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So I see that the photo of the Mega Drive is a model 1, but the Genesis is model 2? Is there a reason for this inconsistency? Should it be changed? MrNoobNub2 ( talk) 05:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
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I calculated the total number of copies sold for Sonic the hedgehog for the Sega mega drive and after figuring out the accurate total, I need to add it to this page. Sonicnut131 ( talk) 20:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
First: I have read the Title FAQ, I understand the rules and I am in no way suggesting the name be changed again. For what it's worth, I consider myself a neutral observer, having lived in both territories, having never owned a Sega console and with my interest limited to that of a historian. I feel obligated to state that the case given in the FAQ for the US/CA name is symptomatic of a much wider problem with Wikipedia - it is hopelessly US-centric, and the FAQ outlines a near-textbook case of justification of this US-centrality ex post facto with false assertions and spurious arguments. The use of a poll to decide the matter is decidedly the most onerous, and sorriest, chapter of this story, considering the US-centric nature of Wikipedia attracts US users and editors, dissuades those from the rest of the world, and creates a foregone result based not on opinion or expertise, but on self-perpetuating imbalance with a tinge of inviting a sort of national chauvinism. It is not my intent to be disruptive, but as an American living abroad, and having worked as a history teacher in the UK and Australia, I have encountered real-world consequences of this bias. Four out of the five schools at which I worked, across both countries, banned use of Wikipedia chiefly due to the often-absurd levels of US-centrism of both its content and editors. Two of those even blocked access to it from their networks due to frequent usage (and revert after revert to) US spelling on pages whose subjects were entirely based in Commonwealth countries. Proper prosecution of this US-centric folly belongs elsewhere, but I would note that the one argument for the US/CA name over the worldwide name that makes some sense - that US Sega fans recognise the worldwide name less frequently than Japanese, British, Australian, Brazilian (and so on) Sega fans recognise the US/CA name - has nothing to do with the appropriateness of either, but rather is deeply rooted in US people having far less awareness of what goes on in other countries than those countries' people have of what goes on outside their own borders. It is hardly an argument to pander to this phenomenon.
To get to the main point, the wiki takes David Rosen's assertion that he coined the name "Genesis" as fact, relying on a single claim by himself from a 1992 book. The alternative story about Mega Drive Systems - a California-based manufacturer of PC storage devices, particularly SCSI drives - seems convincing, but may be suspect - a YouTuber (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syeSrV9poJo ) searching out the copyright of this company could only trace it to 1991, though in my limited but not nonexistent understanding of US copyright law, this does not falsify the theory that it could have triggered the initial name change. However, the same source also details how the name "Genesis" - a replacement for the original idea for the US launch, "Tomahawk" - was invented not by David Rosen, but by an engineer at Atari during the brief period when Sega had approached Atari with an offer to release the Mega Drive in the US (and elsewhere) as an Atari console. Supposedly, the engineer won a steak dinner for all of his marketing nous. David Rosen's assertion that he invented the name, then, seems more likely than not to be little more than PR - remember the source for attributing the name to Rosen was a book published during the thick of the 16-bit console wars. I do not have the time to go digging to the depths required to find the attributable truth; apparently I spend that time instead railing against my country's unworldliness and ignorance. But I feel confident in suggesting that Rosen's claim should be removed from the article as unproven and contested at best. Khardankov ( talk) 14:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
In North America, the name was changed to "Genesis".
Rosen said he insisted on the name as he disliked "Mega Drive" and wanted to represent "a new beginning" for Sega.It isn't written in Wikipedia's voice — it explicitly says that this is what Rosen said. Popcornfud ( talk) 14:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Can anyone share a source for the Genesis being discontinued in Brazil in 2023, because i couldn't find any and i doubt that claim. Rvtar34 ( talk) 05:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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So I see that the photo of the Mega Drive is a model 1, but the Genesis is model 2? Is there a reason for this inconsistency? Should it be changed? MrNoobNub2 ( talk) 05:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
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I calculated the total number of copies sold for Sonic the hedgehog for the Sega mega drive and after figuring out the accurate total, I need to add it to this page. Sonicnut131 ( talk) 20:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
First: I have read the Title FAQ, I understand the rules and I am in no way suggesting the name be changed again. For what it's worth, I consider myself a neutral observer, having lived in both territories, having never owned a Sega console and with my interest limited to that of a historian. I feel obligated to state that the case given in the FAQ for the US/CA name is symptomatic of a much wider problem with Wikipedia - it is hopelessly US-centric, and the FAQ outlines a near-textbook case of justification of this US-centrality ex post facto with false assertions and spurious arguments. The use of a poll to decide the matter is decidedly the most onerous, and sorriest, chapter of this story, considering the US-centric nature of Wikipedia attracts US users and editors, dissuades those from the rest of the world, and creates a foregone result based not on opinion or expertise, but on self-perpetuating imbalance with a tinge of inviting a sort of national chauvinism. It is not my intent to be disruptive, but as an American living abroad, and having worked as a history teacher in the UK and Australia, I have encountered real-world consequences of this bias. Four out of the five schools at which I worked, across both countries, banned use of Wikipedia chiefly due to the often-absurd levels of US-centrism of both its content and editors. Two of those even blocked access to it from their networks due to frequent usage (and revert after revert to) US spelling on pages whose subjects were entirely based in Commonwealth countries. Proper prosecution of this US-centric folly belongs elsewhere, but I would note that the one argument for the US/CA name over the worldwide name that makes some sense - that US Sega fans recognise the worldwide name less frequently than Japanese, British, Australian, Brazilian (and so on) Sega fans recognise the US/CA name - has nothing to do with the appropriateness of either, but rather is deeply rooted in US people having far less awareness of what goes on in other countries than those countries' people have of what goes on outside their own borders. It is hardly an argument to pander to this phenomenon.
To get to the main point, the wiki takes David Rosen's assertion that he coined the name "Genesis" as fact, relying on a single claim by himself from a 1992 book. The alternative story about Mega Drive Systems - a California-based manufacturer of PC storage devices, particularly SCSI drives - seems convincing, but may be suspect - a YouTuber (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syeSrV9poJo ) searching out the copyright of this company could only trace it to 1991, though in my limited but not nonexistent understanding of US copyright law, this does not falsify the theory that it could have triggered the initial name change. However, the same source also details how the name "Genesis" - a replacement for the original idea for the US launch, "Tomahawk" - was invented not by David Rosen, but by an engineer at Atari during the brief period when Sega had approached Atari with an offer to release the Mega Drive in the US (and elsewhere) as an Atari console. Supposedly, the engineer won a steak dinner for all of his marketing nous. David Rosen's assertion that he invented the name, then, seems more likely than not to be little more than PR - remember the source for attributing the name to Rosen was a book published during the thick of the 16-bit console wars. I do not have the time to go digging to the depths required to find the attributable truth; apparently I spend that time instead railing against my country's unworldliness and ignorance. But I feel confident in suggesting that Rosen's claim should be removed from the article as unproven and contested at best. Khardankov ( talk) 14:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
In North America, the name was changed to "Genesis".
Rosen said he insisted on the name as he disliked "Mega Drive" and wanted to represent "a new beginning" for Sega.It isn't written in Wikipedia's voice — it explicitly says that this is what Rosen said. Popcornfud ( talk) 14:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Can anyone share a source for the Genesis being discontinued in Brazil in 2023, because i couldn't find any and i doubt that claim. Rvtar34 ( talk) 05:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)