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The trivia section mentions "gun x was used in the film, but it was really gun y" twice and gives two different sets of firearms. Anyone know which is correct?
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21:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
When the fight began York was lying on the ground. But as the entire line of German guns came into the fight, he raised himself to a sitting position so that his gun would have the sweep of all of them.
When the Germans found they could not "get him" with bullets, they tried other tactics.
Off to his left, seven Germans, led by a lieutenant, crept through the bushes. When about twenty yards away, they broke for him with lowered bayonets.
The clip of York's rifle was nearly empty. He dropped it and took his automatic pistol. So calmly was he master of himself and so complete his vision of the situation that he selected as his first mark among the oncoming Germans the one farthest away. He knew he would not miss the form of a man at that distance. He wanted the rear men to fall first so the others would keep coming at him and not stop in panic when they saw their companions falling, and fire a volley at him. He felt that in such a volley his only danger lay. They kept coming, and fell as he shot. The foremost man, and the last to topple, did not get ten yards from where he started. Their bodies formed a line down the hillside.
I undid the edit that removed this section. I think sections like these add to the article and demonstrate how 'well known' the referenced person or media is. If you have a good argument against this, then let's talk it out before we resort to edit wars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.154.123.114 ( talk) 18:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
I searched for sergeant york expecting information on him, not this film. I think "sergeant york" should redirect to Alvin C. York and this page should be titled "sergeant york (film)". It is probable that the vast majority of "sergeant york" searches are, like mine, looking for the man and not the movie. Thoughts?
In.Lumine.Tuo.Videbimus.Lumen ( talk) 20:08, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I question whether Middle Tennessee State University has the ACTUAL rifle used by York in WWI. That rifle was undoubtly turned in when he was discharged from the Army. Allthough issued a Model 1917, York was adament that on the day in question he was using an '03 Springfield as he preferred the front sight on that model as being easier with which to obtain a sight picture. This was confirmed by his sons in an interview with the American Rifleman, a monthly publication of the National Rifle Association. The article appeared in 2010 or 2011. The article stated that some soldiers "traded" their 1917's for '03's by going up to a bunch of 'stacked rifles' while the soldiers who had stacked them were in the mess tent or otherwise occupied and "trading" rifles. It is not known if this was the means by which York could have obtained his '03, but it is one explaination. He may have simply actually traded whth another soldier who wanted a 1917. 70.246.233.111 ( talk) 00:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
In 2006, Professor Tom Nolan of Middle Tennessee State University (Alvin York Project 2006) Phone #615-898-2375, fired the M1917 rifle held by MTSU, examined and saved the empty shell casings. He then went to the battle site and found empty shell casing matching those that he fired from the M1917 rifle held by MTSU. While I have no doubt that York used an M1903 at some point during the war, the archaeological evidence proves that he not only used an M1917 on October 8th, 1918, but the actual M1917 held by MTSU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.22.156.40 ( talk) 19:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved and not moved, respectively. -- BDD ( talk) 18:35, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
– The Academy-award-winning 1941 film is based on the life of Alvin C. York, who was the actual Sergeant York. The biography page about Alvin C. York actually has higher page view counts than the film that was based on his life! (The page counts are 34 thousand for the biography article versus 22 thousand for the film in the last 90 days.) There was also an anti-aircraft tank called the Sergeant York, which was named after Alvin York, and the article on that topic also has substantial page view counts (14 thousand in the last 90 days). Moreover, there is York the explorer, who was posthumously granted the rank of honorary sergeant in the United States Army by Bill Clinton. If there is a primary topic here, it is the man, not the film. BarrelProof ( talk) 01:41, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
*Oppose. The readers who are not satisfied with our article on the film can be handled with a hatnote. None of them are looking for a DAB.
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03:56, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
none whatsoever; research, comments. Ajpajpajp1 ( talk) 23:38, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
...appears in film (uncredited) at 1:58 as one of the soldiers gossiping about York (he's the one with the mustache; the face is impossible to miss.) Ajpajpajp1 ( talk) 21:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
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The trivia section mentions "gun x was used in the film, but it was really gun y" twice and gives two different sets of firearms. Anyone know which is correct?
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User:ACupOfCoffee
@
21:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
When the fight began York was lying on the ground. But as the entire line of German guns came into the fight, he raised himself to a sitting position so that his gun would have the sweep of all of them.
When the Germans found they could not "get him" with bullets, they tried other tactics.
Off to his left, seven Germans, led by a lieutenant, crept through the bushes. When about twenty yards away, they broke for him with lowered bayonets.
The clip of York's rifle was nearly empty. He dropped it and took his automatic pistol. So calmly was he master of himself and so complete his vision of the situation that he selected as his first mark among the oncoming Germans the one farthest away. He knew he would not miss the form of a man at that distance. He wanted the rear men to fall first so the others would keep coming at him and not stop in panic when they saw their companions falling, and fire a volley at him. He felt that in such a volley his only danger lay. They kept coming, and fell as he shot. The foremost man, and the last to topple, did not get ten yards from where he started. Their bodies formed a line down the hillside.
I undid the edit that removed this section. I think sections like these add to the article and demonstrate how 'well known' the referenced person or media is. If you have a good argument against this, then let's talk it out before we resort to edit wars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.154.123.114 ( talk) 18:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
I searched for sergeant york expecting information on him, not this film. I think "sergeant york" should redirect to Alvin C. York and this page should be titled "sergeant york (film)". It is probable that the vast majority of "sergeant york" searches are, like mine, looking for the man and not the movie. Thoughts?
In.Lumine.Tuo.Videbimus.Lumen ( talk) 20:08, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I question whether Middle Tennessee State University has the ACTUAL rifle used by York in WWI. That rifle was undoubtly turned in when he was discharged from the Army. Allthough issued a Model 1917, York was adament that on the day in question he was using an '03 Springfield as he preferred the front sight on that model as being easier with which to obtain a sight picture. This was confirmed by his sons in an interview with the American Rifleman, a monthly publication of the National Rifle Association. The article appeared in 2010 or 2011. The article stated that some soldiers "traded" their 1917's for '03's by going up to a bunch of 'stacked rifles' while the soldiers who had stacked them were in the mess tent or otherwise occupied and "trading" rifles. It is not known if this was the means by which York could have obtained his '03, but it is one explaination. He may have simply actually traded whth another soldier who wanted a 1917. 70.246.233.111 ( talk) 00:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
In 2006, Professor Tom Nolan of Middle Tennessee State University (Alvin York Project 2006) Phone #615-898-2375, fired the M1917 rifle held by MTSU, examined and saved the empty shell casings. He then went to the battle site and found empty shell casing matching those that he fired from the M1917 rifle held by MTSU. While I have no doubt that York used an M1903 at some point during the war, the archaeological evidence proves that he not only used an M1917 on October 8th, 1918, but the actual M1917 held by MTSU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.22.156.40 ( talk) 19:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved and not moved, respectively. -- BDD ( talk) 18:35, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
– The Academy-award-winning 1941 film is based on the life of Alvin C. York, who was the actual Sergeant York. The biography page about Alvin C. York actually has higher page view counts than the film that was based on his life! (The page counts are 34 thousand for the biography article versus 22 thousand for the film in the last 90 days.) There was also an anti-aircraft tank called the Sergeant York, which was named after Alvin York, and the article on that topic also has substantial page view counts (14 thousand in the last 90 days). Moreover, there is York the explorer, who was posthumously granted the rank of honorary sergeant in the United States Army by Bill Clinton. If there is a primary topic here, it is the man, not the film. BarrelProof ( talk) 01:41, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
*Oppose. The readers who are not satisfied with our article on the film can be handled with a hatnote. None of them are looking for a DAB.
Warum? (
talk)
03:56, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
none whatsoever; research, comments. Ajpajpajp1 ( talk) 23:38, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
...appears in film (uncredited) at 1:58 as one of the soldiers gossiping about York (he's the one with the mustache; the face is impossible to miss.) Ajpajpajp1 ( talk) 21:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)