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It seems like there's an episode missing as there is no episode with production code 101, so there are 12 episodes that aired in the first season, but production codes suggest 13. Again, I'm aware production codes are only for internal purposes, but even then, the total number of episodes aired for seasons usually still match with the number of production codes that there are. For clarity in case this is confusing, look at List of Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn episodes. The first season has both 20 aired episodes and 20 production codes listed. The only exception to that that I can think of is when a single episode of double length has two production codes as then the number of episodes production-wise don't match with the number of episodes aired, such as the first seasons of Henry Danger and Bella and the Bulldogs. However, that is not the case here as 101 is missing entirely. I wonder if there was a skipped pilot. Amaury ( talk | contribs) 06:27, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
I do not get how the principle can be credited as a guess with her multiple appearances and large contribution to plots. You might as well credit other main characters as guest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.147.28 ( talk) 18:28, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
If you click through to her profile, you can see that Breanna Yde's Instagram account is verified, so I think it's OK as a source, she's not even the only one making the statement, she posted the page from a magazine. Tony Cavelero's Twitter account is verified too, and there's also Broadway World article, though it's not explicit about the "new episode" being part of season 2, but we have other sources for that. nyuszika7h ( talk) 13:36, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
I think the poster provides more value to readers, as we can use a single image to represent both the logo and the cast, and it's also acceptable to use that per
WP:TVIMAGE, which says "The image presented in the infobox of the main article should ideally be an intertitle shot of the show ... or a promotional poster used to represent the show itself
", basically giving the two options equal weight, but we can discuss it.
nyuszika7h (
talk) 12:24, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm thinking it's time we've considered re-discussing this and changing the image, using the one Zap2it here instead. The reason being is that the time on the poster is not 100% accurate. It started with airing at 8:30 PM, with the exception of the premiere following the KCAs 2016, but then changed to 9:00 PM when there were three premieres in one night—there were three premieres before then, but at that point Bella and the Bulldogs was in the 9:00 PM slot. Then it changed back to 8:30 PM one night—October 15—when it was airing by itself as new episodes of Henry Danger and Game Shakers went on an odd hiatus until November 5. Then it was at 9:30 PM on November 12 and 19. The former I don't remember why, but the latter was because of The Thundermans's special, pushing Game Shakers to 9:00 PM and School of Rock to 9:30 PM. Then it was back to 9:00 PM for the remaining season two episodes when it returned from its holiday hiatus back in January. Now it's back to 8:30 PM as of the premiere of season three. Although it will probably be back at 9:00 PM if it returns in September if there are three premieres. Any time there are three premieres, it's always the last to air. Amaury ( talk | contribs) 14:12, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm not a regular watcher of this show, but it looks like a "Recurring" cast section needs to be added by this point in the show's run. By my count, both Clark and Kale must surely qualify for that by this point. And there may be a few others... -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 16:14, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Actor | Episode count |
---|---|
Ivan Mallon | 9 |
Brec Bassinger | 8 |
Haley Powell | 5 |
Will Kindrachuk | 4 |
David Pressman | 3 |
Kendall Schmidt | 3 |
This keeps coming up, so I'm going to post to the Talk page about this: While the April 8, 2018 airing of this show does appear to be the "series finale", I can't find any reliable source that reports this as such, not even a Nickelodeon promo on YouTube. The "outlets" that are reporting this as the "series finale" are all WP:NOTRS for various reasons – the Nickalive blog, RenewCancelTV.com, Just Jared, etc. Until we get a WP:RS confirming that this is the series finale of the show we are stuck, and cannot report it as such here. -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 02:17, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
You never mentioned deadline in any edit summary or discussion before. You kept pushing yourself to make an edit with an unreliable source, which was blogspot. Not sure why you're implying as if you were using deadline all along when that was in fact not the case. Callmemirela 🍁 talk 12:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Not every source you believe is reliable, these people dont work for the network. They are likely right but not for sure. None of these sources you have provided us with are reliable. When we mean reliable, that means it needs to be form people that actually work on the show or form the network itself. The cast does not fall under that because they dont speak for the show. The network or the showrunners do. Also, do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. See WP:SYNTH. Keep this up and your gonna get yourself reported. Bang. ( talk) 17:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
To me Lab Rats: Elite Force is just on permanent haitis Brownspoof ( talk) 19:44, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks IJBall Brownspoof ( talk) 01:05, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
@ Amaury: This is what I am trying to get you to understand. Paramount Television produced for the damn series. The series is based on the film, which Paramount distributed. And then their television division made this series for Nickelodeon. Nickelodeon and Paramount are owned by the same companies. So there is no typical reason why neither of them cannot be here. PMTV is seen. In. The. End credits. And you say that Paramount is for their DVD releases. That has nothing to do with their television division’s distribution rights. What I am trying to tell you is: PMTV produced for the series although the show is based on the movie. And it shows PMTV in the end credits. So it should be included in the infobox. This is the same old stress I have to deal with every day. HappyINC ( 💬) 22:24, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
I've been following the edits where Passable Entertainment is added to the production company list in the infobox, and has always been reverted. I do see that in the end credits of many episodes, but have not followed what is and is not a production company where these appear in the end credits. Probably may not get it honestly, but if someone could explain this, I'd appreciate it. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 01:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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It seems like there's an episode missing as there is no episode with production code 101, so there are 12 episodes that aired in the first season, but production codes suggest 13. Again, I'm aware production codes are only for internal purposes, but even then, the total number of episodes aired for seasons usually still match with the number of production codes that there are. For clarity in case this is confusing, look at List of Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn episodes. The first season has both 20 aired episodes and 20 production codes listed. The only exception to that that I can think of is when a single episode of double length has two production codes as then the number of episodes production-wise don't match with the number of episodes aired, such as the first seasons of Henry Danger and Bella and the Bulldogs. However, that is not the case here as 101 is missing entirely. I wonder if there was a skipped pilot. Amaury ( talk | contribs) 06:27, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
I do not get how the principle can be credited as a guess with her multiple appearances and large contribution to plots. You might as well credit other main characters as guest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.147.28 ( talk) 18:28, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
If you click through to her profile, you can see that Breanna Yde's Instagram account is verified, so I think it's OK as a source, she's not even the only one making the statement, she posted the page from a magazine. Tony Cavelero's Twitter account is verified too, and there's also Broadway World article, though it's not explicit about the "new episode" being part of season 2, but we have other sources for that. nyuszika7h ( talk) 13:36, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
I think the poster provides more value to readers, as we can use a single image to represent both the logo and the cast, and it's also acceptable to use that per
WP:TVIMAGE, which says "The image presented in the infobox of the main article should ideally be an intertitle shot of the show ... or a promotional poster used to represent the show itself
", basically giving the two options equal weight, but we can discuss it.
nyuszika7h (
talk) 12:24, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm thinking it's time we've considered re-discussing this and changing the image, using the one Zap2it here instead. The reason being is that the time on the poster is not 100% accurate. It started with airing at 8:30 PM, with the exception of the premiere following the KCAs 2016, but then changed to 9:00 PM when there were three premieres in one night—there were three premieres before then, but at that point Bella and the Bulldogs was in the 9:00 PM slot. Then it changed back to 8:30 PM one night—October 15—when it was airing by itself as new episodes of Henry Danger and Game Shakers went on an odd hiatus until November 5. Then it was at 9:30 PM on November 12 and 19. The former I don't remember why, but the latter was because of The Thundermans's special, pushing Game Shakers to 9:00 PM and School of Rock to 9:30 PM. Then it was back to 9:00 PM for the remaining season two episodes when it returned from its holiday hiatus back in January. Now it's back to 8:30 PM as of the premiere of season three. Although it will probably be back at 9:00 PM if it returns in September if there are three premieres. Any time there are three premieres, it's always the last to air. Amaury ( talk | contribs) 14:12, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm not a regular watcher of this show, but it looks like a "Recurring" cast section needs to be added by this point in the show's run. By my count, both Clark and Kale must surely qualify for that by this point. And there may be a few others... -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 16:14, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Actor | Episode count |
---|---|
Ivan Mallon | 9 |
Brec Bassinger | 8 |
Haley Powell | 5 |
Will Kindrachuk | 4 |
David Pressman | 3 |
Kendall Schmidt | 3 |
This keeps coming up, so I'm going to post to the Talk page about this: While the April 8, 2018 airing of this show does appear to be the "series finale", I can't find any reliable source that reports this as such, not even a Nickelodeon promo on YouTube. The "outlets" that are reporting this as the "series finale" are all WP:NOTRS for various reasons – the Nickalive blog, RenewCancelTV.com, Just Jared, etc. Until we get a WP:RS confirming that this is the series finale of the show we are stuck, and cannot report it as such here. -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 02:17, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
You never mentioned deadline in any edit summary or discussion before. You kept pushing yourself to make an edit with an unreliable source, which was blogspot. Not sure why you're implying as if you were using deadline all along when that was in fact not the case. Callmemirela 🍁 talk 12:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Not every source you believe is reliable, these people dont work for the network. They are likely right but not for sure. None of these sources you have provided us with are reliable. When we mean reliable, that means it needs to be form people that actually work on the show or form the network itself. The cast does not fall under that because they dont speak for the show. The network or the showrunners do. Also, do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. See WP:SYNTH. Keep this up and your gonna get yourself reported. Bang. ( talk) 17:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
To me Lab Rats: Elite Force is just on permanent haitis Brownspoof ( talk) 19:44, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks IJBall Brownspoof ( talk) 01:05, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
@ Amaury: This is what I am trying to get you to understand. Paramount Television produced for the damn series. The series is based on the film, which Paramount distributed. And then their television division made this series for Nickelodeon. Nickelodeon and Paramount are owned by the same companies. So there is no typical reason why neither of them cannot be here. PMTV is seen. In. The. End credits. And you say that Paramount is for their DVD releases. That has nothing to do with their television division’s distribution rights. What I am trying to tell you is: PMTV produced for the series although the show is based on the movie. And it shows PMTV in the end credits. So it should be included in the infobox. This is the same old stress I have to deal with every day. HappyINC ( 💬) 22:24, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
I've been following the edits where Passable Entertainment is added to the production company list in the infobox, and has always been reverted. I do see that in the end credits of many episodes, but have not followed what is and is not a production company where these appear in the end credits. Probably may not get it honestly, but if someone could explain this, I'd appreciate it. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 01:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)