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On 28 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Second Battle of Lyman to Second battle of Lyman. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The Ministry of Defence of UK tweeted there was "The force probably experienced heavy casualties". Yes Bloomberg, repeated it verbatim and technically you can make a point that it constitute an "expert" secondary source. It's not at all, it's a tweet but, I don't want a fight about this. The main point is : we need better sources than a vague "probably heavy" in the infobox. This is an encyclopedia not a rumor mill. There MUST be better source than this tweet if this battle is going to be encyclopedic. This article just rehash everything in the Ukrainian Kharkiv counteroffensive with absolutely no details about Lyman. This page should be focusing on what happened in Lyman those few days, not an opportunity to repeat other articles. Iluvalar ( talk) 20:17, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I think to say that this is the second battle 2022 and then follow with ref to the 2014 battle is confusing. Can we put the 1st 2022 battle reference in the lead, not in 'background' -hope you see what I mean. Cheers. Thelisteninghand ( talk) 20:28, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
The map I produced is intended to aid with identifying the location of places mentioned in the text. It is enlarged to x1.8 (the maximum recommended size for most images, see MOS:IMGSIZE). Too small to read? It can easily be enlarged more. Amitchell125 ( talk) 07:34, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:First Battle of Lyman which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 11:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
I propose a merge of Second battle of Lyman to 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive.
There is no precedent in sources to refer to the Ukrainian advances in Donetsk Oblast culminating in the capture of Lyman as a separate battle in their own right, distinct from the larger counteroffensive. In fact, much of the content in Second battle of Lyman is already present in the target article 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive. These events correspond very well with what has been termed the "second phase" of the counteroffensive, which includes simultaneous advances a few kilometers north in the Kharkiv Oblast.
SaintPaulOfTarsus ( talk) 17:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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On 28 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Second Battle of Lyman to Second battle of Lyman. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The Ministry of Defence of UK tweeted there was "The force probably experienced heavy casualties". Yes Bloomberg, repeated it verbatim and technically you can make a point that it constitute an "expert" secondary source. It's not at all, it's a tweet but, I don't want a fight about this. The main point is : we need better sources than a vague "probably heavy" in the infobox. This is an encyclopedia not a rumor mill. There MUST be better source than this tweet if this battle is going to be encyclopedic. This article just rehash everything in the Ukrainian Kharkiv counteroffensive with absolutely no details about Lyman. This page should be focusing on what happened in Lyman those few days, not an opportunity to repeat other articles. Iluvalar ( talk) 20:17, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I think to say that this is the second battle 2022 and then follow with ref to the 2014 battle is confusing. Can we put the 1st 2022 battle reference in the lead, not in 'background' -hope you see what I mean. Cheers. Thelisteninghand ( talk) 20:28, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
The map I produced is intended to aid with identifying the location of places mentioned in the text. It is enlarged to x1.8 (the maximum recommended size for most images, see MOS:IMGSIZE). Too small to read? It can easily be enlarged more. Amitchell125 ( talk) 07:34, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:First Battle of Lyman which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 11:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
I propose a merge of Second battle of Lyman to 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive.
There is no precedent in sources to refer to the Ukrainian advances in Donetsk Oblast culminating in the capture of Lyman as a separate battle in their own right, distinct from the larger counteroffensive. In fact, much of the content in Second battle of Lyman is already present in the target article 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive. These events correspond very well with what has been termed the "second phase" of the counteroffensive, which includes simultaneous advances a few kilometers north in the Kharkiv Oblast.
SaintPaulOfTarsus ( talk) 17:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)