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Hi Eperoton, could you take a look at what is going on at Talk:Concubinage in Islam? I have written a whole section explaining why I was restoring the last stable version [1] but Vice regent keeps on bringing back the new version without consensus. [2] [3] I don't want to edit war. What do you think about it? Should the last stable version be retained while discussion is ongoing? And I have also shown the verifiability of every single sentence which is being removed. [4] No one has engaged with me on that except for Vice regent and that too for only one of the sentences (out of the dozens). [5] And I responded to that. [6] Yet they keep on doing wholesale removal of everything. Mcphurphy ( talk) 08:59, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Hey, You said you were reading Brown's book. Where did you get it? Is there somehow I can access it too? Thanks, VR talk 08:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
VR talk 02:17, 31 July 2020 (UTC)The “globalized” Indian Ocean trade in fact has substantially earlier, even pre-Islamic, global roots. These roots extend back to at least 2500 BCE, suggesting that the so-called “globalization” of the Indian Ocean trading phenomena, including slave trading, was in reality a development that was built upon the activities of pre-Islamic Middle Eastern empires, which activities were in turn inherited, appropriated, and improved upon by the Muslim empires that followed them, and then, after that, they were again appropriated, exploited, and improved upon by Western European interveners.
While working on article Islamic advice literature I realized that word 'Qisas' is appearing in different meaning at Qisas Al-Anbiya it comes as story/anecdote telling (alternative spelling Kissa). And in article named Qisas seems to come as revenge. Need support in creating proper disambiguation page and links so reader do not end up in unexpected pages.
Of course article Islamic advice literature too needs support in update and expansion since lot of scholarly references are available in books and google scholar too.
Thanks in advance and greetings
Bookku ( talk) 08:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to help with DR here. One of the points of dispute is whether marital rape is allowed in Islam. I have left my response. If you have time please give your thoughts. VR talk 17:35, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Can you take a look at this article and see where the balance lies in the recent contested edits between me and Grufo. Thank you. 119.155.25.15 ( talk) 14:36, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
I saw this edit. The way I read the source is that the "permitted to hit his wife without any liability" is in the context of the law of qisas, which is mentioned in the previous sentence. I don't think it is meant to be a general and standalone statement. Meaning it does not rule out that the wife could still get some recourse under other legal principles (say, compensation or divorce). Of course, the onus is on me to find those sources. VR talk 03:49, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
In the case of broken bones and wounds, husbands were liable for some sort of monetary compensation but not retaliation in kind (qisas). They relied on the legal maxim “there is no retaliation (qisas) in marriage” to make this point. In the case of a wife’s death, however, a husband was subject to retribution in kind (qisas).
An "editor" who apparently believes Galland didn't insert the orphan tales, but "restored" them from "earlier European versions" from the "original Arabic text" has been attacking the lede of this one. Please, I think I need some help maintaining the facts here. -- Soundofmusicals ( talk) 20:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
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Do you think this edit was against WP:OR? [1] 194.247.60.2 ( talk)
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Hi Eperoton, could you take a look at what is going on at Talk:Concubinage in Islam? I have written a whole section explaining why I was restoring the last stable version [1] but Vice regent keeps on bringing back the new version without consensus. [2] [3] I don't want to edit war. What do you think about it? Should the last stable version be retained while discussion is ongoing? And I have also shown the verifiability of every single sentence which is being removed. [4] No one has engaged with me on that except for Vice regent and that too for only one of the sentences (out of the dozens). [5] And I responded to that. [6] Yet they keep on doing wholesale removal of everything. Mcphurphy ( talk) 08:59, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Hey, You said you were reading Brown's book. Where did you get it? Is there somehow I can access it too? Thanks, VR talk 08:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
VR talk 02:17, 31 July 2020 (UTC)The “globalized” Indian Ocean trade in fact has substantially earlier, even pre-Islamic, global roots. These roots extend back to at least 2500 BCE, suggesting that the so-called “globalization” of the Indian Ocean trading phenomena, including slave trading, was in reality a development that was built upon the activities of pre-Islamic Middle Eastern empires, which activities were in turn inherited, appropriated, and improved upon by the Muslim empires that followed them, and then, after that, they were again appropriated, exploited, and improved upon by Western European interveners.
While working on article Islamic advice literature I realized that word 'Qisas' is appearing in different meaning at Qisas Al-Anbiya it comes as story/anecdote telling (alternative spelling Kissa). And in article named Qisas seems to come as revenge. Need support in creating proper disambiguation page and links so reader do not end up in unexpected pages.
Of course article Islamic advice literature too needs support in update and expansion since lot of scholarly references are available in books and google scholar too.
Thanks in advance and greetings
Bookku ( talk) 08:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to help with DR here. One of the points of dispute is whether marital rape is allowed in Islam. I have left my response. If you have time please give your thoughts. VR talk 17:35, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Can you take a look at this article and see where the balance lies in the recent contested edits between me and Grufo. Thank you. 119.155.25.15 ( talk) 14:36, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
I saw this edit. The way I read the source is that the "permitted to hit his wife without any liability" is in the context of the law of qisas, which is mentioned in the previous sentence. I don't think it is meant to be a general and standalone statement. Meaning it does not rule out that the wife could still get some recourse under other legal principles (say, compensation or divorce). Of course, the onus is on me to find those sources. VR talk 03:49, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
In the case of broken bones and wounds, husbands were liable for some sort of monetary compensation but not retaliation in kind (qisas). They relied on the legal maxim “there is no retaliation (qisas) in marriage” to make this point. In the case of a wife’s death, however, a husband was subject to retribution in kind (qisas).
An "editor" who apparently believes Galland didn't insert the orphan tales, but "restored" them from "earlier European versions" from the "original Arabic text" has been attacking the lede of this one. Please, I think I need some help maintaining the facts here. -- Soundofmusicals ( talk) 20:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Muhakkima, to which you have significantly contributed, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or if it should be deleted.
The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhakkima until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot ( talk) 01:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
A Peer review request has been made for article Islamic marriage contract to receive a broader perspective on how it may be improved.
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 10:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC)