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What a mess, after the Sanātan Dhrama page was created. See also Talk:Sanātan Dharma. I've moved the Sanātan Dharma on Sanatana Dharma to this page - back to where it was a long time ago. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:45, 5 July 2021 (UTC) −−−−−−−−−−−−−− Many theory found via vedas it says it is the only 1 relegion that created by god. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.124.15.170 ( talk) 17:16, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
First correct the spelling of religion. Harish infinity ( talk) 16:37, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
There is an on-going edit-war over whether this subject refers to Dharmic Religions in whole including Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism which have Dharma as key concept. The edit war must stop.
While I restored the content, I have no opinion on including it. I thought I was reverting simple vandalism that had removed what appeared to be a cited statement. Please discuss here and come to a consensus before restoring or removing that content again. Toddst1 ( talk) 20:05, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
For long, Hindu society has looked upon these three religious groups as their own. From theologians to laymen, the refrain that is commonly heard is: They (Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists) are part of Sanatana Dharma. Nothing could be farther from the truth.) and the contested text does not summarize the content of the article; see also this sentence from the body of the article: "Today, Sanatana Dharma is associated only with Hinduism." The suggestion that Sanathana Dharma includes Buddhism and Jainism is typical for Hindu nationalists, as is the term "Dharmic religions." It started with this edit by a user who's blocked now, as are a number of accounts who restored this info. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 04:40, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Sanatana dharma is different from Hinduism. Hinduism include everyone who consider themselves Hindus whether they are religious/dharmic or adharmic/irreligious who use hindu as a geographical or cultural identity. Meanwhile Samajists like Arya samaj and brahmo samaj are rival of sanatanis who separated themselves from sanatan dharm. They all were united under the umbrella term Hinduism. There are non-sanatani Tribals also who are part of sanatana dharma. Traditionalist or some orthodox religious hindus call their religion as sanatan dharm and they are in large numbers but it doesn't mean sanatan dharm is Hinduism. Hinduism is a totally different concept and identity. Mr.nothing anonymous ( talk) 16:50, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
The original lead said:
Sanātana Dharma ( Devanagari: सनातन धर्म, meaning "eternal dharma", "eternal order") [1] many Hindus refer to Hinduism as Sanātana Dharma and it is used in Hindi alongside the more common Hindu Dharm ( हिन्दू धर्म). [2] [3]
References
- ^ "Sanatana dharma | Hinduism". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2021-07-04.
- ^ Rajarajan, R. K. K. (January 2020). "Drāviḍian/Tamil Concept of Religion is sanātanadharma a Religion?". Into the Nuances of Culture. Essays on Culture Studies.
- ^ Lester R. Kurtz (2007), Gods in the global village: the world's religions in sociological perspective, Pine Forge Press, 2007, p. 49, ISBN 9781412927154,
... Hinduism — or Sanatana Dharma, as some believers prefer to call it — is askewed now in religious tradition and the remenants of the Truth of it is what is being talked about here. It now encompass layers of complex deposits from many different cultures over the centuries. Its remarkable diversity and doctrinal tolerance ...
In this edit Reo kwon changed it to:
Sanātana Dharma ( Devanagari: सनातन धर्म, meaning "eternal dharma", "eternal order") [1] is an endonym used by Hindus to refer to Hinduism. It refers to the “eternal” truth and teachings of Hinduism. It can also be translated as “the natural and eternal way to live". The term used in Indian languages alongside the more common Hindu Dharma. [2] [3] Sanatana Dharma can also denote the the list of 'eternal' or absolute duties and practices that all Hindus must comply with. [1] [4]
References
- ^ a b "Sanatana dharma | Hinduism". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2021-07-04.
- ^ Rajarajan, R. K. K. (January 2020). "Drāviḍian/Tamil Concept of Religion is sanātanadharma a Religion?". Into the Nuances of Culture. Essays on Culture Studies.
- ^ Lester R. Kurtz (2007), Gods in the global village: the world's religions in sociological perspective, Pine Forge Press, 2007, p. 49, ISBN 9781412927154,
... Hinduism — or Sanatana Dharma, as some believers prefer to call it — is askewed now in religious tradition and the remenants of the Truth of it is what is being talked about here. It now encompass layers of complex deposits from many different cultures over the centuries. Its remarkable diversity and doctrinal tolerance ...- ^ "What is Sanatana Dharma?". Yogapedia. Retrieved 2022-02-18.
I fail to see how "many Hindus" changed to "used by Hindus", and what the WP:SPS citation 2 and Yogapedia are doing here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 20:28, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
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My edit request is to change "the alternative word for Hinduism is Sanatan Dharma" to "Hinduism is the alternative name to "Sanatan Dharma" Prachi648 ( talk) 21:46, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Balajijagadesh: diff is problematic for multiple reasons: it's WP:UNDUE; the source in not WP:RS; and the WP:LEAD summarizes the article, which is not the case here. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 15:59, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Sanatana Dharma refers to being in-tune with eternal laws. It has nothing to do with religion. It has nothing to do with philosophy. This is why this whole beginning is totally wrong. 2A02:810D:44C0:1EA8:60B4:8E1C:F03A:B197 ( talk) 05:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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What a mess, after the Sanātan Dhrama page was created. See also Talk:Sanātan Dharma. I've moved the Sanātan Dharma on Sanatana Dharma to this page - back to where it was a long time ago. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:45, 5 July 2021 (UTC) −−−−−−−−−−−−−− Many theory found via vedas it says it is the only 1 relegion that created by god. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.124.15.170 ( talk) 17:16, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
First correct the spelling of religion. Harish infinity ( talk) 16:37, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
There is an on-going edit-war over whether this subject refers to Dharmic Religions in whole including Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism which have Dharma as key concept. The edit war must stop.
While I restored the content, I have no opinion on including it. I thought I was reverting simple vandalism that had removed what appeared to be a cited statement. Please discuss here and come to a consensus before restoring or removing that content again. Toddst1 ( talk) 20:05, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
For long, Hindu society has looked upon these three religious groups as their own. From theologians to laymen, the refrain that is commonly heard is: They (Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists) are part of Sanatana Dharma. Nothing could be farther from the truth.) and the contested text does not summarize the content of the article; see also this sentence from the body of the article: "Today, Sanatana Dharma is associated only with Hinduism." The suggestion that Sanathana Dharma includes Buddhism and Jainism is typical for Hindu nationalists, as is the term "Dharmic religions." It started with this edit by a user who's blocked now, as are a number of accounts who restored this info. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 04:40, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Sanatana dharma is different from Hinduism. Hinduism include everyone who consider themselves Hindus whether they are religious/dharmic or adharmic/irreligious who use hindu as a geographical or cultural identity. Meanwhile Samajists like Arya samaj and brahmo samaj are rival of sanatanis who separated themselves from sanatan dharm. They all were united under the umbrella term Hinduism. There are non-sanatani Tribals also who are part of sanatana dharma. Traditionalist or some orthodox religious hindus call their religion as sanatan dharm and they are in large numbers but it doesn't mean sanatan dharm is Hinduism. Hinduism is a totally different concept and identity. Mr.nothing anonymous ( talk) 16:50, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
The original lead said:
Sanātana Dharma ( Devanagari: सनातन धर्म, meaning "eternal dharma", "eternal order") [1] many Hindus refer to Hinduism as Sanātana Dharma and it is used in Hindi alongside the more common Hindu Dharm ( हिन्दू धर्म). [2] [3]
References
- ^ "Sanatana dharma | Hinduism". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2021-07-04.
- ^ Rajarajan, R. K. K. (January 2020). "Drāviḍian/Tamil Concept of Religion is sanātanadharma a Religion?". Into the Nuances of Culture. Essays on Culture Studies.
- ^ Lester R. Kurtz (2007), Gods in the global village: the world's religions in sociological perspective, Pine Forge Press, 2007, p. 49, ISBN 9781412927154,
... Hinduism — or Sanatana Dharma, as some believers prefer to call it — is askewed now in religious tradition and the remenants of the Truth of it is what is being talked about here. It now encompass layers of complex deposits from many different cultures over the centuries. Its remarkable diversity and doctrinal tolerance ...
In this edit Reo kwon changed it to:
Sanātana Dharma ( Devanagari: सनातन धर्म, meaning "eternal dharma", "eternal order") [1] is an endonym used by Hindus to refer to Hinduism. It refers to the “eternal” truth and teachings of Hinduism. It can also be translated as “the natural and eternal way to live". The term used in Indian languages alongside the more common Hindu Dharma. [2] [3] Sanatana Dharma can also denote the the list of 'eternal' or absolute duties and practices that all Hindus must comply with. [1] [4]
References
- ^ a b "Sanatana dharma | Hinduism". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2021-07-04.
- ^ Rajarajan, R. K. K. (January 2020). "Drāviḍian/Tamil Concept of Religion is sanātanadharma a Religion?". Into the Nuances of Culture. Essays on Culture Studies.
- ^ Lester R. Kurtz (2007), Gods in the global village: the world's religions in sociological perspective, Pine Forge Press, 2007, p. 49, ISBN 9781412927154,
... Hinduism — or Sanatana Dharma, as some believers prefer to call it — is askewed now in religious tradition and the remenants of the Truth of it is what is being talked about here. It now encompass layers of complex deposits from many different cultures over the centuries. Its remarkable diversity and doctrinal tolerance ...- ^ "What is Sanatana Dharma?". Yogapedia. Retrieved 2022-02-18.
I fail to see how "many Hindus" changed to "used by Hindus", and what the WP:SPS citation 2 and Yogapedia are doing here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 20:28, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
My edit request is to change "the alternative word for Hinduism is Sanatan Dharma" to "Hinduism is the alternative name to "Sanatan Dharma" Prachi648 ( talk) 21:46, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Balajijagadesh: diff is problematic for multiple reasons: it's WP:UNDUE; the source in not WP:RS; and the WP:LEAD summarizes the article, which is not the case here. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 15:59, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Sanatana Dharma refers to being in-tune with eternal laws. It has nothing to do with religion. It has nothing to do with philosophy. This is why this whole beginning is totally wrong. 2A02:810D:44C0:1EA8:60B4:8E1C:F03A:B197 ( talk) 05:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)