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I was surprised to find we have no article about The North Star (modern newspaper) (not sure that's the best title). Of course, this would be a somewhat challenging article to write from a NPOV, given the strong views and the ongoing emergence of the site and facts about its short history. Has there been any effort to start such an article yet? - Pete Forsyth ( talk) 18:13, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Peteforsyth: I moved the the bits of king's website on the north star page here becasue ti was out of place. But i agree tehre should be a separate page for it the north star (website) maybe? Blindlynx ( talk) 16:20, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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Reference not made to his numerous calls for violence and recent calls for the destruction of churches and Jesus statues. Extremely biased to paint him as a hero with little context to support said bias. Role in initiating riots also not mentioned 71.215.128.35 ( talk) 14:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
It seems appropriate at this moment to remove any mention of Shaun King as a pastor. After his open calling to violently "rip down" religious statues, he would not qualify as a pastor, all of whom are designated teachers of moral compassion and understanding. Calls to violence against any religion is sacrilegious to religion itself. For the sake of accuracy, the "pastor" title needs to be removed.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/23/shaun-kings-calls-to-remove-jesus-statues-lead-to-death-threats/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by MiamiTimmyTurner ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Shaun White has tweeted to smash church windows as Jesus was a white guy. This should be reflected in his Wikipedia profile Kathy1gail ( talk) 00:38, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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Current text reads:
"Although the name of Jeffrey Wayne King appears on King's birth certificate, his mother told him that his actual biological father is a light-skinned black man."
It should read:
"Although the name of Jeffrey Wayne King appears on King's birth certificate, King claims his mother told him that his actual biological father is a light-skinned black man."
That is what the reference document say. 71.120.2.107 ( talk) 18:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
He pocketed $100,000 by telling people to donate to his "climb 7 mountains" scam. He did I trial run in Washington and failed the screening. Went to the emergency room for "exhaustion". Never actually climbed a mountain. Did not return any of the (essentially stolen) money. Also, his biological race is swept under the rug real fast on his wiki. This certainly doesn't appear to be a balanced page. [1]
I have just clarified something about the recent white Jesus claim. I have no intention of getting involved in the barmy world of US politics and social justice activists. Nonetheless, this article does seem to use "conservative" as a pejorative term & it is important to note explicitly that his white Jesus theory is not just disliked by conservative twitterati but is also academically dodgy. (I do wish the demagogic flashpan of inanity that is social media could be put back in the bottle but that bird has flown - mixed metaphor) No need to inform me of the ArbCom sanctions regime - I know of it and in any case see my opening statement here. - Sitush ( talk) 07:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
If he was born and raised in Versailles, why does the "born" thing in the table say he was born in Franklin County? Versailles is in Woodford County.— Preceding unsigned comment added by John K ( talk • contribs) 18:24, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Plenty of public figures with this kind of record end up with a "Controversies" section on Wikipedia and it's interesting that Shaun King has dodged this. There's a vague mentioning of fundraising concerns tucked under a "fundraising" section, but for someone who has lied about rape and is now facing scrutiny over a grift in the fashion industry, it seems "Controversies" is a due section.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.103.119 ( talk) 17:59, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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There are two paragraphs talking about this individual, who seems to be tangentially related to the subject. If there was a separate article on the shooting of Jazmine Barnes, maybe his inclusion would be noteworthy as one of the subjects, but otherwise, mentioning him here in this much detail is WP:COATRACK. His only connection to Shaun King is that he was one of the two suspects King helped apprehend, and of the two, he was not the perpetrator of this particular crime. Including this much detail about King's comments on him, and the circumstances of his suicide seems to insinuate that King was somehow responsible for his death, and that he was an innocent victim of some kind of witchhunt orchestrated by King, which is not the case. 46.97.170.112 ( talk) 13:16, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Bond said Cantrell told him before he died, he was very concerned about the death threats he and his family were receiving because he was thought to be linked to Jazmine's murder.
"that he was an innocent victim of some kind of witchhunt orchestrated by King" - That _IS_ the case.- Is it? That is a serious accusation, and needs more than two local news outlets to determine wether it's WP:DUE, let alone in line with WP:BLP. Especially since the sources only say what Cantrell said, not that his claim is factually correct.
His only involvement in this case was that King incorrectly identified him, and tweeted about him to a million people, resulting in threats against him and his family- that is objectively false and contradicts what's written in the article. King's involvement in this case is helping the authorities apprehend TWO potential suspects. One of the suspects was the culprit. The other turned out to be not guilty of this particular crime. WP:BLP applies to talk pages, and avoid making demonstrably false remarks about BLP subjects should be avoided. 46.97.170.79 ( talk) 10:42, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
...does not erase the fact that he started a witch hunt against someone elseaimed at BLP subjects go against site policy. 46.97.170.79 ( talk) 09:19, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Since NorthBySouthBaranof and Wes sideman have deleted the section Twitter comments on depiction of Jesus placed into the article by 3Kingdoms and later restored by me (with added sources), I am following their advice and taking the disagreement to the Talk page. Having said that, however, I really don't see the issue. King's comments received lots of coverage, and not just by plenty of right-leaning sources but also by centrist and left-leaning sources. Those sources include the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Snopes, TheGrio, The Root and Newsweek. So what's the debate about? Certainly not due weight! Goodtablemanners ( talk) 23:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Question: Should King's tweet regarding depictions of "White Jesus" and the response to tweet be included on his page? 3Kingdoms ( talk) 03:59, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Will someone ten or twenty years from now be confused about how this article is written? In ten or twenty years will this addition still appear relevant? If I am devoting more time to it than other topics in the article, will it appear more relevant than what is already here?
Is there any need to go farther with this? Perhaps someone who knows more than I do about closing these RFC's can do it. Is an administrator required? In any case, I suggest that we restore the small section on King's "White Jesus" tweet and the reaction to it; perhaps with additional sources, although I thought the sourcing it last had was perfectly adequate. Goodtablemanners ( talk) 16:56, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi all, I tried to add the notorious incident of his use of his PAC funding on what was presumably a family pet. It was rolled back by an admin for not needing its own paragraph, so I wanted to inquire on how this should be included in the article. Below was the edit that removed references to deprecated sources and left only the factual, publicly reported campaign information.
In 2022, King used of $40,650 of Grassroots PAC funds to purchase a purebred Mastiff from a breeder in California. [1]
Jovitz ( talk) 15:08, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
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I was surprised to find we have no article about The North Star (modern newspaper) (not sure that's the best title). Of course, this would be a somewhat challenging article to write from a NPOV, given the strong views and the ongoing emergence of the site and facts about its short history. Has there been any effort to start such an article yet? - Pete Forsyth ( talk) 18:13, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Peteforsyth: I moved the the bits of king's website on the north star page here becasue ti was out of place. But i agree tehre should be a separate page for it the north star (website) maybe? Blindlynx ( talk) 16:20, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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Reference not made to his numerous calls for violence and recent calls for the destruction of churches and Jesus statues. Extremely biased to paint him as a hero with little context to support said bias. Role in initiating riots also not mentioned 71.215.128.35 ( talk) 14:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
It seems appropriate at this moment to remove any mention of Shaun King as a pastor. After his open calling to violently "rip down" religious statues, he would not qualify as a pastor, all of whom are designated teachers of moral compassion and understanding. Calls to violence against any religion is sacrilegious to religion itself. For the sake of accuracy, the "pastor" title needs to be removed.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/23/shaun-kings-calls-to-remove-jesus-statues-lead-to-death-threats/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by MiamiTimmyTurner ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Shaun White has tweeted to smash church windows as Jesus was a white guy. This should be reflected in his Wikipedia profile Kathy1gail ( talk) 00:38, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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Current text reads:
"Although the name of Jeffrey Wayne King appears on King's birth certificate, his mother told him that his actual biological father is a light-skinned black man."
It should read:
"Although the name of Jeffrey Wayne King appears on King's birth certificate, King claims his mother told him that his actual biological father is a light-skinned black man."
That is what the reference document say. 71.120.2.107 ( talk) 18:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
He pocketed $100,000 by telling people to donate to his "climb 7 mountains" scam. He did I trial run in Washington and failed the screening. Went to the emergency room for "exhaustion". Never actually climbed a mountain. Did not return any of the (essentially stolen) money. Also, his biological race is swept under the rug real fast on his wiki. This certainly doesn't appear to be a balanced page. [1]
I have just clarified something about the recent white Jesus claim. I have no intention of getting involved in the barmy world of US politics and social justice activists. Nonetheless, this article does seem to use "conservative" as a pejorative term & it is important to note explicitly that his white Jesus theory is not just disliked by conservative twitterati but is also academically dodgy. (I do wish the demagogic flashpan of inanity that is social media could be put back in the bottle but that bird has flown - mixed metaphor) No need to inform me of the ArbCom sanctions regime - I know of it and in any case see my opening statement here. - Sitush ( talk) 07:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
If he was born and raised in Versailles, why does the "born" thing in the table say he was born in Franklin County? Versailles is in Woodford County.— Preceding unsigned comment added by John K ( talk • contribs) 18:24, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Plenty of public figures with this kind of record end up with a "Controversies" section on Wikipedia and it's interesting that Shaun King has dodged this. There's a vague mentioning of fundraising concerns tucked under a "fundraising" section, but for someone who has lied about rape and is now facing scrutiny over a grift in the fashion industry, it seems "Controversies" is a due section.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.103.119 ( talk) 17:59, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
References
There are two paragraphs talking about this individual, who seems to be tangentially related to the subject. If there was a separate article on the shooting of Jazmine Barnes, maybe his inclusion would be noteworthy as one of the subjects, but otherwise, mentioning him here in this much detail is WP:COATRACK. His only connection to Shaun King is that he was one of the two suspects King helped apprehend, and of the two, he was not the perpetrator of this particular crime. Including this much detail about King's comments on him, and the circumstances of his suicide seems to insinuate that King was somehow responsible for his death, and that he was an innocent victim of some kind of witchhunt orchestrated by King, which is not the case. 46.97.170.112 ( talk) 13:16, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Bond said Cantrell told him before he died, he was very concerned about the death threats he and his family were receiving because he was thought to be linked to Jazmine's murder.
"that he was an innocent victim of some kind of witchhunt orchestrated by King" - That _IS_ the case.- Is it? That is a serious accusation, and needs more than two local news outlets to determine wether it's WP:DUE, let alone in line with WP:BLP. Especially since the sources only say what Cantrell said, not that his claim is factually correct.
His only involvement in this case was that King incorrectly identified him, and tweeted about him to a million people, resulting in threats against him and his family- that is objectively false and contradicts what's written in the article. King's involvement in this case is helping the authorities apprehend TWO potential suspects. One of the suspects was the culprit. The other turned out to be not guilty of this particular crime. WP:BLP applies to talk pages, and avoid making demonstrably false remarks about BLP subjects should be avoided. 46.97.170.79 ( talk) 10:42, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
...does not erase the fact that he started a witch hunt against someone elseaimed at BLP subjects go against site policy. 46.97.170.79 ( talk) 09:19, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Since NorthBySouthBaranof and Wes sideman have deleted the section Twitter comments on depiction of Jesus placed into the article by 3Kingdoms and later restored by me (with added sources), I am following their advice and taking the disagreement to the Talk page. Having said that, however, I really don't see the issue. King's comments received lots of coverage, and not just by plenty of right-leaning sources but also by centrist and left-leaning sources. Those sources include the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Snopes, TheGrio, The Root and Newsweek. So what's the debate about? Certainly not due weight! Goodtablemanners ( talk) 23:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Question: Should King's tweet regarding depictions of "White Jesus" and the response to tweet be included on his page? 3Kingdoms ( talk) 03:59, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Will someone ten or twenty years from now be confused about how this article is written? In ten or twenty years will this addition still appear relevant? If I am devoting more time to it than other topics in the article, will it appear more relevant than what is already here?
Is there any need to go farther with this? Perhaps someone who knows more than I do about closing these RFC's can do it. Is an administrator required? In any case, I suggest that we restore the small section on King's "White Jesus" tweet and the reaction to it; perhaps with additional sources, although I thought the sourcing it last had was perfectly adequate. Goodtablemanners ( talk) 16:56, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi all, I tried to add the notorious incident of his use of his PAC funding on what was presumably a family pet. It was rolled back by an admin for not needing its own paragraph, so I wanted to inquire on how this should be included in the article. Below was the edit that removed references to deprecated sources and left only the factual, publicly reported campaign information.
In 2022, King used of $40,650 of Grassroots PAC funds to purchase a purebred Mastiff from a breeder in California. [1]
Jovitz ( talk) 15:08, 24 May 2023 (UTC)