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I'm looking for the best picture or any informations about the KAF's U-6 (Beaver). It seem that the KAF had 3 aircrafts.
But in 1971, during the viet cong's sapper attack at the Pochentong Air Base,at least 1 Beaver was destroyed.In 1972
at leat 1 Beaver was refurbished with a new engine.
http://www.khmerairforce.com/AAK-KAF/AVNK-AAK-KAF/Cambodia-Beaver-KAF.JPG
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The result of the move request was: Not moved, disambiguation page created at
Sandra Hill in the meantime.
No such user (
talk) 07:52, 11 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Sandra Hill (footballer) →
Sandra Hill – Sole Wikipedia main title header that bears this exact name, thus obviating the need for the parenthetical qualifier "(footballer)". Although Wikipedia does contain entries for two women surnamed "Hill" whose given name at birth was "Sandra" —
Sandy Hill (television personality) and
Sandy Hill (mountaineer) — both women are or have been celebrities whose stage name / pen name is "Sandy Hill" and neither one would be recognizable to the public as "Sandra Hill". A
hatnote atop the footballer's entry — For those with a similar name, see
Sandy Hill (disambiguation) — would attend to any possible uncertainties. —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs) 10:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting.Havelock Jones (
talk) 11:29, 21 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose both
Sandy Hill (mountaineer) and
Sandy Hill (television personality) are "Sandra Hill" and the views are 4,449 and 817 v only 32[
[1]] for this one. Even if the others are only occasionally called "Sandra Hill" its still unlikely the footballer would be primary. In other words even if the other 2 were only called "Sandra Hill" 1% of the time they would still be more likely than the footballer. Google also doesn't appear to show anything for the footballer. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 17:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment. It should be made clear that the nomination neither makes a claim that
Sandra Hill (footballer) is the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the
Sandy Hill disambiguation page nor that
Sandra Hill (footballer) is primary at all. If another woman named "Sandra Hill" achieves notability sufficient for creation of a Wikipedia article, this Sandra Hill should certainly have the parenthetical qualifier "(footballer)" restored.
However, it would be counterintuitive to compare the footballer Sandra Hill to two celebrities named "Sandy Hill" since those two women have never been referenced as "Sandra Hill", are not known to the public as "Sandra Hill" and no one would search for either of them under the name "Sandra Hill". As for the footballer, the only way to know that her entry exists is to be redirected to the
Sandy Hill dab page and peruse the listings there, most of which are for places, not people, although there is no indication that Sandra the footballer is known as "Sandy". —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs) 01:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Support per nom, which provides enough disambiguation between this page and others who are primarily known as Sandy Hill.
Seany91 (
talk) 07:23, 2 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Primarily known is not the same thing as primarily associated with. As noted even if the others were known as "Sandy" instead of "Sandra" 99% of the time the term with Sandra would not be primarily associated with the footballer. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 19:45, 2 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment. To put this nomination into perspective, the
Sandy Hill disambiguation page has 11 entries. Eight of those entries, under section header "Places", list actual sandy hills, i.e. geographical features named "Sandy Hill", none of which is also known as "Sandra Hill".
As for the remaining three entries, which are under header "Other uses", not "People", two entries list celebrity women whose professional name is "Sandy Hill" and who have never been known to the public as "Sandra Hill". That leaves a single, out-of-place entry for "
Sandra Hill (footballer)", who is not referenced as "Sandy", and would be more usefully handled via a hatnote.
Note: This discussion has been included in
WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves.
GiantSnowman 16:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose - absolutely not the PRIMARYTOIPIC. Instead
Sandra Hill should be turned into a standalone dab page.
GiantSnowman 17:00, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Support The logic behind the proposal appears to me to be impeccable. I think some opponents may not have fully understood the issues here.
PatGallacher (
talk) 22:58, 5 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Crouch, Swale, who says it all.
Narky Blert (
talk) 13:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Close as moot. I just realised that
Sandra Hill was created as a disambiguation page on 11 September 2021 by
User:Joeykai, who appears not to have been involved in this disussion. That structurally changes the nature of the perceived problem, as only
User:Narky Blert's comment was created after the new disambiguation page. From what I can infer, it looks much the same as what was argued for in the original nomination by
User:Roman Spinner. Narky Blert did a round-robin page swap with
Sandra Hill (disambiguation) on 12 September, about 36 hours later, and 23 minutes before posting here. Neither username appears in the history of
WP:RM/TR around that date, nor can I find anything around the start of September at
WP:RFD. So it is very difficult for me to trace the history from the start of this discussion, but I infer a disambiguation page substantially similar to the current one must have existed before 11/12 September.
85.67.32.244 (
talk) 13:53, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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I'm looking for the best picture or any informations about the KAF's U-6 (Beaver). It seem that the KAF had 3 aircrafts.
But in 1971, during the viet cong's sapper attack at the Pochentong Air Base,at least 1 Beaver was destroyed.In 1972
at leat 1 Beaver was refurbished with a new engine.
http://www.khmerairforce.com/AAK-KAF/AVNK-AAK-KAF/Cambodia-Beaver-KAF.JPG
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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Not moved, disambiguation page created at
Sandra Hill in the meantime.
No such user (
talk) 07:52, 11 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Sandra Hill (footballer) →
Sandra Hill – Sole Wikipedia main title header that bears this exact name, thus obviating the need for the parenthetical qualifier "(footballer)". Although Wikipedia does contain entries for two women surnamed "Hill" whose given name at birth was "Sandra" —
Sandy Hill (television personality) and
Sandy Hill (mountaineer) — both women are or have been celebrities whose stage name / pen name is "Sandy Hill" and neither one would be recognizable to the public as "Sandra Hill". A
hatnote atop the footballer's entry — For those with a similar name, see
Sandy Hill (disambiguation) — would attend to any possible uncertainties. —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs) 10:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting.Havelock Jones (
talk) 11:29, 21 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose both
Sandy Hill (mountaineer) and
Sandy Hill (television personality) are "Sandra Hill" and the views are 4,449 and 817 v only 32[
[1]] for this one. Even if the others are only occasionally called "Sandra Hill" its still unlikely the footballer would be primary. In other words even if the other 2 were only called "Sandra Hill" 1% of the time they would still be more likely than the footballer. Google also doesn't appear to show anything for the footballer. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 17:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment. It should be made clear that the nomination neither makes a claim that
Sandra Hill (footballer) is the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the
Sandy Hill disambiguation page nor that
Sandra Hill (footballer) is primary at all. If another woman named "Sandra Hill" achieves notability sufficient for creation of a Wikipedia article, this Sandra Hill should certainly have the parenthetical qualifier "(footballer)" restored.
However, it would be counterintuitive to compare the footballer Sandra Hill to two celebrities named "Sandy Hill" since those two women have never been referenced as "Sandra Hill", are not known to the public as "Sandra Hill" and no one would search for either of them under the name "Sandra Hill". As for the footballer, the only way to know that her entry exists is to be redirected to the
Sandy Hill dab page and peruse the listings there, most of which are for places, not people, although there is no indication that Sandra the footballer is known as "Sandy". —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs) 01:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Support per nom, which provides enough disambiguation between this page and others who are primarily known as Sandy Hill.
Seany91 (
talk) 07:23, 2 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Primarily known is not the same thing as primarily associated with. As noted even if the others were known as "Sandy" instead of "Sandra" 99% of the time the term with Sandra would not be primarily associated with the footballer. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 19:45, 2 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment. To put this nomination into perspective, the
Sandy Hill disambiguation page has 11 entries. Eight of those entries, under section header "Places", list actual sandy hills, i.e. geographical features named "Sandy Hill", none of which is also known as "Sandra Hill".
As for the remaining three entries, which are under header "Other uses", not "People", two entries list celebrity women whose professional name is "Sandy Hill" and who have never been known to the public as "Sandra Hill". That leaves a single, out-of-place entry for "
Sandra Hill (footballer)", who is not referenced as "Sandy", and would be more usefully handled via a hatnote.
Note: This discussion has been included in
WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves.
GiantSnowman 16:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose - absolutely not the PRIMARYTOIPIC. Instead
Sandra Hill should be turned into a standalone dab page.
GiantSnowman 17:00, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Support The logic behind the proposal appears to me to be impeccable. I think some opponents may not have fully understood the issues here.
PatGallacher (
talk) 22:58, 5 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Crouch, Swale, who says it all.
Narky Blert (
talk) 13:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Close as moot. I just realised that
Sandra Hill was created as a disambiguation page on 11 September 2021 by
User:Joeykai, who appears not to have been involved in this disussion. That structurally changes the nature of the perceived problem, as only
User:Narky Blert's comment was created after the new disambiguation page. From what I can infer, it looks much the same as what was argued for in the original nomination by
User:Roman Spinner. Narky Blert did a round-robin page swap with
Sandra Hill (disambiguation) on 12 September, about 36 hours later, and 23 minutes before posting here. Neither username appears in the history of
WP:RM/TR around that date, nor can I find anything around the start of September at
WP:RFD. So it is very difficult for me to trace the history from the start of this discussion, but I infer a disambiguation page substantially similar to the current one must have existed before 11/12 September.
85.67.32.244 (
talk) 13:53, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.