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It is still unclear what this page is supposed to be about exactly, and there is a lot of WP:CFORK potential:
Unless we can be clear of what this page is about and how it differs from the three other topics mentioned (other than being an uncoordinated conflation of all three...), perhaps it would be better off as a disambiguation page. It seems that the western (i.e. Christian) concept of "theology" is difficult to apply to Islam, because
bottom line, it isn't clear to me that the term is applicable in any straightforward sense, and it might be better to ask the reader "did you mean kalam? or did you mean aqidah? or did you mean 'sectarian division'?" and then send them to a well-defined topic via disambiguation. -- dab (𒁳) 10:25, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
The purpose of the page is to address to the Schools of islamic theology like Athari, Ash'ari, Maturidi, Murji'ah, Salafi, and Mu'tazili. These are not madhhabs and these topics should not be considered under Islamic schools and branches . This section should be deleted Schools of theology from Islamic schools and branches and Islamic theology should be kept here. 68.100.164.21 ( talk) 10:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Going over the history of this, I realized that I noted the problem before, back in March 2014. I tried to address the problem by splitting into Ilm al-Kalam plus Aqidah. This page is a recreation of the problem by an anonymous editor two weeks later [1] I don't doubt that the editor was meaning well, and there isn't a problem with the content as such, just with WP:CFORK. I don't think we can go forward if complicated and well-argued attempts of reducing such duplication are just wiped out by undiscussed re-creation of the split page, so I suggest this article should once again be turned into a disambiguation page. If it has any content not already in the target articles (which I doubt), it can be merged. -- dab (𒁳) 10:38, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Although User:Sakimonk lists Islamic theology as his/her Second Favourite Contribution, Islamic theology: Revision history shows that there is no contribution here made by Sakimonk's contributions but Talk:Athari. 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 03:08, 9 August 2015 (UTC) 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 04:00, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
This is a proof of a fake identity. In addition, it was incorrect to list Baha'i & Yazdânism Religions in that previously mentioned template... 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 04:05, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Hey IP user 68.100.166.227, if you want to keep changing the lead sentence of the article you have to request changing the article's title, you cant have a lead sentence which doesn't corroborate with the title!! Sakimonk talk 13:51, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
See Talk:Traditionalist_Theology_(Islam)#Content_removal_by_Saheehinfo. Eperoton ( talk) 19:38, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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It is still unclear what this page is supposed to be about exactly, and there is a lot of WP:CFORK potential:
Unless we can be clear of what this page is about and how it differs from the three other topics mentioned (other than being an uncoordinated conflation of all three...), perhaps it would be better off as a disambiguation page. It seems that the western (i.e. Christian) concept of "theology" is difficult to apply to Islam, because
bottom line, it isn't clear to me that the term is applicable in any straightforward sense, and it might be better to ask the reader "did you mean kalam? or did you mean aqidah? or did you mean 'sectarian division'?" and then send them to a well-defined topic via disambiguation. -- dab (𒁳) 10:25, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
The purpose of the page is to address to the Schools of islamic theology like Athari, Ash'ari, Maturidi, Murji'ah, Salafi, and Mu'tazili. These are not madhhabs and these topics should not be considered under Islamic schools and branches . This section should be deleted Schools of theology from Islamic schools and branches and Islamic theology should be kept here. 68.100.164.21 ( talk) 10:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Going over the history of this, I realized that I noted the problem before, back in March 2014. I tried to address the problem by splitting into Ilm al-Kalam plus Aqidah. This page is a recreation of the problem by an anonymous editor two weeks later [1] I don't doubt that the editor was meaning well, and there isn't a problem with the content as such, just with WP:CFORK. I don't think we can go forward if complicated and well-argued attempts of reducing such duplication are just wiped out by undiscussed re-creation of the split page, so I suggest this article should once again be turned into a disambiguation page. If it has any content not already in the target articles (which I doubt), it can be merged. -- dab (𒁳) 10:38, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Although User:Sakimonk lists Islamic theology as his/her Second Favourite Contribution, Islamic theology: Revision history shows that there is no contribution here made by Sakimonk's contributions but Talk:Athari. 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 03:08, 9 August 2015 (UTC) 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 04:00, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
This is a proof of a fake identity. In addition, it was incorrect to list Baha'i & Yazdânism Religions in that previously mentioned template... 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 04:05, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Hey IP user 68.100.166.227, if you want to keep changing the lead sentence of the article you have to request changing the article's title, you cant have a lead sentence which doesn't corroborate with the title!! Sakimonk talk 13:51, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
See Talk:Traditionalist_Theology_(Islam)#Content_removal_by_Saheehinfo. Eperoton ( talk) 19:38, 9 July 2016 (UTC)