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I thought he ran away from home when he was 14 years old, as per his song, dog house boogie ('I left home when i was 14 years of age/i figured i could do it better on my own'), but it's been changed to 13. Does anyone know for definate? JimHxn ( talk) 15:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
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01:50, 2 June 2013 (UTC)An anonymous user (82.12.186.88) is repeatedly removing Steve's age, and claiming there is “speculation in the media” about it, without giving references. He/she writes that Steve does not want his age known, but should note that this is an encyclopedia, not a fan page.
I have put back the long-standing birth date of 'circa 1941', along with three references [2] [3] [4]. (It is possible to find a year older or younger [5], [6], hence the use of 'circa'.) But this user's attempt to introduce doubt about his age is not supported by the evidence.
Please revert any further such unreferenced deletion.
A point this user makes about Steve's superstition following a heart attack (eg. see [7]) could go back in, but not in the lead paragraph. It would refer to his character and experience, not the basic fact of his age.
Finally, as a show of good faith, I have retained the same user's note that Steve's son designs and runs Steve's official websites (even though it is unreferenced). Earthlyreason ( talk) 21:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Not convinced that his age is correct, he stated in an interview in 2000 http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/reluctant-icon/Content?oid=6010 so maybe part of the embilishment of his backstory is to increase his age. Best guess based on this article is 62. Similarly backed up by the Norwegian tax office record above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 11:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Steve Wold is an American citizen and pays taxes in the USA. This Norwegian tax document is nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.200.24.133 ( talk) 14:58, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Steven Gene Wold may be an American passport holder, can you provide evidence of that and of him solely paying taxes in the USA? He certainly has a company in Norway and will pay taxes in that country. The Norwegian tax office reference is not bogus. see http://norwaycompanies.org/seasick-steve-as.146292.norway-company.html . His age was given correctly by himself in the days when he was not famous as a performer nor trying to create a 'certain' persona. It's only now that hazing of his age has become an issue. His DOB is 1951, if this cannot be verified beyond all reasonable doubt then there should be no DOB quoted at all. Currently the best estimate has two sources. see http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=http://www.nrk.no/skattelister2009/steven_gene_wold~1875468/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsteven%2Bgene%2Bwold%2B1951%26safe%3Dactive%26biw%3D1328%26bih%3D643 for Norwegian tax office record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 11:08, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
The 3 string trance wonder is stringed and tuned as follows (shown in 6 string tab format):
No String
G string tuned to B
D string tuned to G (8va)
No String
E string tuned to G
No String
Hope this clears things up!
JimHxn ( talk) 20:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi All,
There are many quotes regarding his correct age. Perhaps if people who are related to Steve in Norway stopped editing WP to suit themsleves we may get closer to reality. (Redacted) is recorded as being born in 1951 see (Redacted) This is Steve Wold's name at borth and the name he used for many years. He Married his current wife using this name, see (Redacted) So, two references to Steve Wold's (born as (Redacted)) age. Whatever name he chooses to use is none of my business, but his DOB is 1951. Furthermore in the late 1990's to early 2000's Steve Wold made multiple usenet postings where he discussed his work and relationship to various artistes, these are a matter of fact and not in dispute. In those postings he used an email address than was based on his US amateur radio licence. This is listed by the FCC and, again, is not a fact that is in doubt. I do not wish to give this information unless neccessary.
I do not want to see this edit-war continue, unless backed by fact and reference in this talk page. All future edits regarding his age will be regarded as vandalism and reverted unless discussed beforehand on this talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trunky ( talk • contribs) 18:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I added semi-protection recently after a request on RfPP from Trunky. Trunky, I see now that you're adding material about the subject and the subject's wife that isn't sourced to secondary sources, which is a violation of the BLP policy, specifically WP:BLPPRIMARY. Whatever the secondary sources say, and what the subject says about himself, is what this article should say, with few exceptions. I've reverted some of the recent changes, though I'm not sure how far back it would be best to go. I'm therefore going to lift the semi-protection in case there are other issues. Please proceed with caution given that this is a BLP. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 16:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Last first: the itemising of what amoints to a chronological list of concert appearances in the UK is undue weight & arguably promotional/fan cruft.
SS has admitted to bring jailed but I don't know what for. Eg: "Back in the 60s when I talked to black people, especially like when I was in jail, about the blues, they said don't talk that slave shit to me. They were uninterested." - Blues America: Bright Lights, Big City (BBC 2013, broadcast of 6 December 2013 on BBC Four, ca. 20 minutes in). - Sitush ( talk) 20:30, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Do we really need ten references in the lede for his birth-date?-- Раціональне анархіст ( talk) 15:27, 9 December 2014
I am curious as to why the English entry is at variance so much with the Norwegian entry ( https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasick_Steve) particularly with respect to the subjects age? The Norwegian entry seems very well referenced to support a birth year of 1951. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 08:06, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
I added semi-protection recently after a request on RfPP from Trunky. Trunky, I see now that you're adding material about the subject and the subject's wife that isn't sourced to secondary sources, which is a violation of the BLP policy, specifically WP:BLPPRIMARY. Whatever the secondary sources say, and what the subject says about himself, is what this article should say, with few exceptions. I've reverted some of the recent changes, though I'm not sure how far back it would be best to go. I'm therefore going to lift the semi-protection in case there are other issues. Please proceed with caution given that this is a BLP. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 16:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
And so, back to my original question, we have two pages, both well referenced, with differing dates. Which one is wrong? Are both wrong? 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 09:48, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
It is reported that Steven Gene Wold took his wifes surname upon marriage and his birth name is (Redacted). What is the relationship between Steven and (Redacted)? The only documented children are male, so presumably an unknown child or close releative. 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 10:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
I have several sources,however, I would have to double check what I have and then see if it is acceptable to use by wiki standards. I shall whnen time permits thorough research
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Someone should acquire the book Seasick Steve: Ramblin’ Man by Matthew Wright ( book review), which denies some "facts" from the life story of the artist. Apparently his birth name, birth date, education and early occupations are not like he tells us. Henxter ( talk) 08:03, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I did try and tell you this some years ago. The truth will come out 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 12:17, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
I have read the Biography of Steve by Matthew Wright and the much alluded to date of birth for Steve is confirmed as 19th March 1951 by Sevrin Johnson. Sevrin is Steve's first born son from Steve's first marriage to Victoria Johnson. His First known name is also confirmed by the same source as Leach, although as he was adopted there may have been an earlier name, but that is not relevant.
It is now time to change the wikipedia entry.
McGeddon - I do not see why it is relevant to wait for a 'reaction' from Steve. There has been a form of omertà running in relation to the biography of Steve since the creation of his hobo act. I suspect several WP editors of having contributed to this. McGeddon, if you cannot be objective over this, then please step away. A large number of articles exist in the Norwegian press in which Steve is clear about his actual age and his original name. These all date from before his 'hobo breakthrough'.
Arguably his biography and musical history is far more interesting than the omertà allows to be published - Appearing as bass player with Shanti, the French disco group Crystal Grass etc.
Can someone allow these edits or make the changes without an edit war occurring? Trunky ( talk) 08:34, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
I've given the page a semi-protect for a week because there has been some edit warring over the biography. Without going too overly much into things, the basic gist is that someone is contending that much of the article is incorrect, however the sources they're providing are in places Wikipedia would not consider reliable enough to completely overturn everything in the article - especially when it comes to things like the birth date. There's also a book, however the publication of one book isn't always seen as absolute proof on Wikipedia and not every publisher passes the rigorous standards of WP:RS. I haven't looked heavily into the publisher so it might be that they are reliable, however labeling them as such requires that we look into their editorial process and reputation, which can take a while. Plus if this is the only source that claims this then we can't really change the entire article accordingly, since that poses a BLP issue if multiple other sources uniformly claim something else entirely.
I'll open up a discussion at RS/N about the publisher and it can go from there. However as far as major changes and inclusion of the book goes, this should be discussed here before it's added, as it poses a BLP issue. Even if the book is correct - and I'm not saying that it is - saying that everything else is incorrect and the result of years of people deliberately hiding the truth is an extremely contentious claim. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
This has all gone back into the article today (as direct, voice-of-Wikipedia factual edits to the subject's birthdate, birth name and biography, erasing previous contradictory claims and sources) on the back of a Bob Stanley Guardian music blog review of the book. But WP:NEWSBLOG says to use news blogs "with caution because the blog may not be subject to the news organization's normal fact-checking process" and "note that any exceptional claim would require exceptional sources" - this may still not be ready for prime-time, if a blog review is so far the only impact of the biography.
WP:BLPSOURCES says that "When material is both verifiable and noteworthy, it will have appeared in more reliable sources." and I don't think we've hit that yet. A Guardian blog review is probably enough for a section about the unauthorised biography and its claims, but doesn't seem to be enough to reframe the entire article. -- McGeddon ( talk) 13:53, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
It's only a matter of time. The truth has been known for some considerable period, it's just a waiting game for enough reliable sources. Trunky ( talk) 10:19, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Of course facts matter, otherwise simply delete the article! He admits himself that he was not born in 1941, see https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.krone.at%2Fmusik%2Fseasick-steve-reiche-sind-oft-ekelerregend-krone-interview-story-530972&edit-text=&act=url "Seasick Steve: Now you get once the cold truth served on the tray - I have never any man ever said my real age. Why do people write then that I was born in 1941?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trunky ( talk • contribs) 10:37, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
As someone who uses Wikipedia to try to find facts, and couldn't care less about the petty Wikipedia edit rivalry that apparently some people care about, I have to say this article is a perfect example of that ridiculous pettiness. There are ample sources showing that Steven Leach was born in 1951 and subsequently changed his name to Steven Wold, and that this person is the musician known as Seasick Steve. So put it in the article and stop being so silly. 82.17.143.121 ( talk) 08:43, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
Given that the unauthorised biography was quite widely publicised at the time, in reliable sources, can someone explain why - in this edit by Ohnoitsjamie in March 2018 - the name of the person making the claims was removed? Whether or not that person has in the past tried to edit this article - for which I haven't seen any evidence - seems completely irrelevant. The claims are, quite rightly, summarised in the article as notable and pertinent, and it seems perverse not to include the name of the biographer making the claims. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 21:49, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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SS was born in 1951, why is his DoB given as 1941 on wikipeadia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.146.155 ( talk) 18:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
After years of moaning we've all happily decided that he was born as Steven Gene Leach (not strictly true as he was adopted and that's his adopted name) and the he's born in 1951.
Awesome.
Progress at last. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.100.94 ( talk • contribs) 09:33, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Why is Wikipedia repeating Matthew Wright's unofficial biography as gospel? Is the logic that the claims made about Steve's past must all be true because otherwise he would have sued Wright's publisher by now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.57.135 ( talk) 21:39, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
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I thought he ran away from home when he was 14 years old, as per his song, dog house boogie ('I left home when i was 14 years of age/i figured i could do it better on my own'), but it's been changed to 13. Does anyone know for definate? JimHxn ( talk) 15:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
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01:50, 2 June 2013 (UTC)An anonymous user (82.12.186.88) is repeatedly removing Steve's age, and claiming there is “speculation in the media” about it, without giving references. He/she writes that Steve does not want his age known, but should note that this is an encyclopedia, not a fan page.
I have put back the long-standing birth date of 'circa 1941', along with three references [2] [3] [4]. (It is possible to find a year older or younger [5], [6], hence the use of 'circa'.) But this user's attempt to introduce doubt about his age is not supported by the evidence.
Please revert any further such unreferenced deletion.
A point this user makes about Steve's superstition following a heart attack (eg. see [7]) could go back in, but not in the lead paragraph. It would refer to his character and experience, not the basic fact of his age.
Finally, as a show of good faith, I have retained the same user's note that Steve's son designs and runs Steve's official websites (even though it is unreferenced). Earthlyreason ( talk) 21:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Not convinced that his age is correct, he stated in an interview in 2000 http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/reluctant-icon/Content?oid=6010 so maybe part of the embilishment of his backstory is to increase his age. Best guess based on this article is 62. Similarly backed up by the Norwegian tax office record above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 11:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Steve Wold is an American citizen and pays taxes in the USA. This Norwegian tax document is nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.200.24.133 ( talk) 14:58, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Steven Gene Wold may be an American passport holder, can you provide evidence of that and of him solely paying taxes in the USA? He certainly has a company in Norway and will pay taxes in that country. The Norwegian tax office reference is not bogus. see http://norwaycompanies.org/seasick-steve-as.146292.norway-company.html . His age was given correctly by himself in the days when he was not famous as a performer nor trying to create a 'certain' persona. It's only now that hazing of his age has become an issue. His DOB is 1951, if this cannot be verified beyond all reasonable doubt then there should be no DOB quoted at all. Currently the best estimate has two sources. see http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=http://www.nrk.no/skattelister2009/steven_gene_wold~1875468/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsteven%2Bgene%2Bwold%2B1951%26safe%3Dactive%26biw%3D1328%26bih%3D643 for Norwegian tax office record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 11:08, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
The 3 string trance wonder is stringed and tuned as follows (shown in 6 string tab format):
No String
G string tuned to B
D string tuned to G (8va)
No String
E string tuned to G
No String
Hope this clears things up!
JimHxn ( talk) 20:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi All,
There are many quotes regarding his correct age. Perhaps if people who are related to Steve in Norway stopped editing WP to suit themsleves we may get closer to reality. (Redacted) is recorded as being born in 1951 see (Redacted) This is Steve Wold's name at borth and the name he used for many years. He Married his current wife using this name, see (Redacted) So, two references to Steve Wold's (born as (Redacted)) age. Whatever name he chooses to use is none of my business, but his DOB is 1951. Furthermore in the late 1990's to early 2000's Steve Wold made multiple usenet postings where he discussed his work and relationship to various artistes, these are a matter of fact and not in dispute. In those postings he used an email address than was based on his US amateur radio licence. This is listed by the FCC and, again, is not a fact that is in doubt. I do not wish to give this information unless neccessary.
I do not want to see this edit-war continue, unless backed by fact and reference in this talk page. All future edits regarding his age will be regarded as vandalism and reverted unless discussed beforehand on this talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trunky ( talk • contribs) 18:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I added semi-protection recently after a request on RfPP from Trunky. Trunky, I see now that you're adding material about the subject and the subject's wife that isn't sourced to secondary sources, which is a violation of the BLP policy, specifically WP:BLPPRIMARY. Whatever the secondary sources say, and what the subject says about himself, is what this article should say, with few exceptions. I've reverted some of the recent changes, though I'm not sure how far back it would be best to go. I'm therefore going to lift the semi-protection in case there are other issues. Please proceed with caution given that this is a BLP. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 16:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Last first: the itemising of what amoints to a chronological list of concert appearances in the UK is undue weight & arguably promotional/fan cruft.
SS has admitted to bring jailed but I don't know what for. Eg: "Back in the 60s when I talked to black people, especially like when I was in jail, about the blues, they said don't talk that slave shit to me. They were uninterested." - Blues America: Bright Lights, Big City (BBC 2013, broadcast of 6 December 2013 on BBC Four, ca. 20 minutes in). - Sitush ( talk) 20:30, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Do we really need ten references in the lede for his birth-date?-- Раціональне анархіст ( talk) 15:27, 9 December 2014
I am curious as to why the English entry is at variance so much with the Norwegian entry ( https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasick_Steve) particularly with respect to the subjects age? The Norwegian entry seems very well referenced to support a birth year of 1951. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 08:06, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
I added semi-protection recently after a request on RfPP from Trunky. Trunky, I see now that you're adding material about the subject and the subject's wife that isn't sourced to secondary sources, which is a violation of the BLP policy, specifically WP:BLPPRIMARY. Whatever the secondary sources say, and what the subject says about himself, is what this article should say, with few exceptions. I've reverted some of the recent changes, though I'm not sure how far back it would be best to go. I'm therefore going to lift the semi-protection in case there are other issues. Please proceed with caution given that this is a BLP. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 16:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
And so, back to my original question, we have two pages, both well referenced, with differing dates. Which one is wrong? Are both wrong? 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 09:48, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
It is reported that Steven Gene Wold took his wifes surname upon marriage and his birth name is (Redacted). What is the relationship between Steven and (Redacted)? The only documented children are male, so presumably an unknown child or close releative. 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 10:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
I have several sources,however, I would have to double check what I have and then see if it is acceptable to use by wiki standards. I shall whnen time permits thorough research
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In the meantime please refrain from inserting the unsourced alledged last name here without a source. As it says at the heading of this talk page. Content that is contentious and unsourced should be immediately removed from the main page and the talk page. I think this is pretty clear. It is Wikipedia policy to list your source. You personally are not a source . Aircastle ( talk) 11:27, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
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Someone should acquire the book Seasick Steve: Ramblin’ Man by Matthew Wright ( book review), which denies some "facts" from the life story of the artist. Apparently his birth name, birth date, education and early occupations are not like he tells us. Henxter ( talk) 08:03, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I did try and tell you this some years ago. The truth will come out 80.195.100.70 ( talk) 12:17, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
I have read the Biography of Steve by Matthew Wright and the much alluded to date of birth for Steve is confirmed as 19th March 1951 by Sevrin Johnson. Sevrin is Steve's first born son from Steve's first marriage to Victoria Johnson. His First known name is also confirmed by the same source as Leach, although as he was adopted there may have been an earlier name, but that is not relevant.
It is now time to change the wikipedia entry.
McGeddon - I do not see why it is relevant to wait for a 'reaction' from Steve. There has been a form of omertà running in relation to the biography of Steve since the creation of his hobo act. I suspect several WP editors of having contributed to this. McGeddon, if you cannot be objective over this, then please step away. A large number of articles exist in the Norwegian press in which Steve is clear about his actual age and his original name. These all date from before his 'hobo breakthrough'.
Arguably his biography and musical history is far more interesting than the omertà allows to be published - Appearing as bass player with Shanti, the French disco group Crystal Grass etc.
Can someone allow these edits or make the changes without an edit war occurring? Trunky ( talk) 08:34, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
I've given the page a semi-protect for a week because there has been some edit warring over the biography. Without going too overly much into things, the basic gist is that someone is contending that much of the article is incorrect, however the sources they're providing are in places Wikipedia would not consider reliable enough to completely overturn everything in the article - especially when it comes to things like the birth date. There's also a book, however the publication of one book isn't always seen as absolute proof on Wikipedia and not every publisher passes the rigorous standards of WP:RS. I haven't looked heavily into the publisher so it might be that they are reliable, however labeling them as such requires that we look into their editorial process and reputation, which can take a while. Plus if this is the only source that claims this then we can't really change the entire article accordingly, since that poses a BLP issue if multiple other sources uniformly claim something else entirely.
I'll open up a discussion at RS/N about the publisher and it can go from there. However as far as major changes and inclusion of the book goes, this should be discussed here before it's added, as it poses a BLP issue. Even if the book is correct - and I'm not saying that it is - saying that everything else is incorrect and the result of years of people deliberately hiding the truth is an extremely contentious claim. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
This has all gone back into the article today (as direct, voice-of-Wikipedia factual edits to the subject's birthdate, birth name and biography, erasing previous contradictory claims and sources) on the back of a Bob Stanley Guardian music blog review of the book. But WP:NEWSBLOG says to use news blogs "with caution because the blog may not be subject to the news organization's normal fact-checking process" and "note that any exceptional claim would require exceptional sources" - this may still not be ready for prime-time, if a blog review is so far the only impact of the biography.
WP:BLPSOURCES says that "When material is both verifiable and noteworthy, it will have appeared in more reliable sources." and I don't think we've hit that yet. A Guardian blog review is probably enough for a section about the unauthorised biography and its claims, but doesn't seem to be enough to reframe the entire article. -- McGeddon ( talk) 13:53, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
It's only a matter of time. The truth has been known for some considerable period, it's just a waiting game for enough reliable sources. Trunky ( talk) 10:19, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Of course facts matter, otherwise simply delete the article! He admits himself that he was not born in 1941, see https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.krone.at%2Fmusik%2Fseasick-steve-reiche-sind-oft-ekelerregend-krone-interview-story-530972&edit-text=&act=url "Seasick Steve: Now you get once the cold truth served on the tray - I have never any man ever said my real age. Why do people write then that I was born in 1941?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trunky ( talk • contribs) 10:37, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
As someone who uses Wikipedia to try to find facts, and couldn't care less about the petty Wikipedia edit rivalry that apparently some people care about, I have to say this article is a perfect example of that ridiculous pettiness. There are ample sources showing that Steven Leach was born in 1951 and subsequently changed his name to Steven Wold, and that this person is the musician known as Seasick Steve. So put it in the article and stop being so silly. 82.17.143.121 ( talk) 08:43, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
Given that the unauthorised biography was quite widely publicised at the time, in reliable sources, can someone explain why - in this edit by Ohnoitsjamie in March 2018 - the name of the person making the claims was removed? Whether or not that person has in the past tried to edit this article - for which I haven't seen any evidence - seems completely irrelevant. The claims are, quite rightly, summarised in the article as notable and pertinent, and it seems perverse not to include the name of the biographer making the claims. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 21:49, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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SS was born in 1951, why is his DoB given as 1941 on wikipeadia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.146.155 ( talk) 18:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
After years of moaning we've all happily decided that he was born as Steven Gene Leach (not strictly true as he was adopted and that's his adopted name) and the he's born in 1951.
Awesome.
Progress at last. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.100.94 ( talk • contribs) 09:33, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Why is Wikipedia repeating Matthew Wright's unofficial biography as gospel? Is the logic that the claims made about Steve's past must all be true because otherwise he would have sued Wright's publisher by now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.57.135 ( talk) 21:39, 14 October 2019 (UTC)