billboard Hot 100 text instead
Mention the issue date of the debut
"on the chart it reached its peak of" → "on the chart, the track reached its peak of"
"the single has sold over 152,000 digital copies in the country alone" → "the track has sold over 152,000 digital copies in the US"
"It was more successful on the
Hot Latin Songs chart[32] and the
Tropical Songs chart where it reached peaks at number one" → "The track was more successful on the country's
Hot Latin Songs and
Tropical Songs charts, both of which it peaked at number one on,"
[32][33] should both be solely at the end of the sentence
"his fifth number-one song on the former chart" → "his fifth number one song on the former chart"
"It also peaked at number two on the" → "The track further peaked at number two on the US"
Magiciandude I was about to fail this due to it being on hold for over three weeks and because neither of you had responded to my comments from four days ago, but now there has been a response from you and may I ask what took so long? --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
05:35, 5 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Well, you know, life happened. It's not that we are on Wikipedia all the time. Plus, you literally asked us to change nearly every sentence, which frankly, sometimes, I do not agree with some of the prose you are suggesting. So, yes, we will need some more time. — Tom(T2ME)16:50, 5 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Magiciandude and
Tomica, I understand that you may oppose some of the prose I suggested to change because constructive criticism is acceptable and there were many changes suggested by me. However, this article has been left on hold for over two weeks since you asked for "some more time," so I will sadly have to ✗ Fail it. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
10:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Hi, I tried to fix all the mentioned issues, and added some content. I'll be thankful if you check the article once again and tell me to fix the remaining issues that I missed.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk)
14:59, 27 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the
Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed
I will review this since it is the oldest unreviewed songs GAN and I was the reviewer the first time; I do regret somewhat how specific I was during GA reviews back then. --
K. Peake15:22, 5 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Infobox and lead
Why is "Amor" listed before "Por Arriba, Por Abajo" under B-sides in the infobox when the track listing has the opposite order?
"The song is a
dance track, with
Latin music influences, while the lyrics" → "A
dance track with
Latin music influences, its lyrics" but should salsa be mentioned here too?
"a woman and is" → "a woman, and the song is"
"It received widely positive reviews" → "The song received widely positive reviews"
The word Grammy is not needed before nomination when the awards show is mentioned that same sentence
"The song was" → "The former was" to avoid confusion with "Livin' la Vida Loca"
"United Kingdom, and" → "the United Kingdom, and"
"was also recorded under" → "was recorded under"
It needs to be sourced directly in the body that the Spanish language version was the one that charted on the Hot Latin Songs chart, as the article itself says of the song's era "Songs on the chart were not necessarily in Spanish language"
You should mention at least one of the live performances directly before the video info, plus use "the original version" here
"for "She Bangs" was" → "for the song was"
"by several artists including" → "by several artists, including"
""bon-bon shakers"" → ""'bon-bon' shakers"." per the source and add a pipe to the song article instead, as the reference is not directly mentioning but it seems they alluding to it
The third greatest hit ranking can be kept but remove the quote from the background of the list per
WP:UNDUE
Accolades
"concluded by calling the song" → "called the song" because this is the start of his opinion piece
Commercial performance
"It spend 6 weeks" → "It spent 6 weeks"
"copies in the country." → "copies in Australia."
"to ultimately reaching its final peak of number two" → "to number 15, going on to reach its peak of number 2"
"November 4, 2000; similarly to the charts of other nations and" → "November 4, 2000, similarly to the charts of other nations, and"
"on the chart for" → "on the
UK Singles Chart for" with the wikilink
"where it peaked at" → "charts, on which the song peaked at"
"it was certified gold" → "the song was certified gold"
"copies in the country." → "copies in Sweden."
"in the US and it is" → "in the United States and stands as" per
MOS:US
Despite being sourced here, Glenn Monroig, Julia Sierra and Daniel López are not mentioned as songwriters in the infobox for some reason
Charts
Weekly charts
The Nielsen SoundScan chart for Canada actually leads to digital songs, so remove this since it is not notable when the song reached main charts in the country and also take it out of commercial performance
Remove or replace ref 79 since it is unreliable, as looking at the URL cited from 2004 and scrolling through the homepage of current articles shows literally the same author for all of them, plus this looks like a gossip site
Remove ref 111 since AllMusic is not reliable for peaks
آرمین هویدایی You still need to write out the songwriters and producers in the background section per my comment about the lead's content being in the body but otherwise, nice job on implementing the suggestions! --
K. Peake17:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی✓Pass now, I did make a fix where you had not listed the full stage name for the second mention of one of the songwriters. It is a great contrast for me to have gone from the failure of the first review to this one's pass; I'm sure the original nominators will be so proud of you and me somewhat too!!! --
K. Peake20:21, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply
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Untitled
Does use of the chorus in this page fall under copyvioing?
Johnleemk |
Talk 11:32, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Since we've only got the chorus, I would probably argue
fair use. I'm no copyright lawyer though.
Isomorphic 01:54, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Ricky Martin - She Bangs - single cover.jpg
Image:Ricky Martin - She Bangs - single cover.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under
fair use but there is no
explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the
boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with
fair use.
Please go to
the image description page and edit it to include a
fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at
Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on
criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the
Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
"Channing Tatum is a dancer in the background." - of the video is that ? There's lots of dancers. Is Tatum the only famous one ? --
Beardo (
talk)
19:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)reply
"is a song recorded by Puerto Rican singer" → "is a song by Puerto Rican singer"
With all due respect, this is a preference. There's nothing wrong with the prose right now, actually is preferred by editors since it's been used in all articles I brought to a FA status. — Tom(T2ME)09:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)reply
"for his sixth studio album Sound Loaded (2000)" → "from his sixth studio album, Sound Loaded (2000)"
"influences in which the singer who wants hold" → "influences, while the lyrics see Martin wanting to hold"
Done.
"It was met with positive reviews by music critics noted" → "It received widely positive reviews from
music critics, who often noted" with the appropriate target
But grammatically, "met with positive reviews by music critics noted the similarities" clearly has issues and the target is obviously required, plus "received" should be here and "met with" in the body --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
09:39, 18 June 2020 (UTC)reply
"His rendition was met with unfavorable reactions" → "His cover version received generally unfavorable responses"
Composition and lyrical interpretation
Shouldn't a Background section be above this one, or add background info to the article and combine with this section if there's not enough for its own?
Tomica "Comparable values should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently: patients' ages were five, seven, and thirty-two or ages were 5, 7 and 32, but not ages were five, seven and 32." So in this case, yes. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
07:26, 23 June 2020 (UTC)reply
That's a different situation, where you compare things. Here we don't compare things when talking about charting trajectory. I have done multiple FAs before and actually the preferred way is 1-9 words, above 9 numerical. Please read
this. — Tom(T2ME)08:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)reply
I have read that and totally understand where you are coming from; I once felt that way, but ultimately realised otherwise and see
Talk:Follow God/GA1 to understand what I am talking about since small numbers should not be spelt out in certain cases. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
17:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)reply
"before slowly started declining on it. It stayed" → "before slowly starting to decline on it, though lasted"
"in Spain where it peaked at number two" → "in Spain, peaking at number two"
"it reached number three in Finland" → "while the song reached number three in Finland"
"number nine in Guatemala,[25] number five in Nicaragua,[26] and number one in Uruguay.[27]" → "number nine, five and one in Guatemala, Nicaragua and Uruguay, respectively.[25][26][27]"
"The song also reached number one" → "The song was also a chart topper"
"In the United States, "She Bangs" debuted at number 38" → ""She Bangs" debuted at number 38" since US shows it is the United States
Target to
Billboard Hot 100 should be on the Billboard Hot 100 text instead
Mention the issue date of the debut
"on the chart it reached its peak of" → "on the chart, the track reached its peak of"
"the single has sold over 152,000 digital copies in the country alone" → "the track has sold over 152,000 digital copies in the US"
"It was more successful on the
Hot Latin Songs chart[32] and the
Tropical Songs chart where it reached peaks at number one" → "The track was more successful on the country's
Hot Latin Songs and
Tropical Songs charts, both of which it peaked at number one on,"
[32][33] should both be solely at the end of the sentence
"his fifth number-one song on the former chart" → "his fifth number one song on the former chart"
"It also peaked at number two on the" → "The track further peaked at number two on the US"
Magiciandude I was about to fail this due to it being on hold for over three weeks and because neither of you had responded to my comments from four days ago, but now there has been a response from you and may I ask what took so long? --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
05:35, 5 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Well, you know, life happened. It's not that we are on Wikipedia all the time. Plus, you literally asked us to change nearly every sentence, which frankly, sometimes, I do not agree with some of the prose you are suggesting. So, yes, we will need some more time. — Tom(T2ME)16:50, 5 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Magiciandude and
Tomica, I understand that you may oppose some of the prose I suggested to change because constructive criticism is acceptable and there were many changes suggested by me. However, this article has been left on hold for over two weeks since you asked for "some more time," so I will sadly have to ✗ Fail it. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
10:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Hi, I tried to fix all the mentioned issues, and added some content. I'll be thankful if you check the article once again and tell me to fix the remaining issues that I missed.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk)
14:59, 27 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the
Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed
I will review this since it is the oldest unreviewed songs GAN and I was the reviewer the first time; I do regret somewhat how specific I was during GA reviews back then. --
K. Peake15:22, 5 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Infobox and lead
Why is "Amor" listed before "Por Arriba, Por Abajo" under B-sides in the infobox when the track listing has the opposite order?
"The song is a
dance track, with
Latin music influences, while the lyrics" → "A
dance track with
Latin music influences, its lyrics" but should salsa be mentioned here too?
"a woman and is" → "a woman, and the song is"
"It received widely positive reviews" → "The song received widely positive reviews"
The word Grammy is not needed before nomination when the awards show is mentioned that same sentence
"The song was" → "The former was" to avoid confusion with "Livin' la Vida Loca"
"United Kingdom, and" → "the United Kingdom, and"
"was also recorded under" → "was recorded under"
It needs to be sourced directly in the body that the Spanish language version was the one that charted on the Hot Latin Songs chart, as the article itself says of the song's era "Songs on the chart were not necessarily in Spanish language"
You should mention at least one of the live performances directly before the video info, plus use "the original version" here
"for "She Bangs" was" → "for the song was"
"by several artists including" → "by several artists, including"
""bon-bon shakers"" → ""'bon-bon' shakers"." per the source and add a pipe to the song article instead, as the reference is not directly mentioning but it seems they alluding to it
The third greatest hit ranking can be kept but remove the quote from the background of the list per
WP:UNDUE
Accolades
"concluded by calling the song" → "called the song" because this is the start of his opinion piece
Commercial performance
"It spend 6 weeks" → "It spent 6 weeks"
"copies in the country." → "copies in Australia."
"to ultimately reaching its final peak of number two" → "to number 15, going on to reach its peak of number 2"
"November 4, 2000; similarly to the charts of other nations and" → "November 4, 2000, similarly to the charts of other nations, and"
"on the chart for" → "on the
UK Singles Chart for" with the wikilink
"where it peaked at" → "charts, on which the song peaked at"
"it was certified gold" → "the song was certified gold"
"copies in the country." → "copies in Sweden."
"in the US and it is" → "in the United States and stands as" per
MOS:US
Despite being sourced here, Glenn Monroig, Julia Sierra and Daniel López are not mentioned as songwriters in the infobox for some reason
Charts
Weekly charts
The Nielsen SoundScan chart for Canada actually leads to digital songs, so remove this since it is not notable when the song reached main charts in the country and also take it out of commercial performance
Remove or replace ref 79 since it is unreliable, as looking at the URL cited from 2004 and scrolling through the homepage of current articles shows literally the same author for all of them, plus this looks like a gossip site
Remove ref 111 since AllMusic is not reliable for peaks
آرمین هویدایی You still need to write out the songwriters and producers in the background section per my comment about the lead's content being in the body but otherwise, nice job on implementing the suggestions! --
K. Peake17:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی✓Pass now, I did make a fix where you had not listed the full stage name for the second mention of one of the songwriters. It is a great contrast for me to have gone from the failure of the first review to this one's pass; I'm sure the original nominators will be so proud of you and me somewhat too!!! --
K. Peake20:21, 7 April 2021 (UTC)reply