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The nickname for the SFV is “The Valley.” I’m not understanding why a user is trying to edit the page to say “the Valley”. This makes the page look like the nickname for the SFV is “Valley”, but the nickname is indeed “The Valley.”. Please explain your reasoning. Greeis6 ( talk) 04:07, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
While i understand your perspective, in Los Angeles “The Valley” is actually used as a nickname for the San Fernando Valley. Hence why the San Gabriel Valley is not referred to as “The Valley.” That nickname, in its entirety, is solely used for the SFV, it’s not a shortened version of it. Also, please use “Independant cities” sections of this talk page to discuss Calabasas. Thanks Greeis6 ( talk) 13:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
In a nickname sense, if you write “the Valley” it looks like you’re saying that the nickname is only “Valley.” Writing & bolding “The Valley” shows that “The” is included in the nickname. This is how the page was originally written, let’s wait for another user’s input before making this edit. Greeis6 ( talk) 14:37, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
You are not being very civil in your edits. Just because you think you’re right, doesn’t mean the page should be written that way. I have not reverted your other edits, only the ones in regards to the nickname. Again, since I disagree with your edits, the civil way to handle the matter is to leave the page as it was originally written (“The Valley”), until an admin gives input. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility Greeis6 ( talk) 15:29, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
Oh FFS - is this going to be another lame "The Beatles/the Beatles" dispute, with edit-warring and horrendously disproportionate nastiness? Everybody needs to take a step back. Acroterion (talk) 18:51, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Acroterion: It’s not that big of a deal whether or not it’s capital, but I think we can all agree that “the” should be in bold, since that shows that ‘’’the valley’’’ (in its entirety) is another name for ‘’’San Fernando Valley’’’. I don’t want to edit war, I want to reach consensus. And in regards to Calabasas, many many months ago when this page was edited, we had already discussed and agreed on removing Calabasas, Hidden Hills, and Glendale from this page. The map located right beside the “independent cities” section doesn’t highlight Calabasas at all, and a photo of Calabasas clearly shows it is in mountains and not within the valley. Greeis6 ( talk) 19:18, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
@ BeenAroundAWhile: Okay, then let's agree on lowercasing "the". Can we all agree on keeping "the Valley" in bold? Greeis6 ( talk) 22:36, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
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Remove Calabasas from /info/en/?search=San_Fernando_Valley#Incorporated_cities_(independent)%5B1%5D Some sources say Calabasas is part of the valley, whereas others do not. However, the sources on this wikipedia page, Calabasas’ wikipedia page, as well as the external sources in the article, and the map located right in this section, does not include Calabasas, so I think it’s better left out, to avoid confusion from different sources. Greeis6 ( talk) 17:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
@ 91.122.13.30: @ Fettlemap: @ Bbb23: How about this for the "Incorporated cities" section:
Municipalities and neighborhoods
Communities of the Valley as delineated by the Los Angeles Times[32]
Incorporated cities (independent) [1]
Los Angeles
Burbank
San Fernando
Glendale*
Calabasas**
Hidden Hills**
Unincorporated communities[1]
Universal City
West Chatsworth
City of Los Angeles neighborhoods of the San Fernando Valley[34] Arleta Canoga Park Chatsworth Encino Granada Hills Lake Balboa Lake View Terrace Mission Hills NoHo Arts District North Hills North Hollywood Northridge Pacoima Panorama City Porter Ranch Reseda Shadow Hills+ Sherman Oaks Sherwood Forest Studio City Sun Valley Sylmar Tarzana Toluca Lake Toluca Terrace Toluca Woods Valley Glen Valley Village Van Nuys Warner Center West Hills Winnetka Woodland Hills
+ These communities are also included in the Crescenta Valley.
* Glendale is sometimes classified as being part of the Verdugos. [2] ** These cities are sometimes classified as being part of the Santa Monica Mountains. [3] [4]
Greeis6 ( talk) 01:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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If anyone is near a half-decent stretch of the Orange Line Bikeway it would be lovely to get some photos on Wikimedia Commons that we could use for illustration. TIA jengod ( talk) 14:40, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
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The nickname for the SFV is “The Valley.” I’m not understanding why a user is trying to edit the page to say “the Valley”. This makes the page look like the nickname for the SFV is “Valley”, but the nickname is indeed “The Valley.”. Please explain your reasoning. Greeis6 ( talk) 04:07, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
While i understand your perspective, in Los Angeles “The Valley” is actually used as a nickname for the San Fernando Valley. Hence why the San Gabriel Valley is not referred to as “The Valley.” That nickname, in its entirety, is solely used for the SFV, it’s not a shortened version of it. Also, please use “Independant cities” sections of this talk page to discuss Calabasas. Thanks Greeis6 ( talk) 13:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
In a nickname sense, if you write “the Valley” it looks like you’re saying that the nickname is only “Valley.” Writing & bolding “The Valley” shows that “The” is included in the nickname. This is how the page was originally written, let’s wait for another user’s input before making this edit. Greeis6 ( talk) 14:37, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
You are not being very civil in your edits. Just because you think you’re right, doesn’t mean the page should be written that way. I have not reverted your other edits, only the ones in regards to the nickname. Again, since I disagree with your edits, the civil way to handle the matter is to leave the page as it was originally written (“The Valley”), until an admin gives input. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility Greeis6 ( talk) 15:29, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
Oh FFS - is this going to be another lame "The Beatles/the Beatles" dispute, with edit-warring and horrendously disproportionate nastiness? Everybody needs to take a step back. Acroterion (talk) 18:51, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Acroterion: It’s not that big of a deal whether or not it’s capital, but I think we can all agree that “the” should be in bold, since that shows that ‘’’the valley’’’ (in its entirety) is another name for ‘’’San Fernando Valley’’’. I don’t want to edit war, I want to reach consensus. And in regards to Calabasas, many many months ago when this page was edited, we had already discussed and agreed on removing Calabasas, Hidden Hills, and Glendale from this page. The map located right beside the “independent cities” section doesn’t highlight Calabasas at all, and a photo of Calabasas clearly shows it is in mountains and not within the valley. Greeis6 ( talk) 19:18, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
@ BeenAroundAWhile: Okay, then let's agree on lowercasing "the". Can we all agree on keeping "the Valley" in bold? Greeis6 ( talk) 22:36, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
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Remove Calabasas from /info/en/?search=San_Fernando_Valley#Incorporated_cities_(independent)%5B1%5D Some sources say Calabasas is part of the valley, whereas others do not. However, the sources on this wikipedia page, Calabasas’ wikipedia page, as well as the external sources in the article, and the map located right in this section, does not include Calabasas, so I think it’s better left out, to avoid confusion from different sources. Greeis6 ( talk) 17:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
@ 91.122.13.30: @ Fettlemap: @ Bbb23: How about this for the "Incorporated cities" section:
Municipalities and neighborhoods
Communities of the Valley as delineated by the Los Angeles Times[32]
Incorporated cities (independent) [1]
Los Angeles
Burbank
San Fernando
Glendale*
Calabasas**
Hidden Hills**
Unincorporated communities[1]
Universal City
West Chatsworth
City of Los Angeles neighborhoods of the San Fernando Valley[34] Arleta Canoga Park Chatsworth Encino Granada Hills Lake Balboa Lake View Terrace Mission Hills NoHo Arts District North Hills North Hollywood Northridge Pacoima Panorama City Porter Ranch Reseda Shadow Hills+ Sherman Oaks Sherwood Forest Studio City Sun Valley Sylmar Tarzana Toluca Lake Toluca Terrace Toluca Woods Valley Glen Valley Village Van Nuys Warner Center West Hills Winnetka Woodland Hills
+ These communities are also included in the Crescenta Valley.
* Glendale is sometimes classified as being part of the Verdugos. [2] ** These cities are sometimes classified as being part of the Santa Monica Mountains. [3] [4]
Greeis6 ( talk) 01:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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If anyone is near a half-decent stretch of the Orange Line Bikeway it would be lovely to get some photos on Wikimedia Commons that we could use for illustration. TIA jengod ( talk) 14:40, 13 August 2022 (UTC)