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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 07:14, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Shouldn't the relatively famous restaurant that resided in the building from 1959-2016 be mentioned in the article? After all it's interior design was also done by van der Rohe and Johnson, so it too works with the exterior and interior concept already mentioned in the article. The Article on The Four Seasons Restaurant already links back to the Seagram Building, so it's weird that it isn't included here. -- 5.146.47.110 ( talk) 15:57, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
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Regarding 108.41.129.35 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS)'s comment in the edit summary of this edit:
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Epicgenius:, ArchDaily is reliable & balanced: Johnson was arch'l hack & Nazi going to Hitler's rallies in Nuremburg 1933-41 till FBI "persuaded" to stop, he stole Mies's design of Farnsworth House to make due to wealth earlier "his" Glass House that he never denied, as obvious, his "contribution" to Seagram design were min. in office furniture & interiors of restaurants; Kahn designed less & Jacobs next to 0. All 3 do not belong to the same sentence w/ Mies, as ArchDaily presents.
I agree that Mies was the main architect. The main reason that I had restored Johnson and Kahn & Jacobs's names was because their specific contributions are mentioned further down in the article. I have no comment on Johnson's motivations here, but he did have a more than nominal role, as he designed the interiors of the building. It seems that, at least for a while, he did have a leadership role as Mies was not licensed to practice architecture in New York (as cited in Mertins, Detlef (2014). Mies. p. 341). Kahn & Jacobs seem to have had the least contribution to the Seagram Building's design, though.
Regarding my edit summary here, it was poorly written; sorry about that. I meant to say that there are already reliable sources in the article, not that ArchDaily wasn't reliable. In hindsight, I should've moved down the ArchDaily reference per WP:CITELEAD, since the lead section is meant to be a summary of information that is already cited in the body. – Epicgenius ( talk) 12:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 07:14, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Shouldn't the relatively famous restaurant that resided in the building from 1959-2016 be mentioned in the article? After all it's interior design was also done by van der Rohe and Johnson, so it too works with the exterior and interior concept already mentioned in the article. The Article on The Four Seasons Restaurant already links back to the Seagram Building, so it's weird that it isn't included here. -- 5.146.47.110 ( talk) 15:57, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
MeegsC (
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12:22, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
5x expanded by Epicgenius ( talk). Self-nominated at 00:18, 17 March 2021 (UTC).
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall:
So many great hooks. Original is most concise, but I've refined ALT2A for our Emoji history making. "
You ain't seen nothing yet".
No Swan So Fine (
talk)
10:57, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Regarding 108.41.129.35 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS)'s comment in the edit summary of this edit:
@
Epicgenius:, ArchDaily is reliable & balanced: Johnson was arch'l hack & Nazi going to Hitler's rallies in Nuremburg 1933-41 till FBI "persuaded" to stop, he stole Mies's design of Farnsworth House to make due to wealth earlier "his" Glass House that he never denied, as obvious, his "contribution" to Seagram design were min. in office furniture & interiors of restaurants; Kahn designed less & Jacobs next to 0. All 3 do not belong to the same sentence w/ Mies, as ArchDaily presents.
I agree that Mies was the main architect. The main reason that I had restored Johnson and Kahn & Jacobs's names was because their specific contributions are mentioned further down in the article. I have no comment on Johnson's motivations here, but he did have a more than nominal role, as he designed the interiors of the building. It seems that, at least for a while, he did have a leadership role as Mies was not licensed to practice architecture in New York (as cited in Mertins, Detlef (2014). Mies. p. 341). Kahn & Jacobs seem to have had the least contribution to the Seagram Building's design, though.
Regarding my edit summary here, it was poorly written; sorry about that. I meant to say that there are already reliable sources in the article, not that ArchDaily wasn't reliable. In hindsight, I should've moved down the ArchDaily reference per WP:CITELEAD, since the lead section is meant to be a summary of information that is already cited in the body. – Epicgenius ( talk) 12:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)