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Where references go.

They're listed under the references section already. The mass of footnotes is a little ugly, but it's the best way to draw attention to them so that the page is not deleted a third time. Chubbles ( talk) 21:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC) reply

Someone should mention as to why Bear left the band for a collapsed lung or something along those lines. Im not entirely sure what happened I just spoke with some bands and thats what they told me so far. I just think it needs to be mentioned. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.189.124.93 ( talk) 21:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Ok, the genre had been edited a few times lately, so we need to make a decision: they are certainly not mathcore, and I don't think they are deathcore either. But if we're going to be leaving those up, we need to mention the grind elements as well. I think the best is the deathgrind label, personally. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratmtmv ( talk • contribs) 21:36, 5 April 2009 (UTC) reply

Wow, you definitely don't at all know a single thing about metal/hardcore genres. Second Skin ( talk)

They did the U.K. touring as they stayed at my house at the time 2A02:C7F:5ED0:9300:B46F:A166:8B10:3AC8 ( talk) 05:01, 17 July 2023 (UTC) reply