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Some recent edits suggest that they are based on the assumption that because homosexuality is against standard Orthodox belief, that no one who supports gay rights or engages in gay behavior can be Orthodox. This is a form of the No true Scotsman fallacy. We cannot discount someone as Orthodox just because they violate an individual law or fail to support a belief. One might argue that their failures, sins, or variances make them a poor Orthodox Jew, but that's quite different from them not being one at all. - Nat Gertler ( talk) 03:06, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
The Friedrich Naumann Foundation is described in Wikipedia as a liberal German organization and the poll was of an extremely limited number of people. Removed as not credible. The other information was about Israel, not Judaism. Z554 ( talk) 08:48, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
I removed the section on Midrash because it's unsourced. The citations it brings do not actually say what that section claimed. Genesis Rabbah says the generation of the Flood was destroyed because they wrote gemumsiot for men and beasts. Leviticus Rabbah says the generation of the Flood was destroyed because they wrote gomsiot for men and women. Neither of them says anything about writing anything for men and other men, and gemumsiot has also been translated as sexual songs, as in songs that would be sung by an audience watching sexual activity. I didn't write that in the article itself, because that's equally unsourced. You have to know the material. - Lisa ( talk - contribs) 22:36, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
this is borderline ridiculous. someone typed out that the "traditional view is that same-sex marriage is categorically forbidden by the Torah" and that this position is held by REFORM JUDAISM?? the judaist denomination that excercises religious same-sex marriage? even pew research shows that reform Judaism supports same-sex marriage. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/21/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/ https://rac.org/lgbtq-rights-and-position-reform-movement https://reformjudaism.org/learning/answers-jewish-questions/my-partner-and-i-are-planning-our-same-sex-wedding-will-rabbi MianMianBaoBao ( talk) 23:41, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Some recent edits suggest that they are based on the assumption that because homosexuality is against standard Orthodox belief, that no one who supports gay rights or engages in gay behavior can be Orthodox. This is a form of the No true Scotsman fallacy. We cannot discount someone as Orthodox just because they violate an individual law or fail to support a belief. One might argue that their failures, sins, or variances make them a poor Orthodox Jew, but that's quite different from them not being one at all. - Nat Gertler ( talk) 03:06, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
The Friedrich Naumann Foundation is described in Wikipedia as a liberal German organization and the poll was of an extremely limited number of people. Removed as not credible. The other information was about Israel, not Judaism. Z554 ( talk) 08:48, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
I removed the section on Midrash because it's unsourced. The citations it brings do not actually say what that section claimed. Genesis Rabbah says the generation of the Flood was destroyed because they wrote gemumsiot for men and beasts. Leviticus Rabbah says the generation of the Flood was destroyed because they wrote gomsiot for men and women. Neither of them says anything about writing anything for men and other men, and gemumsiot has also been translated as sexual songs, as in songs that would be sung by an audience watching sexual activity. I didn't write that in the article itself, because that's equally unsourced. You have to know the material. - Lisa ( talk - contribs) 22:36, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
this is borderline ridiculous. someone typed out that the "traditional view is that same-sex marriage is categorically forbidden by the Torah" and that this position is held by REFORM JUDAISM?? the judaist denomination that excercises religious same-sex marriage? even pew research shows that reform Judaism supports same-sex marriage. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/21/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/ https://rac.org/lgbtq-rights-and-position-reform-movement https://reformjudaism.org/learning/answers-jewish-questions/my-partner-and-i-are-planning-our-same-sex-wedding-will-rabbi MianMianBaoBao ( talk) 23:41, 29 May 2022 (UTC)