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This seems like an absurd title for a redirect to this article. Does anyone know if this refers to something in particular? If not, I'm going to WP:RfD it. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 10:43, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
The Anome, regarding this and this, Mayo Clinic and mdedge.com are not ideal sources to use for medical topics; see the the archived discussions on Mayo Clinic at Wikipedia talk:Identifying reliable sources (medicine), including Wikipedia talk:Identifying reliable sources (medicine)/Archive 10#Mayo: how did this happen ?. Furthermore, "sexual addiction" is the WP:Common name for this topic. If we are going with a medical name per WP:NCMED, it's still the case that, per this 2017 "Routledge International Handbook of Sexual Addiction" source and sources like it, "sexual addiction" is the most common name and that the concept is not defined consistently in the literature. I've requested that your move be undone. I will alert WP:Med to this matter. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 01:51, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Try these:
Compulsive sexual behavior, otherwise known as sexual addiction, is an emerging psychiatric disorder that has significant medical and psychiatric consequences
Compulsive sexual behavior (CSB), also known as sex addiction, hypersexuality, excessive sexuality, or problematic sexual behavior, is characterized by repetitive and intense preoccupations with sexual fantasies, urges, and behaviors that are distressing to the individual and/or result in psychosocial impairment
-- The Anome ( talk) 07:48, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
This article was a very interesting read. Frankly, I’ve had some pretty major qualms with the DSM-5 and ICD-11 diagnostic categories for drug addictions for a while; but, the focus of each diagnostic manual would seem to explain why the diagnostic criteria are a bit borked/conflated with drug dependence. In any event, that article mentions things about the diagnostic classification of compulsive sexual behavior that should be mentioned in this article; e.g., the ICD-11 working group recommending its inclusion in impulse control disorders, which is a diagnostic category composed of a weird amalgamation of behavioral addictions and others disorders unrelated to addiction.
It mentions other things about compulsive sexual behavior that might be worthwhile to cover as well, but the part about the ICD-11 recommendation is the most notable IMO. I don’t really like writing about the diagnosis of addiction for the aforementioned reason, so if someone else is willing to add that, I’d appreciate it. If not, I’ll probably begrudgingly do it at some point. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 00:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Do you experience strong or intense wanting or craving for X?” and “
Can you stop yourself from engaging in obtaining X once you start and do something else?” (or something equivalent to these) are not considered in a proposed addiction diagnosis (or an established one in the DSM, ICD, etc. for that matter), then said diagnosis is not actually diagnostic of an addiction. Why? The first question asks in plain English whether or not the behavior in question is rewarding and the associated reward has been sensitized (re: amplified incentive salience). The second question asks in plain English whether or not the behavior is compulsive. Together, they ask whether or not a person is compulsively engaging in a rewarding stimulus: the defining characteristic of addiction. I really don’t see why it’s so hard to develop a set of diagnostic criteria centered around those two features; but, I have little to no interest in nosology, so meh. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 00:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Hello, the sub-section referring to ICD in the part talking about "classification" is confusing as it refers to both ICD-10 and ICD-11 as "The most recent version of that document". These statements can not both be true can they? It may be worth clarifying what is meant here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwatts2 ( talk • contribs) 17:34, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
“Historically the term ‘sex addiction’ has been used by white males to absolve themselves from personal and legal responsibility for their behaviors,” one expert said. “It is often used as an excuse to pathologize misogyny.”
— NBC News, 'Sex addiction' isn't an actual disorder, but white men often get excused by using it, experts say
Quoted by Tgeorgescu ( talk) 16:35, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
@
Hotpine: Regarding Apryl Alexander, an associate professor at the University of Denver, provides no primary source information, therefore it cannot be verified
, that's not what
WP:VER means. We do not have to second guess associate professors.
tgeorgescu (
talk)
20:48, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
What are negative effects of sexual addiction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seriousnes ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Can we include dr Hilton here Jm33746 ( talk) 15:53, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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WP:WEIGHT and
WP:FRINGE, require us to provide coverage to views based on their prominence within
reliable sources, and we must reflect the opinion of the scientific community as accurately as possible. For example, if the
APA will include sexual addiction in the
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This seems like an absurd title for a redirect to this article. Does anyone know if this refers to something in particular? If not, I'm going to WP:RfD it. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 10:43, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
The Anome, regarding this and this, Mayo Clinic and mdedge.com are not ideal sources to use for medical topics; see the the archived discussions on Mayo Clinic at Wikipedia talk:Identifying reliable sources (medicine), including Wikipedia talk:Identifying reliable sources (medicine)/Archive 10#Mayo: how did this happen ?. Furthermore, "sexual addiction" is the WP:Common name for this topic. If we are going with a medical name per WP:NCMED, it's still the case that, per this 2017 "Routledge International Handbook of Sexual Addiction" source and sources like it, "sexual addiction" is the most common name and that the concept is not defined consistently in the literature. I've requested that your move be undone. I will alert WP:Med to this matter. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 01:51, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Try these:
Compulsive sexual behavior, otherwise known as sexual addiction, is an emerging psychiatric disorder that has significant medical and psychiatric consequences
Compulsive sexual behavior (CSB), also known as sex addiction, hypersexuality, excessive sexuality, or problematic sexual behavior, is characterized by repetitive and intense preoccupations with sexual fantasies, urges, and behaviors that are distressing to the individual and/or result in psychosocial impairment
-- The Anome ( talk) 07:48, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
This article was a very interesting read. Frankly, I’ve had some pretty major qualms with the DSM-5 and ICD-11 diagnostic categories for drug addictions for a while; but, the focus of each diagnostic manual would seem to explain why the diagnostic criteria are a bit borked/conflated with drug dependence. In any event, that article mentions things about the diagnostic classification of compulsive sexual behavior that should be mentioned in this article; e.g., the ICD-11 working group recommending its inclusion in impulse control disorders, which is a diagnostic category composed of a weird amalgamation of behavioral addictions and others disorders unrelated to addiction.
It mentions other things about compulsive sexual behavior that might be worthwhile to cover as well, but the part about the ICD-11 recommendation is the most notable IMO. I don’t really like writing about the diagnosis of addiction for the aforementioned reason, so if someone else is willing to add that, I’d appreciate it. If not, I’ll probably begrudgingly do it at some point. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 00:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Do you experience strong or intense wanting or craving for X?” and “
Can you stop yourself from engaging in obtaining X once you start and do something else?” (or something equivalent to these) are not considered in a proposed addiction diagnosis (or an established one in the DSM, ICD, etc. for that matter), then said diagnosis is not actually diagnostic of an addiction. Why? The first question asks in plain English whether or not the behavior in question is rewarding and the associated reward has been sensitized (re: amplified incentive salience). The second question asks in plain English whether or not the behavior is compulsive. Together, they ask whether or not a person is compulsively engaging in a rewarding stimulus: the defining characteristic of addiction. I really don’t see why it’s so hard to develop a set of diagnostic criteria centered around those two features; but, I have little to no interest in nosology, so meh. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 00:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Hello, the sub-section referring to ICD in the part talking about "classification" is confusing as it refers to both ICD-10 and ICD-11 as "The most recent version of that document". These statements can not both be true can they? It may be worth clarifying what is meant here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwatts2 ( talk • contribs) 17:34, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
“Historically the term ‘sex addiction’ has been used by white males to absolve themselves from personal and legal responsibility for their behaviors,” one expert said. “It is often used as an excuse to pathologize misogyny.”
— NBC News, 'Sex addiction' isn't an actual disorder, but white men often get excused by using it, experts say
Quoted by Tgeorgescu ( talk) 16:35, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
@
Hotpine: Regarding Apryl Alexander, an associate professor at the University of Denver, provides no primary source information, therefore it cannot be verified
, that's not what
WP:VER means. We do not have to second guess associate professors.
tgeorgescu (
talk)
20:48, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
What are negative effects of sexual addiction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seriousnes ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Can we include dr Hilton here Jm33746 ( talk) 15:53, 8 October 2023 (UTC)