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I don't believe The Sentry should be listed as a "schizophrenic" character. The mental illness has nothing to do with multiple personalities but is a thought disorder. While I wouldn't say that comics should be held to the same diagnostic standards as real actual human beings it does continue a very wrongheaded understanding of a serious mental health issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.205.205.114 ( talk) 05:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
So, should we make a pointer to this character on the Robert Reynolds page? There's already a real person with that name, which is why there is an article in the first place, so I'm not sure if it would be a good idea or not.
I very much doubt sentry is stronger than the hulk. Hulk's bones may be hard but they are definetly not bonded with adamantium. So when sentry breaks the hulk's bones, i doubt that that proves anything.
Well don't you think the Hulk might have been resisting? The Void basically broke every bone in the Hulk's body. I've never seen that done before. The Sentry is at least as strong as the baseline Hulk and maybe even stronger. Lochdale 16:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
If you want a strength for the Sentry, he was given Class 100 strength in the recent Civil War information book. That's pretty much as definitive as it gets for comics characters. (which is to say, sometimes not at all, but that's another matter) FrozenPurpleCube 18:16, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Aint no way Sentry is stronger than the Hulk because the Hulk's strength is unlimited the madder he gets the stronger he gets Sentry's strength does not increase.-- The K.O. King 01:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
In World War Hulk, The Sentry fights him (this is the hulk that has increased his strength hundred-fold etc.) to a standstill. Therefore, it is very reasonable that the Sentry is more powerful than the regular Hulk, and around the same strength of 'War Hulk.' Highcount. 22:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
NO ONE knows the abilities of the sentry. Not even tony stark or the skrulls. Its in the new avengers, forgot what ish.
Read the Link: [1] dead link Paul Jenkins admitted that Sentry was inflenuced by Superman. T-1000 21:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm removing the entire section until such time that it includes citations that support the claims. CovenantD 14:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I read the link for the Sentry as Marvel's Superman and it does not suggest anything that the section says. The interview suggests that the Sentry has about as much in common with Superman as Thor does. Superstrength, flight, invulnerability, loved by the public, those could be used to describe many different superheroes. Perhaps this section is more personal belief than fact.
Ok, here's my reasoning for why I think it's possible the Sentry is controlling the Void power there.
And that's why I think it should at least be mentioned as an "apparently" as well, that's what it looked like to me. I'm not certain of it, so that's why I prefer to keep it apparent or seemingly rather than a direct statement. FrozenPurpleCube 00:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think it should be included, period. It's speculation pure and simple. CovenantD 20:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
One thing I think will help us is to create a section dealing solely with how the connection between Reynolds, the Sentry, and the Void is depicted in various comics. No interpretation, just descriptions of what is shown. -- Chris Griswold 21:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, that would certainly be worth considering. It might even be a good idea to have a seperate article for the Void, though I'm iffy on that. After all, he is an aspect of the Sentry, and I don't think we have enough detail on him to get into it. However, I don't think you should delete the events of issue 7 of the Mini-series. I can understand if you might think it a little lenghty, but you deleted it weeks ago, and I've not seen any effort by you to add it back in. The issue exists. I believe the description I have of the content is accurate. If you've got any objections to that, I'd like to see it. If you merely think it's unimportant, well, I don't disagree that it may never be properly followed up on. But that's from experience with Marvel's occasionally sloppy writing. The No-prize has been around for a while, even without characters who are considered to be as inconsistantly handled as the Sentry has been. Yes, it's possible that the whole comic will be ignored in the future or something, but without a statement as to that from Paul Jenkins, Brian Michael Bendis or somebody else involved in the production of it, I think that would be a bit premature on our parts. So I feel it should stay. If you can write it better, great, let's see it.
As for the fight in NAA, again, I don't see POV or OR problems in the description I've provided of it. I read the issue. That's what I read it as happening. You read the issue, you don't see what I saw. I've explained as best I can why I believe my reading is correct. I haven't seen any explanation from you. I've provided examples of other people whose reading concurs with my own. I haven't seen anybody outright say they agree with you, though I have seen some question as to whether that was the Void, and I have my doubts about it myself. But that's a discussion without enough validation, so we probably shouldn't include that without some sources. FrozenPurpleCube 21:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
On a side note, I just read in a Wizard interview with Brian Michael Bendis (or some Marvel guy anyway, I can't recall which), commentary on the rumours that the Sentry might be Thor. Since he commented on that, should we include it in the article, and if so, where? Perhaps in the Hoax section?
FrozenPurpleCube 16:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
You still need to cite the rumors or they will be removed. CovenantD 16:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Just thought I'd post to this, since it'll help me remember to check which issue of Wizard it was, though if somebody else remembers which one they had with the BMB interview about Marvel's Civil War, that'll be it. FrozenPurpleCube 03:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Checked today, Wizard 178 if you want to look it up. Article New Avengers Disassembled. FrozenPurpleCube 23:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
"The Sentry's powers derive from a serum that moves his molecules an instant ahead of the current timeline, although he also absorbs solar radiation for strength."
???
-- Charlesknight 21:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I think that is referencing either the second mini-series when he entered the Phantom Zone, or the issue of Thunderbolts where they took on the New Avengers. FrozenPurpleCube 03:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I know this is a stupid, nit-picky question, but how does one site a comic with a volume number?
Like for The Sentry -- Is it:
The Sentry vol. 1 #2 (with "vol." all in lower-case)
or
The Sentry Vol. 1 #2 (with a capital "V")
or something completley different?
I just want to know for my sake. Anybody? Bhissong 19:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to all who replied. Bhissong 00:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)bhissong
I have been seeing increasing internet rumors that the Sentry will ultimatly be revealed as the Beyonder. Is anyone aware if this stems from any legitimite citable source, or is it mere conjecture? In short, there seems to be increased speculation that Sentry is not really the Sentry, either by his actions (tearing apart Carnage and vaporizing Creel) and/or by some Marvelesque source (which I am unaware what it might be), the speculation might be benificial to mention in the article (particulary if any sources can be expanded upon). 66.109.248.114
In the second mini-series, it is revealed Robert Reynolds actually turned into the Void after taking the serum. The Sentry is the actual divergent personality. "Robert Reynolds" developed into yet another personality, as The Sentry talked about fooling him and the Void seperately.
I think this article should be renamed Robert Reynolds (comics) as a result. opinions? -- EXV // + @ 16:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
No, no, no, no, no. Regardless of the in-universe specifics, the character is most widely known in the REAL world as The Sentry. That's it, and that's all.
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I believe that the last line of the page should be changed. It should state that Sentry is the most powerful "human" in the marvel universe. Check out the official rating's from marvel.com. Sentry does not even come close to Silver Surfer and other cosmic superheroes. -dub22
The Sentry is the most powerful Human in the marvel universe. Highcount. 22:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Regarding Odinsbeard's edit: Why was it seen as warranted to remove these? The comparison scale is set by Marvel's main editor, the guy ultimately in charge of keeping track of the official power levels. Even if you or I personally disagree with the inane '100 ton' strength listing. How is it against Wikipedia policy? Would it be acceptable to simply reword it to "His strength and invulnerability has officially been listed at the same level as Thor, Wonder Man and Hercules" instead? Dave 11:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
This is a policy that was created well over 2 years ago about the time I started contributing to it. Even if someone isn't aware of the policy, all one has to do is browse the Marvel character articles. Most of the articles involving Marvel characters had OHOTMU stats and power ratings in them. Now, evidently, using OHOTMU stats is somehow a violation of copyright. I don't pretend to understand entirely how. I might be wrong, but I think it has something to do with the fact that those stats are found in certain encylopedic comic books, like the OHOTMU and one shot specials like Civil War: Battle Damage Report. All of the info that's been gathered on the characters has been taken out of regular monthly comic book appearances that they've had over the years. However, OHOTMU stats are found only within certain Marvel publications or within industry trade magazines, like Wizard, but with Marvel's permission. Since Wikipedia doesn't have Marvel's permission, their encouraged use by Wikipedia administration could result in Marvel seeking legal action. I tried a few times to have the policy overturned but I was always severely outvoted. Even if the stats are taken from a website rather than out of the OHOTMU, it's still the same thing since the stats came from the handbook to begin with. I won't say I completely understand the whole copyright issue. If you disagree with it though, I'd bring it up on the project's discussion page. Maybe you'll have better luck than I did. Odin's Beard 22:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
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Wasn't the Void responsible for the murder of a million New Yorkers? (Should be added if he was). Lots42 16:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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It is briefly stated that the Sentry's power caused the world to forget he existed, but was it not also suggested that is power also breached the forth wall causing readership to "forget he existed" prior to his actual first appearance?-- RedKnight ( talk) 23:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
In the powers and abilities section, there are statments such as the Sentry being as powerful as a million exploding suns and being able to stalemate Galactus. The million exploding suns statement is pure hyperbole. That's the equivalent of someone saying that he can punch with enough force equal to 100 H-Bombs. The statment of him being able to stalemate Galactus, is it something that actually happened or is it just a bit of a wisecrack from Spider-Man? If a stalemated fight between the two didn't happen, then it should be taken out because it's not an accurate representation of what the character can do. Any writer can jack up the Sentry's power to a point where he could stalemate or beat Galactus of that's what the writer wanted. But, if it hasn't happened, then the statement should be taken out. Odin's Beard ( talk) 23:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I strongly disagree. Spider-man was making a STATEMENT OF FACT, he was as serious as he could possibly get. This wasn't a "snappy one-liner" and if you think it was, then you satisfy one or both of the following criteria:
1) You didn't read the comic book
2) You don't want to believe that the Sentry can stalemate Galactus
Stating that since the Sentry hasn't shown feats in panels to match facing Galactus is absolutely absurd. Reynolds has stated himself that if he were to cut loose and lose control for even a millisecond, virtually everything would be destroyed. There is no reason to believe that the Sentry would have any reason to hold back while fighting Galactus in open space, where no harm would come to Earth or its inhabitans. Spider-man's assertion is NOT the same as Thing's wise-crack about the Sentry releasing his power of ten million exploding suns. The Thing was just being the Thing, whereas Spider-Man was in a state of reflection, stating facts. If you have an issue with it, you go take it up with Marvel's writers, meanwhile, I'm including that back in the article since it is canon until said otherwise by Marvel, and not some original thinkers on the internet.
-- 74.34.209.213 ( talk) 08:11, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
- "The same guy who once fought Galactus to a standstill -- He knew your name!
- "God, when you were just a kid, The Sentry took out the Menace Master just by staring at him! This guy was everything.
- "You used to idolize him . . . ."
- --Paul Jenkins, The Sentry: Spider-Man (one shot, collected in The Sentry, Vol. 1, trade paperback)
Why are they involved with Norman? ( JoeLoeb ( talk) 02:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC))
Ares simply because he was in the Avengers prior to that and is just making a paycheck for his kid and gets to do what he is supposed to do "War." Sentry because he sees in Osborn a kindred spirit. -- 74.34.209.213 ( talk) 03:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
As a strictly casual fan of comics, I've got a quick question about the Sentry/Void. Is the Void purely mental, or is there an actual physical change that occurs when he 'appears'? If a change does occur, it would be nice to have a "Void" picture for the article, athough I wouldn't have the slightest idea as to where to get one. As it stands, the Void is the only one who doesn't have a picture, which gives me a feeling of lopsidedness when reading the article. Tainted Conformity ( talk) 02:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
This series of posts by Rick Veitch about the Sentry's conception has been getting a lot of attention lately. It is clear Veitch had some role in the creation, or at least in the formulation of the original concept if not necessarily playing a direct role in the character's first Marvel appearances. In a similar vein, Bill Jemas is credited as co-creating Ultimate Spider-Man with Bendis & Bagley despite not playing a direct creative role (writer or illustrator). So, should Veitch be listed as one of the creators of the character? Either way, Veitch's recollections must be included in the article as they represent an interesting look into the heretofore unknown pre-history of the creation of the character. Thoughts? -- Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 16:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I came to the article wondering whether Veitch's contributions (about which I just learned) had been added. I think I'll be bold and put something in. If anyone has a problem with my attempt, feel free to change it (it's the wiki way, after all). — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 23:23, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
If the Sentry is more powerful than Owen Wilson, who's stronger than Luke Wilson, Gene Hackman or Jackie Chan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.217.131 ( talk) 07:21, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
So, these days we have the Void (or pieces of him anyway) around doing things in comics that Sentry himself does not appear in. Is this something that would prompt the creation for an article about the Void only, or would we try to shoehorn that into this article? Arkon ( talk) 22:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I originally added the reference on the main page where Spider-Man is reflecting on The Sentry fighting Galactus to a standstill, and someone decided to add in "with the help of Nate Grey" to that section. I removed this, as it is NOT in line with the comics. Nate Grey, not wanting to deal with The Sentry and knowing that he's not mentally stable, used his telepathy to prey on this fact in the Dark X-Men series to confuse The Sentry into thinking he was an old friend of his that helped him stop Galactus. In turn, The Sentry got confused and ran off to "think about it" or something to that extent. Osborn snidedly retorted that Nate used a lie to confuse The Sentry, to which Nate replied that he was telling the truth. However, here's the problem with accepting that statement as fact.
When Spider-Man reflected on The Sentry fighting off Galactus, the time that that would have taken place would have been WELL before the Age of Apocalypse timeline, which was in turn necessary for Nate Grey to come to our reality. Quite frankly, Nate Grey didn't EXIST when The Sentry supposedly tackled Galactus! Not to mention, Spider-Man only reflected on The Sentry tackling Galactus, and made no mention of Nate Grey. 'Nuff said!
-- Dannov ( talk) 03:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
sounds like original research to me 65.183.214.150 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:25, 16 May 2010 (UTC).
"nuff said" not really, in fact i don't think that the time of his supposed galactus battle was mentioned, nate came to 616 marvel before the sentry story was first published and the time renyolds spent not knowing of his past has no definite beginning and end. also think of the sliding time scale and the fact that in continuity x man probably died about 3 years ago it is not unreasonable at. at least if nate helped him taking on galactus makes more sense considering the nature of his powers. the power of a million suns vs all the energies of a universe dose not add up to much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.183.214.150 ( talk) 03:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
This page makes no mention of the fact that sentry was bested by genis vell, with seemingly little difficulty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.183.214.150 ( talk) 03:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
I haven't really investigated it, but from my readings, it could certainly be a valid claim. So my question: What is it that we want to include, things that are explicitly said, or things that are shown? It's a tough line to draw, as we can say what happened between say, Attuma and Sentry, but we can't really say what was said by Spider-man about Sentry (the Galactus stuff). I hesitate to contribute to this area without a firm direction to go in. Arkon ( talk) 00:02, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Seems every time I blink, Sentry's wife is dying again. What's up with this? Lots42 ( talk) 11:09, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
I don't know who came up with that, but the issue referred - Guardians of the Galaxy v2 #23 does not mention or refer to the Sentry in any way, shape or form. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.195.117.150 ( talk) 16:03, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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I don't believe The Sentry should be listed as a "schizophrenic" character. The mental illness has nothing to do with multiple personalities but is a thought disorder. While I wouldn't say that comics should be held to the same diagnostic standards as real actual human beings it does continue a very wrongheaded understanding of a serious mental health issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.205.205.114 ( talk) 05:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
So, should we make a pointer to this character on the Robert Reynolds page? There's already a real person with that name, which is why there is an article in the first place, so I'm not sure if it would be a good idea or not.
I very much doubt sentry is stronger than the hulk. Hulk's bones may be hard but they are definetly not bonded with adamantium. So when sentry breaks the hulk's bones, i doubt that that proves anything.
Well don't you think the Hulk might have been resisting? The Void basically broke every bone in the Hulk's body. I've never seen that done before. The Sentry is at least as strong as the baseline Hulk and maybe even stronger. Lochdale 16:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
If you want a strength for the Sentry, he was given Class 100 strength in the recent Civil War information book. That's pretty much as definitive as it gets for comics characters. (which is to say, sometimes not at all, but that's another matter) FrozenPurpleCube 18:16, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Aint no way Sentry is stronger than the Hulk because the Hulk's strength is unlimited the madder he gets the stronger he gets Sentry's strength does not increase.-- The K.O. King 01:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
In World War Hulk, The Sentry fights him (this is the hulk that has increased his strength hundred-fold etc.) to a standstill. Therefore, it is very reasonable that the Sentry is more powerful than the regular Hulk, and around the same strength of 'War Hulk.' Highcount. 22:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
NO ONE knows the abilities of the sentry. Not even tony stark or the skrulls. Its in the new avengers, forgot what ish.
Read the Link: [1] dead link Paul Jenkins admitted that Sentry was inflenuced by Superman. T-1000 21:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm removing the entire section until such time that it includes citations that support the claims. CovenantD 14:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I read the link for the Sentry as Marvel's Superman and it does not suggest anything that the section says. The interview suggests that the Sentry has about as much in common with Superman as Thor does. Superstrength, flight, invulnerability, loved by the public, those could be used to describe many different superheroes. Perhaps this section is more personal belief than fact.
Ok, here's my reasoning for why I think it's possible the Sentry is controlling the Void power there.
And that's why I think it should at least be mentioned as an "apparently" as well, that's what it looked like to me. I'm not certain of it, so that's why I prefer to keep it apparent or seemingly rather than a direct statement. FrozenPurpleCube 00:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think it should be included, period. It's speculation pure and simple. CovenantD 20:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
One thing I think will help us is to create a section dealing solely with how the connection between Reynolds, the Sentry, and the Void is depicted in various comics. No interpretation, just descriptions of what is shown. -- Chris Griswold 21:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, that would certainly be worth considering. It might even be a good idea to have a seperate article for the Void, though I'm iffy on that. After all, he is an aspect of the Sentry, and I don't think we have enough detail on him to get into it. However, I don't think you should delete the events of issue 7 of the Mini-series. I can understand if you might think it a little lenghty, but you deleted it weeks ago, and I've not seen any effort by you to add it back in. The issue exists. I believe the description I have of the content is accurate. If you've got any objections to that, I'd like to see it. If you merely think it's unimportant, well, I don't disagree that it may never be properly followed up on. But that's from experience with Marvel's occasionally sloppy writing. The No-prize has been around for a while, even without characters who are considered to be as inconsistantly handled as the Sentry has been. Yes, it's possible that the whole comic will be ignored in the future or something, but without a statement as to that from Paul Jenkins, Brian Michael Bendis or somebody else involved in the production of it, I think that would be a bit premature on our parts. So I feel it should stay. If you can write it better, great, let's see it.
As for the fight in NAA, again, I don't see POV or OR problems in the description I've provided of it. I read the issue. That's what I read it as happening. You read the issue, you don't see what I saw. I've explained as best I can why I believe my reading is correct. I haven't seen any explanation from you. I've provided examples of other people whose reading concurs with my own. I haven't seen anybody outright say they agree with you, though I have seen some question as to whether that was the Void, and I have my doubts about it myself. But that's a discussion without enough validation, so we probably shouldn't include that without some sources. FrozenPurpleCube 21:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
On a side note, I just read in a Wizard interview with Brian Michael Bendis (or some Marvel guy anyway, I can't recall which), commentary on the rumours that the Sentry might be Thor. Since he commented on that, should we include it in the article, and if so, where? Perhaps in the Hoax section?
FrozenPurpleCube 16:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
You still need to cite the rumors or they will be removed. CovenantD 16:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Just thought I'd post to this, since it'll help me remember to check which issue of Wizard it was, though if somebody else remembers which one they had with the BMB interview about Marvel's Civil War, that'll be it. FrozenPurpleCube 03:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Checked today, Wizard 178 if you want to look it up. Article New Avengers Disassembled. FrozenPurpleCube 23:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
"The Sentry's powers derive from a serum that moves his molecules an instant ahead of the current timeline, although he also absorbs solar radiation for strength."
???
-- Charlesknight 21:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I think that is referencing either the second mini-series when he entered the Phantom Zone, or the issue of Thunderbolts where they took on the New Avengers. FrozenPurpleCube 03:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I know this is a stupid, nit-picky question, but how does one site a comic with a volume number?
Like for The Sentry -- Is it:
The Sentry vol. 1 #2 (with "vol." all in lower-case)
or
The Sentry Vol. 1 #2 (with a capital "V")
or something completley different?
I just want to know for my sake. Anybody? Bhissong 19:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to all who replied. Bhissong 00:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)bhissong
I have been seeing increasing internet rumors that the Sentry will ultimatly be revealed as the Beyonder. Is anyone aware if this stems from any legitimite citable source, or is it mere conjecture? In short, there seems to be increased speculation that Sentry is not really the Sentry, either by his actions (tearing apart Carnage and vaporizing Creel) and/or by some Marvelesque source (which I am unaware what it might be), the speculation might be benificial to mention in the article (particulary if any sources can be expanded upon). 66.109.248.114
In the second mini-series, it is revealed Robert Reynolds actually turned into the Void after taking the serum. The Sentry is the actual divergent personality. "Robert Reynolds" developed into yet another personality, as The Sentry talked about fooling him and the Void seperately.
I think this article should be renamed Robert Reynolds (comics) as a result. opinions? -- EXV // + @ 16:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
No, no, no, no, no. Regardless of the in-universe specifics, the character is most widely known in the REAL world as The Sentry. That's it, and that's all.
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I believe that the last line of the page should be changed. It should state that Sentry is the most powerful "human" in the marvel universe. Check out the official rating's from marvel.com. Sentry does not even come close to Silver Surfer and other cosmic superheroes. -dub22
The Sentry is the most powerful Human in the marvel universe. Highcount. 22:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Regarding Odinsbeard's edit: Why was it seen as warranted to remove these? The comparison scale is set by Marvel's main editor, the guy ultimately in charge of keeping track of the official power levels. Even if you or I personally disagree with the inane '100 ton' strength listing. How is it against Wikipedia policy? Would it be acceptable to simply reword it to "His strength and invulnerability has officially been listed at the same level as Thor, Wonder Man and Hercules" instead? Dave 11:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
This is a policy that was created well over 2 years ago about the time I started contributing to it. Even if someone isn't aware of the policy, all one has to do is browse the Marvel character articles. Most of the articles involving Marvel characters had OHOTMU stats and power ratings in them. Now, evidently, using OHOTMU stats is somehow a violation of copyright. I don't pretend to understand entirely how. I might be wrong, but I think it has something to do with the fact that those stats are found in certain encylopedic comic books, like the OHOTMU and one shot specials like Civil War: Battle Damage Report. All of the info that's been gathered on the characters has been taken out of regular monthly comic book appearances that they've had over the years. However, OHOTMU stats are found only within certain Marvel publications or within industry trade magazines, like Wizard, but with Marvel's permission. Since Wikipedia doesn't have Marvel's permission, their encouraged use by Wikipedia administration could result in Marvel seeking legal action. I tried a few times to have the policy overturned but I was always severely outvoted. Even if the stats are taken from a website rather than out of the OHOTMU, it's still the same thing since the stats came from the handbook to begin with. I won't say I completely understand the whole copyright issue. If you disagree with it though, I'd bring it up on the project's discussion page. Maybe you'll have better luck than I did. Odin's Beard 22:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
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Wasn't the Void responsible for the murder of a million New Yorkers? (Should be added if he was). Lots42 16:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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It is briefly stated that the Sentry's power caused the world to forget he existed, but was it not also suggested that is power also breached the forth wall causing readership to "forget he existed" prior to his actual first appearance?-- RedKnight ( talk) 23:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
In the powers and abilities section, there are statments such as the Sentry being as powerful as a million exploding suns and being able to stalemate Galactus. The million exploding suns statement is pure hyperbole. That's the equivalent of someone saying that he can punch with enough force equal to 100 H-Bombs. The statment of him being able to stalemate Galactus, is it something that actually happened or is it just a bit of a wisecrack from Spider-Man? If a stalemated fight between the two didn't happen, then it should be taken out because it's not an accurate representation of what the character can do. Any writer can jack up the Sentry's power to a point where he could stalemate or beat Galactus of that's what the writer wanted. But, if it hasn't happened, then the statement should be taken out. Odin's Beard ( talk) 23:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I strongly disagree. Spider-man was making a STATEMENT OF FACT, he was as serious as he could possibly get. This wasn't a "snappy one-liner" and if you think it was, then you satisfy one or both of the following criteria:
1) You didn't read the comic book
2) You don't want to believe that the Sentry can stalemate Galactus
Stating that since the Sentry hasn't shown feats in panels to match facing Galactus is absolutely absurd. Reynolds has stated himself that if he were to cut loose and lose control for even a millisecond, virtually everything would be destroyed. There is no reason to believe that the Sentry would have any reason to hold back while fighting Galactus in open space, where no harm would come to Earth or its inhabitans. Spider-man's assertion is NOT the same as Thing's wise-crack about the Sentry releasing his power of ten million exploding suns. The Thing was just being the Thing, whereas Spider-Man was in a state of reflection, stating facts. If you have an issue with it, you go take it up with Marvel's writers, meanwhile, I'm including that back in the article since it is canon until said otherwise by Marvel, and not some original thinkers on the internet.
-- 74.34.209.213 ( talk) 08:11, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
- "The same guy who once fought Galactus to a standstill -- He knew your name!
- "God, when you were just a kid, The Sentry took out the Menace Master just by staring at him! This guy was everything.
- "You used to idolize him . . . ."
- --Paul Jenkins, The Sentry: Spider-Man (one shot, collected in The Sentry, Vol. 1, trade paperback)
Why are they involved with Norman? ( JoeLoeb ( talk) 02:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC))
Ares simply because he was in the Avengers prior to that and is just making a paycheck for his kid and gets to do what he is supposed to do "War." Sentry because he sees in Osborn a kindred spirit. -- 74.34.209.213 ( talk) 03:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
As a strictly casual fan of comics, I've got a quick question about the Sentry/Void. Is the Void purely mental, or is there an actual physical change that occurs when he 'appears'? If a change does occur, it would be nice to have a "Void" picture for the article, athough I wouldn't have the slightest idea as to where to get one. As it stands, the Void is the only one who doesn't have a picture, which gives me a feeling of lopsidedness when reading the article. Tainted Conformity ( talk) 02:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
This series of posts by Rick Veitch about the Sentry's conception has been getting a lot of attention lately. It is clear Veitch had some role in the creation, or at least in the formulation of the original concept if not necessarily playing a direct role in the character's first Marvel appearances. In a similar vein, Bill Jemas is credited as co-creating Ultimate Spider-Man with Bendis & Bagley despite not playing a direct creative role (writer or illustrator). So, should Veitch be listed as one of the creators of the character? Either way, Veitch's recollections must be included in the article as they represent an interesting look into the heretofore unknown pre-history of the creation of the character. Thoughts? -- Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 16:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I came to the article wondering whether Veitch's contributions (about which I just learned) had been added. I think I'll be bold and put something in. If anyone has a problem with my attempt, feel free to change it (it's the wiki way, after all). — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 23:23, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
If the Sentry is more powerful than Owen Wilson, who's stronger than Luke Wilson, Gene Hackman or Jackie Chan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.217.131 ( talk) 07:21, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
So, these days we have the Void (or pieces of him anyway) around doing things in comics that Sentry himself does not appear in. Is this something that would prompt the creation for an article about the Void only, or would we try to shoehorn that into this article? Arkon ( talk) 22:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I originally added the reference on the main page where Spider-Man is reflecting on The Sentry fighting Galactus to a standstill, and someone decided to add in "with the help of Nate Grey" to that section. I removed this, as it is NOT in line with the comics. Nate Grey, not wanting to deal with The Sentry and knowing that he's not mentally stable, used his telepathy to prey on this fact in the Dark X-Men series to confuse The Sentry into thinking he was an old friend of his that helped him stop Galactus. In turn, The Sentry got confused and ran off to "think about it" or something to that extent. Osborn snidedly retorted that Nate used a lie to confuse The Sentry, to which Nate replied that he was telling the truth. However, here's the problem with accepting that statement as fact.
When Spider-Man reflected on The Sentry fighting off Galactus, the time that that would have taken place would have been WELL before the Age of Apocalypse timeline, which was in turn necessary for Nate Grey to come to our reality. Quite frankly, Nate Grey didn't EXIST when The Sentry supposedly tackled Galactus! Not to mention, Spider-Man only reflected on The Sentry tackling Galactus, and made no mention of Nate Grey. 'Nuff said!
-- Dannov ( talk) 03:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
sounds like original research to me 65.183.214.150 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:25, 16 May 2010 (UTC).
"nuff said" not really, in fact i don't think that the time of his supposed galactus battle was mentioned, nate came to 616 marvel before the sentry story was first published and the time renyolds spent not knowing of his past has no definite beginning and end. also think of the sliding time scale and the fact that in continuity x man probably died about 3 years ago it is not unreasonable at. at least if nate helped him taking on galactus makes more sense considering the nature of his powers. the power of a million suns vs all the energies of a universe dose not add up to much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.183.214.150 ( talk) 03:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
This page makes no mention of the fact that sentry was bested by genis vell, with seemingly little difficulty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.183.214.150 ( talk) 03:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
I haven't really investigated it, but from my readings, it could certainly be a valid claim. So my question: What is it that we want to include, things that are explicitly said, or things that are shown? It's a tough line to draw, as we can say what happened between say, Attuma and Sentry, but we can't really say what was said by Spider-man about Sentry (the Galactus stuff). I hesitate to contribute to this area without a firm direction to go in. Arkon ( talk) 00:02, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Seems every time I blink, Sentry's wife is dying again. What's up with this? Lots42 ( talk) 11:09, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
I don't know who came up with that, but the issue referred - Guardians of the Galaxy v2 #23 does not mention or refer to the Sentry in any way, shape or form. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.195.117.150 ( talk) 16:03, 26 July 2012 (UTC)