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The result of the debate was don't move. — Nightst a llion (?) Seen this already? 06:44, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I think it's the convention not to disambiguate unless necessary, or is there another "School Reunion" to avoid? Tim! ( talk) 15:54, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
{{spoiler}}
The Sun is reporting that K-9 is destroyed at the end of the story. Two questions:
-- Jay (Histrion) 15:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Well, The Sun was right about K-9 being there in the first place, and it's buzzing about OG at the moment, so we should add it, with the spoiler warning. Sean 21:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Can somebody wikilink the Krillitane bit to any info about them? JQF 18:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I noticed, during the "Coming Soon" trailers, several prominent (and bizarre) posters, all of which read "Eat More Chips!", something which no normal school would ever say (especially after Jamie's School Dinners)! Could this be related to the RTD quote? smurrayinch ester( User), ( Talk) 20:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Regarding Jamie's School Dinners: the website for the school states "We didn't need a TV Chef to tell us what to do in our canteen". -- Islomaniac 973 17:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
The trailers also reminded me quite a bit of Dark Season, RTD's first tv show (which scared the living daylights out of me at the time). Morwen - Talk 19:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
The website deffryvaleschool.org.uk is now active, none of the others listed are. -- Grand Edgemaster Talk 18:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
http://www.cheapserve.co.uk/members/09032/
http://www.cheapserve.co.uk/members/7974/
what was answer for going faster than light? I had difficulty getting the english there
That's a sitcom. I think the article should state 'cooks', as dinner ladies (two words, take note, Victoria Wood) are the ladies who supervise children during play time and lunch time. DavidFarmbrough 22:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Could I just say that you shouldn't really "redo" the plot, especially on a regular basis. People have worked hard to do it, and as you did with Tooth and Claw, you completely decimate what's been done before. Why not let other people have a go, and you just change individual sentences, like I do, for a change?-- Keycard ( talk) 08:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
[1] In the space of three edits. I rest my case.-- Keycard ( talk) 08:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
From a casual reader's point of view, it is an improvement. From the contributors' points of view, it's not because it mutilates their hard work and effort. And I do know that you're allowed to. I simply say that it's slightly unfair.-- Keycard ( talk) 12:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I think it really puts people off contributing when their addition is changed. It often feels it is done for the sake of doing it.-- RichardEast 12:54, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Time to re-open this disussion. From WP:DAB: "Disambiguation serves a single purpose: to let the reader choose among different pages that closely relate to various meanings of a particular term (some of which might logically utilize said term in a titular fashion). Please use them carefully and only when needed." (emphasis mine).
There is no point in specifying "Doctor Who" in the title as there are no other articles title "School Reunion." If and when those articles are written, that would be the time to disambiguate. Not now. -- MisterHand 04:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
This expression has cropped up a couple of times in DW articles, but it isn't a standard expression and doesn't even feature in the 'vanilla' wiki entry. So can we stop using it? Its film-buff language. Damiancorrigan 21:03, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Another mention - can an addition be put on Time Wars.
As the Doctor is going back and forth through time, will he not on occasion temporally/temporarily be coexisting with other Time Lords (or Time Ladies)? Jackiespeel 21:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
There has to be some knowledge that there were other Time Lords for "a random person/alien" to know that there is only one left.
I was pointing out that there was the possibilitiy of an anomaly - and I am not a Dr Who buff. Jackiespeel 21:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
We can deduce from this episode and S1 Dalek that Gallifrey's/Time Lords' end is prior to these two series/our present, but the Time Lords will appear from that planet's past at various points after the planet/their ending. Jack Harkness might just be more aware of his group - and as he meets Rose, who is not a Time Lord/Lady he may jump to conclusions.
I was pointing out a plot hole (for fanfic writers) rather than requesting original research (g).
Jackiespeel 22:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the following from the Notes section:
We'll definitely need a source for this one. There's no mention of this in either the "Confidential" ep or the commentary. -- MisterHand 22:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
If they had done this, they would have mentioned it in the commentary. IMO Tennant gives one of his best performances in this episode. DavidFarmbrough 11:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Appears to be the Bad Wolf of this series (appearing on a computer screen) - is someone doing an equivalent list. Is K-9 going to resurface? Jackiespeel 21:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
It seems weird in the Christmas Invasion the Prime Minister wasn't even supposed to know about it, but in this episode the name pops up on the screen. Since Christmas Invasion and School Reunion has Torchwood become official? (UNIT would have been better.) --
RichardEast
12:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that K-9 Mark III was ever a companion of the Doctor. Unlike Mark I or Mark II, Mark III was never featured in any official Doctor Who story, with exception of "The Five Doctors" and the spin-off (pilot), K-9 and company. Therefore I think it would be appropriate to call him a companion of Sarah Jane Smith, which means that Mark III is not the fifth companion to die (BTW, I do count one story characters like Sara Kingdom and Grace Holloway as companions). What are everyone's thoughts? ( Deej30 00:17, 2 May 2006 (UTC))
Well I did say that I do accept one story companions, like Sara Kingdom and Grace, as official companions. I guest if you put K-9 Mark III in the context of being a companion of the Doctor for just this story, then I would say let the note stay. However, if the note is edited, then some reference would need to be made that K-9 Mark III travelled with the Doctor when he dropped him off in the crate at Sarah's Croydon residence (seeing that School Reunion now establishes this as a fact) and also include Mark III's reference of the Doctor as his "Master." I think it would be necessary to include these edits in order to to distinguish K-9 as a companion verses a regular guest star. ( Deej30 12:02, 3 May 2006 (UTC))
Is K-9 regarded as being alive? If not, doesn't that make it hardware and therefore not actually a companion but a useful tool like the sonic screwdriver? Marky1981 14:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I think there is a lot of grounds to debate that Mark III and Mark IV are perhaps the same entity, meaning that Mark IV is a re-fit of MArk III. However, the same can not be sai of Mark I or Mark II. Mark I was created or acquired by Prof. Marinus (from 'The Invisible Enemy') long before he met the Doctor and he departed with Leela at the end of Invasion of Time. Mark II was assembled by the Fourth Doctor between the end of Invasion of Time and the beginning of The Ribos Operation and he left the series when Romana left the Doctor to remain in E-Space (another universe) at the end of 'Warrior's Gate.'
In short, I don't believe in the "one K-9 companion" theory. If Leela remained on Gallifery, and Mark I stayed with her, then he was probably destroyed in the Time War. Further, Mark II as far as we know is still in E-Space with Romana (according to the official televised stories and not recognizing the spin-off media accounts), because he was severally damaged and could only be repaired and function in E-Space. Moreover, at the beginning of Full Circle, the Doctor even tells Mark II "K-9 you can meet your twin" when he thought that they had returned to Gallifrey. There is too much evidence to suggest that Mark I and Mark II are not the same as Mark III or IV. The only way that this theory could be true is if all K-9's share the same consciousness and are connected some how in a manner like the "Borg Collective" (I apologize to anyone who might be offended by me using a Star Trek term in a Doctor Who disscussion board). However, there is no detailed evidence to support the Borg theory. ( Deej30 12:02, 3 May 2006 (UTC))
I added a couple of details about the abortive Krillitane attack outside the cafe. In case anyone wonders why the details are there, the exact reason why the Krillitane doesn't attack them is never explained, but isn't hard to work out once you notice that the Doctor raises his hand against it, which is the same hand that was dipped in the Krillitane oil earlier. This conclusion is too speculative, in my view, for me to be comfortable putting it in a note, so I put in those details so people can work it out for themselves. I welcome alternative suggestions. -- khaosworks ( talk • contribs) 02:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Elisabeth Sladen was twenty-seven years old when she appeared in Pyramids of Mars in 1975. However she said she was "from 1980", which would suggest a date of birth for Sarah of around 1953, which in turn suggests that the Sarah who appears in School Reunion (which we assume takes place in 2006 until someone checks the car tax discs) appears to be only about fifty-three! Unless of course Sarah gives her age at any time during the third and fourth Doctors' eras, which I don't think she does. DavidFarmbrough 14:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hopefully this helps Crescent ( talk) 19:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I thought that the equation was the "stasis paradigm" — the implication being that anyone who had mastered the equation would be able to put the cosmos into stasis and change whatever they wanted to. A bit like the ability of the Key to Time to "stop everything". What's the source for "Skasis"? — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, on the photos of the episode's making, there's one caption saying filming the Skasis Paradigm. See here.-- Keycard ( talk) 06:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
There is a reference to this quote from An Unearthly Child in this story. The Doctor says he is called John Smith and someone (I think Anthony Head) says that that is a common name for an uncommon man. Can anyone who has watched it more times than I remember the quote and who said it please? DavidFarmbrough 06:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually no. The sign reads: I. M. Foreman. ZarhanFastfire ( talk) 03:11, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
According to Aliens and Enemies, the phrase is actually spelt as above, and not as it was on the official website (and subtitles, possibly - I don't know). Which should be featured on the page?-- Keycard ( talk) 18:08, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Why were all the Computers wired into the same Electrical Plug? Did my Father do the wiring as he used to do stupid things like Wiring all the electrical in his living room into the same socket!
Because of the Krillitanes' MAGIC PLUG ABILITIES.
I recently added Elizabeth Sladen as Sarah Jane Smith and K9 to the companions list in the summary box, only for it to be removed. What do we think? Should they be included as companions? Personally I think that if they are not included, Mickey Smith should not be either, as although he featured prominently in this episode, he was not made an official companion until the end of the episode, and then travelled with the Doctor and Rose for the first time in the following episode, 'The Girl In The Fireplace'. Catalina 123 22:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
It is also debatable, I think, whether or not Captain Jack Harkness can be considered a companion for "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances". Whilst he plays a significant role, he doesn't actually join the TARDIS crew until the very end of "The Doctor Dances". Catalina 123 12:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Sarah Jane should be added to be a companion, since it is the same continuity and she was a companion, so she still is, regadless if she enters the TARDIS or not. As for Mickey Smith, he escaped the lair of the Nestene Conciousness by TARDIS travel in 'Rose', so is he a companion in this episode? Answer is no, because the Doctor doesn't see him as a companion. Neither other guests companions, like the family the doctor rescues in 'Fires of Pompeij'. Mickey was offered companionship in the end of 'World War III', he refuses then. But this clearly states that he is a companion from this point on, accepted by the Doctor. So, not traveling in the TARDIS should not be a reason to exclude SJS or K-9 since the Doctor sees them as companions (besindes, K-9 was most likely not manufactured in our time, so TARDIS-travel is the most likly scenario for him coming into SJS's posession, but that's just a site note). Heinrich k ( talk) 14:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
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I added a bit in the continuity section about the Doctor's comment about having regenerated 6 times since he last met Sarah instead of 5, and the Doctor mentioning that human's weren't allowed on Gallifrey possibly being related to Romana wanting non-Gallifreyans to be allowed to enter the Academy in the Gallifrey audio series. It was removed with this comment: "speculative fancruft - this is great for blogs or fan pages but not an encyclopedia also remember that books and radio plays are not canonical for all".
How was that any more crufty than quite a lot of information on Doctor Who-related articles? It's an observation on an error or oversight in continuity. The Gallifrey reference may have been a bit speculative but why remove the mention of the contradiction in continuity?-- Codenamecuckoo ( talk) 21:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
For this episode and his subsequent 3 appearances, Mickey is listed in the infoxes as "Companion" (which I agree with). However, this subsection is under the main section of "Starring", which Noel Clarke does not do for any of his appearances. I would remove him from that section, but I don't know how to have him as both a Companion and as a guest star. Any thoughts? Ophois ( talk) 19:46, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as Rose is credited as a companion in "Turn Left" without fulfilling the role as a companion, and since Sarah Jane is credited as a companion in "The Stolen Earth" and "Journey's End" also without fulfilling the role of companion, shouldn't she be labelled as a companion in this episode? Ophois ( talk) 17:14, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm just wondering if I was the only one who noticed that around the 36:20 minute mark, when all the kids are being released from the computers, there's a shot where they're all wearing headphones, and then a cut, then the next shot, they're all without headphones (and starting to move away from the desks). Now I know they've been made much smarter by the oil, but am wondering whether that adequately explains mass headphone removal? DebF —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.156.155 ( talk) 18:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
So, I bought the book “Doctor Who: The Essential Guide - Twelfth Doctor Edition”, on page 167 where it lists some of the Tenth Doctor companions it explicitly states that both Sarah Jane and K9 are companions in this story. Can we reach a consensus please?-- 82.132.246.251 ( talk) 23:26, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was don't move. — Nightst a llion (?) Seen this already? 06:44, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I think it's the convention not to disambiguate unless necessary, or is there another "School Reunion" to avoid? Tim! ( talk) 15:54, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
{{spoiler}}
The Sun is reporting that K-9 is destroyed at the end of the story. Two questions:
-- Jay (Histrion) 15:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Well, The Sun was right about K-9 being there in the first place, and it's buzzing about OG at the moment, so we should add it, with the spoiler warning. Sean 21:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Can somebody wikilink the Krillitane bit to any info about them? JQF 18:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I noticed, during the "Coming Soon" trailers, several prominent (and bizarre) posters, all of which read "Eat More Chips!", something which no normal school would ever say (especially after Jamie's School Dinners)! Could this be related to the RTD quote? smurrayinch ester( User), ( Talk) 20:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Regarding Jamie's School Dinners: the website for the school states "We didn't need a TV Chef to tell us what to do in our canteen". -- Islomaniac 973 17:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
The trailers also reminded me quite a bit of Dark Season, RTD's first tv show (which scared the living daylights out of me at the time). Morwen - Talk 19:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
The website deffryvaleschool.org.uk is now active, none of the others listed are. -- Grand Edgemaster Talk 18:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
http://www.cheapserve.co.uk/members/09032/
http://www.cheapserve.co.uk/members/7974/
what was answer for going faster than light? I had difficulty getting the english there
That's a sitcom. I think the article should state 'cooks', as dinner ladies (two words, take note, Victoria Wood) are the ladies who supervise children during play time and lunch time. DavidFarmbrough 22:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Could I just say that you shouldn't really "redo" the plot, especially on a regular basis. People have worked hard to do it, and as you did with Tooth and Claw, you completely decimate what's been done before. Why not let other people have a go, and you just change individual sentences, like I do, for a change?-- Keycard ( talk) 08:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
[1] In the space of three edits. I rest my case.-- Keycard ( talk) 08:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
From a casual reader's point of view, it is an improvement. From the contributors' points of view, it's not because it mutilates their hard work and effort. And I do know that you're allowed to. I simply say that it's slightly unfair.-- Keycard ( talk) 12:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I think it really puts people off contributing when their addition is changed. It often feels it is done for the sake of doing it.-- RichardEast 12:54, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Time to re-open this disussion. From WP:DAB: "Disambiguation serves a single purpose: to let the reader choose among different pages that closely relate to various meanings of a particular term (some of which might logically utilize said term in a titular fashion). Please use them carefully and only when needed." (emphasis mine).
There is no point in specifying "Doctor Who" in the title as there are no other articles title "School Reunion." If and when those articles are written, that would be the time to disambiguate. Not now. -- MisterHand 04:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
This expression has cropped up a couple of times in DW articles, but it isn't a standard expression and doesn't even feature in the 'vanilla' wiki entry. So can we stop using it? Its film-buff language. Damiancorrigan 21:03, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Another mention - can an addition be put on Time Wars.
As the Doctor is going back and forth through time, will he not on occasion temporally/temporarily be coexisting with other Time Lords (or Time Ladies)? Jackiespeel 21:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
There has to be some knowledge that there were other Time Lords for "a random person/alien" to know that there is only one left.
I was pointing out that there was the possibilitiy of an anomaly - and I am not a Dr Who buff. Jackiespeel 21:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
We can deduce from this episode and S1 Dalek that Gallifrey's/Time Lords' end is prior to these two series/our present, but the Time Lords will appear from that planet's past at various points after the planet/their ending. Jack Harkness might just be more aware of his group - and as he meets Rose, who is not a Time Lord/Lady he may jump to conclusions.
I was pointing out a plot hole (for fanfic writers) rather than requesting original research (g).
Jackiespeel 22:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the following from the Notes section:
We'll definitely need a source for this one. There's no mention of this in either the "Confidential" ep or the commentary. -- MisterHand 22:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
If they had done this, they would have mentioned it in the commentary. IMO Tennant gives one of his best performances in this episode. DavidFarmbrough 11:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Appears to be the Bad Wolf of this series (appearing on a computer screen) - is someone doing an equivalent list. Is K-9 going to resurface? Jackiespeel 21:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
It seems weird in the Christmas Invasion the Prime Minister wasn't even supposed to know about it, but in this episode the name pops up on the screen. Since Christmas Invasion and School Reunion has Torchwood become official? (UNIT would have been better.) --
RichardEast
12:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that K-9 Mark III was ever a companion of the Doctor. Unlike Mark I or Mark II, Mark III was never featured in any official Doctor Who story, with exception of "The Five Doctors" and the spin-off (pilot), K-9 and company. Therefore I think it would be appropriate to call him a companion of Sarah Jane Smith, which means that Mark III is not the fifth companion to die (BTW, I do count one story characters like Sara Kingdom and Grace Holloway as companions). What are everyone's thoughts? ( Deej30 00:17, 2 May 2006 (UTC))
Well I did say that I do accept one story companions, like Sara Kingdom and Grace, as official companions. I guest if you put K-9 Mark III in the context of being a companion of the Doctor for just this story, then I would say let the note stay. However, if the note is edited, then some reference would need to be made that K-9 Mark III travelled with the Doctor when he dropped him off in the crate at Sarah's Croydon residence (seeing that School Reunion now establishes this as a fact) and also include Mark III's reference of the Doctor as his "Master." I think it would be necessary to include these edits in order to to distinguish K-9 as a companion verses a regular guest star. ( Deej30 12:02, 3 May 2006 (UTC))
Is K-9 regarded as being alive? If not, doesn't that make it hardware and therefore not actually a companion but a useful tool like the sonic screwdriver? Marky1981 14:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I think there is a lot of grounds to debate that Mark III and Mark IV are perhaps the same entity, meaning that Mark IV is a re-fit of MArk III. However, the same can not be sai of Mark I or Mark II. Mark I was created or acquired by Prof. Marinus (from 'The Invisible Enemy') long before he met the Doctor and he departed with Leela at the end of Invasion of Time. Mark II was assembled by the Fourth Doctor between the end of Invasion of Time and the beginning of The Ribos Operation and he left the series when Romana left the Doctor to remain in E-Space (another universe) at the end of 'Warrior's Gate.'
In short, I don't believe in the "one K-9 companion" theory. If Leela remained on Gallifery, and Mark I stayed with her, then he was probably destroyed in the Time War. Further, Mark II as far as we know is still in E-Space with Romana (according to the official televised stories and not recognizing the spin-off media accounts), because he was severally damaged and could only be repaired and function in E-Space. Moreover, at the beginning of Full Circle, the Doctor even tells Mark II "K-9 you can meet your twin" when he thought that they had returned to Gallifrey. There is too much evidence to suggest that Mark I and Mark II are not the same as Mark III or IV. The only way that this theory could be true is if all K-9's share the same consciousness and are connected some how in a manner like the "Borg Collective" (I apologize to anyone who might be offended by me using a Star Trek term in a Doctor Who disscussion board). However, there is no detailed evidence to support the Borg theory. ( Deej30 12:02, 3 May 2006 (UTC))
I added a couple of details about the abortive Krillitane attack outside the cafe. In case anyone wonders why the details are there, the exact reason why the Krillitane doesn't attack them is never explained, but isn't hard to work out once you notice that the Doctor raises his hand against it, which is the same hand that was dipped in the Krillitane oil earlier. This conclusion is too speculative, in my view, for me to be comfortable putting it in a note, so I put in those details so people can work it out for themselves. I welcome alternative suggestions. -- khaosworks ( talk • contribs) 02:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Elisabeth Sladen was twenty-seven years old when she appeared in Pyramids of Mars in 1975. However she said she was "from 1980", which would suggest a date of birth for Sarah of around 1953, which in turn suggests that the Sarah who appears in School Reunion (which we assume takes place in 2006 until someone checks the car tax discs) appears to be only about fifty-three! Unless of course Sarah gives her age at any time during the third and fourth Doctors' eras, which I don't think she does. DavidFarmbrough 14:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hopefully this helps Crescent ( talk) 19:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I thought that the equation was the "stasis paradigm" — the implication being that anyone who had mastered the equation would be able to put the cosmos into stasis and change whatever they wanted to. A bit like the ability of the Key to Time to "stop everything". What's the source for "Skasis"? — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, on the photos of the episode's making, there's one caption saying filming the Skasis Paradigm. See here.-- Keycard ( talk) 06:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
There is a reference to this quote from An Unearthly Child in this story. The Doctor says he is called John Smith and someone (I think Anthony Head) says that that is a common name for an uncommon man. Can anyone who has watched it more times than I remember the quote and who said it please? DavidFarmbrough 06:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually no. The sign reads: I. M. Foreman. ZarhanFastfire ( talk) 03:11, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
According to Aliens and Enemies, the phrase is actually spelt as above, and not as it was on the official website (and subtitles, possibly - I don't know). Which should be featured on the page?-- Keycard ( talk) 18:08, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Why were all the Computers wired into the same Electrical Plug? Did my Father do the wiring as he used to do stupid things like Wiring all the electrical in his living room into the same socket!
Because of the Krillitanes' MAGIC PLUG ABILITIES.
I recently added Elizabeth Sladen as Sarah Jane Smith and K9 to the companions list in the summary box, only for it to be removed. What do we think? Should they be included as companions? Personally I think that if they are not included, Mickey Smith should not be either, as although he featured prominently in this episode, he was not made an official companion until the end of the episode, and then travelled with the Doctor and Rose for the first time in the following episode, 'The Girl In The Fireplace'. Catalina 123 22:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
It is also debatable, I think, whether or not Captain Jack Harkness can be considered a companion for "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances". Whilst he plays a significant role, he doesn't actually join the TARDIS crew until the very end of "The Doctor Dances". Catalina 123 12:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Sarah Jane should be added to be a companion, since it is the same continuity and she was a companion, so she still is, regadless if she enters the TARDIS or not. As for Mickey Smith, he escaped the lair of the Nestene Conciousness by TARDIS travel in 'Rose', so is he a companion in this episode? Answer is no, because the Doctor doesn't see him as a companion. Neither other guests companions, like the family the doctor rescues in 'Fires of Pompeij'. Mickey was offered companionship in the end of 'World War III', he refuses then. But this clearly states that he is a companion from this point on, accepted by the Doctor. So, not traveling in the TARDIS should not be a reason to exclude SJS or K-9 since the Doctor sees them as companions (besindes, K-9 was most likely not manufactured in our time, so TARDIS-travel is the most likly scenario for him coming into SJS's posession, but that's just a site note). Heinrich k ( talk) 14:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
This article's Good Article promotion has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of February 13, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:
If these changes are made in the next seven days article should be able to be promoted.
Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. Million_Moments ( talk) 19:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of February 13, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:
Good article. Further work could include expansion of the production section of the article should more material be availible to do so. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Million_Moments ( talk) 22:14, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I added a bit in the continuity section about the Doctor's comment about having regenerated 6 times since he last met Sarah instead of 5, and the Doctor mentioning that human's weren't allowed on Gallifrey possibly being related to Romana wanting non-Gallifreyans to be allowed to enter the Academy in the Gallifrey audio series. It was removed with this comment: "speculative fancruft - this is great for blogs or fan pages but not an encyclopedia also remember that books and radio plays are not canonical for all".
How was that any more crufty than quite a lot of information on Doctor Who-related articles? It's an observation on an error or oversight in continuity. The Gallifrey reference may have been a bit speculative but why remove the mention of the contradiction in continuity?-- Codenamecuckoo ( talk) 21:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
For this episode and his subsequent 3 appearances, Mickey is listed in the infoxes as "Companion" (which I agree with). However, this subsection is under the main section of "Starring", which Noel Clarke does not do for any of his appearances. I would remove him from that section, but I don't know how to have him as both a Companion and as a guest star. Any thoughts? Ophois ( talk) 19:46, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as Rose is credited as a companion in "Turn Left" without fulfilling the role as a companion, and since Sarah Jane is credited as a companion in "The Stolen Earth" and "Journey's End" also without fulfilling the role of companion, shouldn't she be labelled as a companion in this episode? Ophois ( talk) 17:14, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm just wondering if I was the only one who noticed that around the 36:20 minute mark, when all the kids are being released from the computers, there's a shot where they're all wearing headphones, and then a cut, then the next shot, they're all without headphones (and starting to move away from the desks). Now I know they've been made much smarter by the oil, but am wondering whether that adequately explains mass headphone removal? DebF —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.156.155 ( talk) 18:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
So, I bought the book “Doctor Who: The Essential Guide - Twelfth Doctor Edition”, on page 167 where it lists some of the Tenth Doctor companions it explicitly states that both Sarah Jane and K9 are companions in this story. Can we reach a consensus please?-- 82.132.246.251 ( talk) 23:26, 7 March 2022 (UTC)