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I reread the excavation report while I was freshening the article and I don't immediately see the temple not being Shara thing, though deities are not my area. I think the "vase" mentioned in the article is the "stone bowl" the excavators mention, though I could be wrong. There are actually two mentions of Shara, both on page 297 of the report. I also didn't see any mention of a "Iluma'tim" in any of the reports. [1] I did look at the M&M book and there was a lot of hand waving. This is not a serious post, more a matter of making a philosophical point. :-) Ploversegg ( talk) 00:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC) Ploversegg ( talk) 00:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Reasonable. I guess what got me was the impressive scale and nature of the temple, especially for its time, and the finds therein seemed out of scale for a "local god" I'd never heard of. By now I've encountered all the big and middling gods and a number of the nobodies, not this one. Maybe they just Really liked their nothing god. :-) Ploversegg ( talk) 14:25, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Cannot read Polish but looking at this further I found suggestions in two papers in [1] that part of the temple was an apartment complex and that some of the "finds" were heirlooms. I slightly softened things in the Tell Agrab article to take the middle ground. Weird that no-one has been back to the site. Maybe it was looted out. I do see that a number of gods were worshiped at the nearby Eshnunna during that period (though I haven't gotten up the list to freshening that article yet. Ploversegg ( talk) 13:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
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I would say that the current thinking is that Gišša is actually Umm al-Aqarib. See the Umma article. Or see "Almamori, Haider Oraibi. “THE EARLY DYNASTIC MONUMENTAL BUILDINGS AT UMM AL-AQARIB.” Iraq, vol. 76, 2014, pp. 149–87". Minor thing but I was poking the Umma article so ... Ploversegg ( talk) 00:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
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I reread the excavation report while I was freshening the article and I don't immediately see the temple not being Shara thing, though deities are not my area. I think the "vase" mentioned in the article is the "stone bowl" the excavators mention, though I could be wrong. There are actually two mentions of Shara, both on page 297 of the report. I also didn't see any mention of a "Iluma'tim" in any of the reports. [1] I did look at the M&M book and there was a lot of hand waving. This is not a serious post, more a matter of making a philosophical point. :-) Ploversegg ( talk) 00:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC) Ploversegg ( talk) 00:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Reasonable. I guess what got me was the impressive scale and nature of the temple, especially for its time, and the finds therein seemed out of scale for a "local god" I'd never heard of. By now I've encountered all the big and middling gods and a number of the nobodies, not this one. Maybe they just Really liked their nothing god. :-) Ploversegg ( talk) 14:25, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Cannot read Polish but looking at this further I found suggestions in two papers in [1] that part of the temple was an apartment complex and that some of the "finds" were heirlooms. I slightly softened things in the Tell Agrab article to take the middle ground. Weird that no-one has been back to the site. Maybe it was looted out. I do see that a number of gods were worshiped at the nearby Eshnunna during that period (though I haven't gotten up the list to freshening that article yet. Ploversegg ( talk) 13:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
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I would say that the current thinking is that Gišša is actually Umm al-Aqarib. See the Umma article. Or see "Almamori, Haider Oraibi. “THE EARLY DYNASTIC MONUMENTAL BUILDINGS AT UMM AL-AQARIB.” Iraq, vol. 76, 2014, pp. 149–87". Minor thing but I was poking the Umma article so ... Ploversegg ( talk) 00:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)