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Can anybody substantiate the claims that Oprah and Leonardo DiCaprio are interested in this book? This looks more like an advertisement than an encyclopedic article about the book. Dzhastin 02:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Why Oprah and Leo DiCaprio are interested in ‘Scattershot’
To get published, they say, write a great book, for starters. Then it really helps to know someone. For David Lovelace, author of “Scattershot,” that someone came in the form of Bill Monahan, the Oscar-winning screenwriter of “The Departed.”
Lovelace’s wife, Roberta, knew Monahan from high school in Gloucester, Mass., and before he made it big, he spent some time at the Lovelace’s home while they were away, working on his novel “Lighthouse.”
After Lovelace wrote a few chapters of “Scattershot” and thought they looked pretty good, he sent them to Monahan.
“He said, ‘This is great; it’d make a great movie,’ and he sent it to an agent he knew,” Lovelace said. “That opened the door.”
From there came the book deal with Dutton and talk of a film. Monahan and Leonardo DiCaprio are both attached to the project, which in Hollywood parlance means they’re interested and little more. As Lovelace said, he’s not holding his breath.
“Bill is still looking for a studio,” he said. “It’s a huge rabbit hole that I don’t want to jump down right now.”
But buzz for “Scattershot” is already strong. Lovelace was on NPR’s “Talk of the Nation” Thursday, and the Oprah people are interested in having him on her show. For an author looking to publicize a book, it doesn’t get much better than that.
Somehow dzhastin has come to the above conclusion, that the idea that "'celebrities are interested in this project' is a line used by aspiring screenwriters to pick up girls at cocktail parties, not a verifiable statement." What is Dzhastin talking about? Where is this new policy of his? I am unable to communicate with Dzhastin so if someone else will tell me what is wrong with the following passage I would appreciate it:
Prior to the book's release, The Oprah Winfrey Show has shown interest in the memoir, and within the film industry there has been some interest on the part of actor Leonardo DiCaprio and writer Bill Monahan. [1] [2]
Isn't this a proper description of what has happened? Also, Dzhastin, not knowing at all what he's talking about apparently, thinks that David Lovelace is a screenwriter?!? This is totally bizarre. Once on a vending machine ( talk) 20:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
There are two claims here: interest by Oprah, interest by DiCaprio; and for each, two issues: Is it verifiable? Is it encyclopedic?
The answer to the first issue (is it verifiable?), is yes, for each claim. All comments about who refuses to read Wikipedia policies and who has no business to contribute aside ... Wikipedia: Verifiable says: "Material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, must be attributed to a reliable, published source." Vail Daily is a published source, specifically a mainstream newspaper. While that's at the lower end of the scale at Wikipedia:V#Reliable_sources, it is on that scale. And the article does not say "the author claims", so that should not be read into it. Considering that this sort of subject, a heartwrenching recent book, is exactly the sort of thing that The Oprah Winfrey Show does shows on, I don't think it's a particularly tendentious claim to require a higher standard than that.
As to the second issue, Dzhastin has a point. "Namedrop is interested in my book" really does seem more like gossip than stuff that belongs in an encyclopedia article, specifically because nothing could come of it. Frankly, I'd recommend replacing the Oprah interest with the comment that Lovelace already was on NPR’s Talk of the Nation, at a specific date, discussing the book, mentioned in the same paragraph in Vail Daily. That, at least, is concrete, it's an actual appearance, and not speculation. And for the DiCaprio interest, I'd change it to focus on the fact that a movie is in negotiations on being made from the book, with Monahan and DiCaprio. A book becoming a movie is of prime interest to an article on the book, which is what this is, and it has two sources, both Vail Daily, and Publisher's Weekly. PW is even a step higher on the WP:SOURCES scale, it's a magazine published by a reputable publishing house (136 year history). Note, however, that, unlike PW doesn't back the claim directly, merely states that Dutton, the book's publishing house, claims that a movie is being negotiated, to be written by Monahan, and to star DiCaprio. We should say as much. Note that E. P. Dutton isn't a fly-by-night outfit either. -- GRuban ( talk) 20:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
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Can anybody substantiate the claims that Oprah and Leonardo DiCaprio are interested in this book? This looks more like an advertisement than an encyclopedic article about the book. Dzhastin 02:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Why Oprah and Leo DiCaprio are interested in ‘Scattershot’
To get published, they say, write a great book, for starters. Then it really helps to know someone. For David Lovelace, author of “Scattershot,” that someone came in the form of Bill Monahan, the Oscar-winning screenwriter of “The Departed.”
Lovelace’s wife, Roberta, knew Monahan from high school in Gloucester, Mass., and before he made it big, he spent some time at the Lovelace’s home while they were away, working on his novel “Lighthouse.”
After Lovelace wrote a few chapters of “Scattershot” and thought they looked pretty good, he sent them to Monahan.
“He said, ‘This is great; it’d make a great movie,’ and he sent it to an agent he knew,” Lovelace said. “That opened the door.”
From there came the book deal with Dutton and talk of a film. Monahan and Leonardo DiCaprio are both attached to the project, which in Hollywood parlance means they’re interested and little more. As Lovelace said, he’s not holding his breath.
“Bill is still looking for a studio,” he said. “It’s a huge rabbit hole that I don’t want to jump down right now.”
But buzz for “Scattershot” is already strong. Lovelace was on NPR’s “Talk of the Nation” Thursday, and the Oprah people are interested in having him on her show. For an author looking to publicize a book, it doesn’t get much better than that.
Somehow dzhastin has come to the above conclusion, that the idea that "'celebrities are interested in this project' is a line used by aspiring screenwriters to pick up girls at cocktail parties, not a verifiable statement." What is Dzhastin talking about? Where is this new policy of his? I am unable to communicate with Dzhastin so if someone else will tell me what is wrong with the following passage I would appreciate it:
Prior to the book's release, The Oprah Winfrey Show has shown interest in the memoir, and within the film industry there has been some interest on the part of actor Leonardo DiCaprio and writer Bill Monahan. [1] [2]
Isn't this a proper description of what has happened? Also, Dzhastin, not knowing at all what he's talking about apparently, thinks that David Lovelace is a screenwriter?!? This is totally bizarre. Once on a vending machine ( talk) 20:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
There are two claims here: interest by Oprah, interest by DiCaprio; and for each, two issues: Is it verifiable? Is it encyclopedic?
The answer to the first issue (is it verifiable?), is yes, for each claim. All comments about who refuses to read Wikipedia policies and who has no business to contribute aside ... Wikipedia: Verifiable says: "Material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, must be attributed to a reliable, published source." Vail Daily is a published source, specifically a mainstream newspaper. While that's at the lower end of the scale at Wikipedia:V#Reliable_sources, it is on that scale. And the article does not say "the author claims", so that should not be read into it. Considering that this sort of subject, a heartwrenching recent book, is exactly the sort of thing that The Oprah Winfrey Show does shows on, I don't think it's a particularly tendentious claim to require a higher standard than that.
As to the second issue, Dzhastin has a point. "Namedrop is interested in my book" really does seem more like gossip than stuff that belongs in an encyclopedia article, specifically because nothing could come of it. Frankly, I'd recommend replacing the Oprah interest with the comment that Lovelace already was on NPR’s Talk of the Nation, at a specific date, discussing the book, mentioned in the same paragraph in Vail Daily. That, at least, is concrete, it's an actual appearance, and not speculation. And for the DiCaprio interest, I'd change it to focus on the fact that a movie is in negotiations on being made from the book, with Monahan and DiCaprio. A book becoming a movie is of prime interest to an article on the book, which is what this is, and it has two sources, both Vail Daily, and Publisher's Weekly. PW is even a step higher on the WP:SOURCES scale, it's a magazine published by a reputable publishing house (136 year history). Note, however, that, unlike PW doesn't back the claim directly, merely states that Dutton, the book's publishing house, claims that a movie is being negotiated, to be written by Monahan, and to star DiCaprio. We should say as much. Note that E. P. Dutton isn't a fly-by-night outfit either. -- GRuban ( talk) 20:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
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It's all old information that hasn't been rehashed. I removed it for those reasons. Any problems with that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caverty ( talk • contribs) 21:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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