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Is there a Cathedral out at sea or is this urban legend? I know the Cathedral used to be at Norton in the 11th Century, but have not heard any fact surrounding the sea based cathedral, any ideas?
Norton (The Mount; Pagham Harbour) is listed as "Earthwork remains of an C11 ringwork castle; traces of possible Iron Age occupation were found; Neolithic scrapers and other worked flints were found during excavations. Roman tile and pottery may indicate the site of a villa. Had been identified as an Elizabethan battery. Excavated in 1911, 1965 and 1980." [1]
Graldensblud 23:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Your article refers to inundation and also speaks of erosion. Apparently there are underwater ruins, too? It would be nice if you would tell us the story! I got here through the article on Ys that mentions the fact that many of the lands around the English Channel have been inundated, so I am looking for info on that. Was it flooded, or eroded? When did this happen? What do the underwater ruins, if any, consist of?
Amity150 06:16, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't have specifics, but i read not long ago of an early mediaeval church being found off the south coast of hayling island, where the only documentary reference to a church in such a position was to it standing in the middle of the island. This was claimed at the time i read it to be representative of the sort of sea level change we know has to have occurred re the wading across the solent the romans undertook. 82.10.108.49 ( talk) 10:27, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Southern Britain is still slowly sinking after being lifted during the last ice age, in response to northern Britain being pressed down by the huge weight of ice on the north. I forget how fast, maybe half a centimetre per year, but significant over two thousand years. Some alleged buildings in the sea have been shown to be natural rock outcrops, and wave action is likely to have destroyed anything that had not allready been salvaged by the locals.-- Charles ( talk) 11:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
They are currently pioneering some interesting technology for seabed scanning at Dunwich, one to watch I suspect. 82.10.108.49 ( talk) 20:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Manhood is now the only secondary school in West Sussex without an article. I am about to create a stub article, but it really will be that as I can find little evidence of the school's history online. Anyone with local knowledge, and access to local sources might be able to improve the article considerably, hopefully. Tafkam ( talk) 23:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
controversial ... has irked local residents on account of its cost, content (see reference) and artistic representation. In particular, a smaller wave can be seen apparently travelling in the opposite direction to the main wave, which is not likely to happen in reality and is a feature not present in the original print. <ref> Revealed: Selsey's new £60,000 sculpture, Chichester Observer, July 2007</ref>
It seems madness that there is an article about Selsey which doesn't even mention the massive holiday camp which must take up 1/4 of the land area. Could anyone add something referenced? 81.103.233.194 ( talk) 02:28, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
There's not much on modern Selsey in the article really. As well as Bunns,could do with something on Langmeads, the high street conservation area coastal erosion etc. Wilfridselsey ( talk) 09:33, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
I would now say that this is a "quite good" article, and have moved up the rating to B Class. A little more work, such as expanding the lead and addressing a few of the above points, and it might stand a good chance at GA. Good luck. Rob ( talk) 19:14, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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I am not totally sure who is right or wrong but we need a concensus here. It isn't going to happen in one line edit descriptions. A revision with it in is here. I have currently removed it. This does not mean I am for or against it, I might be marginally in favour but I'd like to see the arguments for and against. I think everyone is trying to act in good faith. I see how discussion is going in a couple of days time Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 21:45, 17 January 2018 (UTC) Adding a few notes:
Overviewing these points I conclude on balance the climate data should not be included for Selsey but I am open to other arguments. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I am open to having a discussion about the weather box. What I do not agree is that the weather box must not be included until we reach a consensus. I added the data back in the Autumn and added the record highs and lows in the following months, until recently all of that data has gone unchallenged. Soon as the weather box was there before this dispute had begun, then arguably it should remain in place until we reach a consensus. The primary reason I added the weather box was because Selsey is located in the sunniest grid square of the UK according to the Met Office. So because of this, a climate chart will not do as it does not display the sunshine hours. Selsey does not have significantly different weather to most other parts of the UK with the exception of its sunshine totals.
I also do not agree that weather boxes bear little resemblance to the actual weather conditions. Most likely this is used as a cover up to claim things like there are more sunny days in the winter or the south coast of England is not sunny in the summer, both of which are undisputedly false. 10 December 2017 ( talk) 16:00, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Please be aware I have raised this issue at Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Selsey#Climate Edit War. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 14:20, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Responding to comment by charlesdrakew: If Selsey is outstandingly sunny that can be stated in prose with a suitable source. It does not justify including a mass of detailed data not even specific to the settlement As I said before, the data is specific to the settlement-- 10 December 2017 ( talk) 21:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Possible license breach in publishing 5km data (UKCP09 gridded observation datasets) : Believe applicable license is http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/. see https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/data/ukcp09, http://catalogue.ceda.ac.uk/uuid/87f43af9d02e42f483351d79b3d6162a & Citable as: Met Office; Hollis, D.; McCarthy, M. (2017): UKCP09: Met Office gridded and regional land surface climate observation datasets. Centre for Environmental Data Analysis, date of citation. ' http://catalogue.ceda.ac.uk/uuid/' UUID. I may have this wrong but believe there may currently be a possible license breach. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 07:28, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
It says you are free to: copy, publish, distribute and transmit the Information; adapt the Information; exploit the Information commercially and non-commercially for example, by combining it with other Information, or by including it in your own product or application. I did check before I made the weather box-- 10 December 2017 ( talk) 16:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
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Is there a Cathedral out at sea or is this urban legend? I know the Cathedral used to be at Norton in the 11th Century, but have not heard any fact surrounding the sea based cathedral, any ideas?
Norton (The Mount; Pagham Harbour) is listed as "Earthwork remains of an C11 ringwork castle; traces of possible Iron Age occupation were found; Neolithic scrapers and other worked flints were found during excavations. Roman tile and pottery may indicate the site of a villa. Had been identified as an Elizabethan battery. Excavated in 1911, 1965 and 1980." [1]
Graldensblud 23:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Your article refers to inundation and also speaks of erosion. Apparently there are underwater ruins, too? It would be nice if you would tell us the story! I got here through the article on Ys that mentions the fact that many of the lands around the English Channel have been inundated, so I am looking for info on that. Was it flooded, or eroded? When did this happen? What do the underwater ruins, if any, consist of?
Amity150 06:16, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't have specifics, but i read not long ago of an early mediaeval church being found off the south coast of hayling island, where the only documentary reference to a church in such a position was to it standing in the middle of the island. This was claimed at the time i read it to be representative of the sort of sea level change we know has to have occurred re the wading across the solent the romans undertook. 82.10.108.49 ( talk) 10:27, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Southern Britain is still slowly sinking after being lifted during the last ice age, in response to northern Britain being pressed down by the huge weight of ice on the north. I forget how fast, maybe half a centimetre per year, but significant over two thousand years. Some alleged buildings in the sea have been shown to be natural rock outcrops, and wave action is likely to have destroyed anything that had not allready been salvaged by the locals.-- Charles ( talk) 11:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
They are currently pioneering some interesting technology for seabed scanning at Dunwich, one to watch I suspect. 82.10.108.49 ( talk) 20:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Manhood is now the only secondary school in West Sussex without an article. I am about to create a stub article, but it really will be that as I can find little evidence of the school's history online. Anyone with local knowledge, and access to local sources might be able to improve the article considerably, hopefully. Tafkam ( talk) 23:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
controversial ... has irked local residents on account of its cost, content (see reference) and artistic representation. In particular, a smaller wave can be seen apparently travelling in the opposite direction to the main wave, which is not likely to happen in reality and is a feature not present in the original print. <ref> Revealed: Selsey's new £60,000 sculpture, Chichester Observer, July 2007</ref>
It seems madness that there is an article about Selsey which doesn't even mention the massive holiday camp which must take up 1/4 of the land area. Could anyone add something referenced? 81.103.233.194 ( talk) 02:28, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
There's not much on modern Selsey in the article really. As well as Bunns,could do with something on Langmeads, the high street conservation area coastal erosion etc. Wilfridselsey ( talk) 09:33, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
I would now say that this is a "quite good" article, and have moved up the rating to B Class. A little more work, such as expanding the lead and addressing a few of the above points, and it might stand a good chance at GA. Good luck. Rob ( talk) 19:14, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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I am not totally sure who is right or wrong but we need a concensus here. It isn't going to happen in one line edit descriptions. A revision with it in is here. I have currently removed it. This does not mean I am for or against it, I might be marginally in favour but I'd like to see the arguments for and against. I think everyone is trying to act in good faith. I see how discussion is going in a couple of days time Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 21:45, 17 January 2018 (UTC) Adding a few notes:
Overviewing these points I conclude on balance the climate data should not be included for Selsey but I am open to other arguments. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I am open to having a discussion about the weather box. What I do not agree is that the weather box must not be included until we reach a consensus. I added the data back in the Autumn and added the record highs and lows in the following months, until recently all of that data has gone unchallenged. Soon as the weather box was there before this dispute had begun, then arguably it should remain in place until we reach a consensus. The primary reason I added the weather box was because Selsey is located in the sunniest grid square of the UK according to the Met Office. So because of this, a climate chart will not do as it does not display the sunshine hours. Selsey does not have significantly different weather to most other parts of the UK with the exception of its sunshine totals.
I also do not agree that weather boxes bear little resemblance to the actual weather conditions. Most likely this is used as a cover up to claim things like there are more sunny days in the winter or the south coast of England is not sunny in the summer, both of which are undisputedly false. 10 December 2017 ( talk) 16:00, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Please be aware I have raised this issue at Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Selsey#Climate Edit War. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 14:20, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Responding to comment by charlesdrakew: If Selsey is outstandingly sunny that can be stated in prose with a suitable source. It does not justify including a mass of detailed data not even specific to the settlement As I said before, the data is specific to the settlement-- 10 December 2017 ( talk) 21:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Possible license breach in publishing 5km data (UKCP09 gridded observation datasets) : Believe applicable license is http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/. see https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/data/ukcp09, http://catalogue.ceda.ac.uk/uuid/87f43af9d02e42f483351d79b3d6162a & Citable as: Met Office; Hollis, D.; McCarthy, M. (2017): UKCP09: Met Office gridded and regional land surface climate observation datasets. Centre for Environmental Data Analysis, date of citation. ' http://catalogue.ceda.ac.uk/uuid/' UUID. I may have this wrong but believe there may currently be a possible license breach. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 07:28, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
It says you are free to: copy, publish, distribute and transmit the Information; adapt the Information; exploit the Information commercially and non-commercially for example, by combining it with other Information, or by including it in your own product or application. I did check before I made the weather box-- 10 December 2017 ( talk) 16:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
acknowledge the source of the Information by including any attribution statement specified by the Information Provider(s) and, where possible, provide a link to this licence;".
- I must also apologise as something personal has come up for me that I need to attend to with some urgency and I don't have this in as friendly manner as I like. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 10:28, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
NB: I have experimented with the OGL-Citation template at User:Djm-leighpark/sandbox7 (may be volitite) ... this will subjected to change and page may be deleted in due course. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 19:34, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
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