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Comment.
Michael-Moates, a merger discussion can take place without launching an RfC. I suggest you close this RfC since I see no indication that it is necessary at this stage. The ordinary
WP:MERGEPROP procedure is sufficient to discuss this merge.
JBchrchtalk11:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose merge. "Alternative facts" has taken on a life of its own, and it wasn't even Spicer who coined the phrase; it was Kellyanne Conway. --
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Chronology of Spicer's Life Needs Rearranging
Throughout the article, there are many instances--too many to cite--in which milestones from Spicer's life are mentioned out of chronological order. This problem makes it very difficult even for a reader with above-average comprehension ability to develop a consistent chronological narrative. It would be very helpful if your editor(s) would review the entire page and make edits to improve the article's chronology. Thank you. — Preceding
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68.198.85.24 (
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21:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Unexplained reversion
@
Billmckern recently undid an
edit of mine with the comment "there you go...". That's not an appropriate edit comment and somewhat condescending/dismissive to me. I stand by the reasoning I provided. To be clear, I think the claim being made that I deleted is possibly true (i.e. the news companies all rejected him for that reason), but I don't think the sourcing has adequate support or wording per
WP:BLP and
WP:NPOV.
211.43.120.242 (
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04:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Also if there's an assumption that the claim offends me because I like Spicer, that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm pretty strongly left leaning and dislike Spicer.
211.43.120.242 (
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04:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I used "there you go" to indicate that I added more references for the relevant passage. Spicer wasn't offered the opportunity to become a paid contributor on any of the major networks because he lacks credibility. Several sources verify this. It's comparable to the Ronna McDaniel situation, except that first an outlet did want to hire her, but then had to backtrack. I added citations about Spicer's credibility as additional references to support the claim. That's all.
Billmckern (
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11:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Sorry, I missed that you had added those sources in that edit; I misinterpreted the situation. I'm still skeptical of having anonymous tipoffs be suitable for a
WP:BLP, but as long as that's clarified inline I think it's fine.
211.43.120.242 (
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12:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Text and/or other creative content from
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Sean Spicer was copied or moved into
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Comment.
Michael-Moates, a merger discussion can take place without launching an RfC. I suggest you close this RfC since I see no indication that it is necessary at this stage. The ordinary
WP:MERGEPROP procedure is sufficient to discuss this merge.
JBchrchtalk11:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose merge. "Alternative facts" has taken on a life of its own, and it wasn't even Spicer who coined the phrase; it was Kellyanne Conway. --
MelanieN (
talk)
23:22, 20 June 2021 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Chronology of Spicer's Life Needs Rearranging
Throughout the article, there are many instances--too many to cite--in which milestones from Spicer's life are mentioned out of chronological order. This problem makes it very difficult even for a reader with above-average comprehension ability to develop a consistent chronological narrative. It would be very helpful if your editor(s) would review the entire page and make edits to improve the article's chronology. Thank you. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
68.198.85.24 (
talk)
21:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Unexplained reversion
@
Billmckern recently undid an
edit of mine with the comment "there you go...". That's not an appropriate edit comment and somewhat condescending/dismissive to me. I stand by the reasoning I provided. To be clear, I think the claim being made that I deleted is possibly true (i.e. the news companies all rejected him for that reason), but I don't think the sourcing has adequate support or wording per
WP:BLP and
WP:NPOV.
211.43.120.242 (
talk)
04:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Also if there's an assumption that the claim offends me because I like Spicer, that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm pretty strongly left leaning and dislike Spicer.
211.43.120.242 (
talk)
04:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I used "there you go" to indicate that I added more references for the relevant passage. Spicer wasn't offered the opportunity to become a paid contributor on any of the major networks because he lacks credibility. Several sources verify this. It's comparable to the Ronna McDaniel situation, except that first an outlet did want to hire her, but then had to backtrack. I added citations about Spicer's credibility as additional references to support the claim. That's all.
Billmckern (
talk)
11:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Sorry, I missed that you had added those sources in that edit; I misinterpreted the situation. I'm still skeptical of having anonymous tipoffs be suitable for a
WP:BLP, but as long as that's clarified inline I think it's fine.
211.43.120.242 (
talk)
12:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)reply