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The page lacks one important detail. I'd like to hear clarifications from experts on the matter of whether the nature of the contents, i.e. salt or pepper, may be deduced from the hole arrangement on each shaker. In an argument with a Polish colleague I contended that, at least in Western Europe and the North America, the salt would typically come from the single holed shaker, and pepper from the multiple holed container (notwithstanding such novelties as patterns of holes in the shape of 'S' and 'P'). At the time we were having breakfast at a hotel in Poland, where on all tables the hole arrangements were reversed from my previous experience while travelling. Since my companion declared he'd never known any other arrangement, I wondered whether in Slavic lands, or perhaps in the former Eastern Bloc, there was an reversed tradition in shaker holes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.30.154.84 ( talk) 07:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Update: I've now discovered that Germans also believe the single hole to imply pepper, and multiple to imply salt, just like my Polish colleague.
Having visited Moscow, I found single hole shakers contained Pepper and Multiple Holes contained Salt. In contrast, being from the UK, I was brought up with single hole for Salt and Multiple for Pepper - where Salt flow out of the shaker was more rapid through just one hole when compared to Pepper though multiple holes. 81.211.8.2 ( talk) 19:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)Mark
I just {{fact}}-tagged the statement that usage of salt mills is declining. I'm not trying to be hardcore here, but I thought that the opposite was the case -- that use of tabletop salt mills was becoming more common, and that they were perhaps even a recent fad -- but I can't seem to find any references to their history. -- Thinking of England ( talk) 03:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Besides the dish (a meat stew), what is a pepperpot or pepper pot? Wiktionary suggests that it is a synonym for pepper shaker, but while I can't find a good reference, other usages suggest that it is synonymous with pepper grinder. (My hunch is that it is an alliterative term meant to accompany salt shaker or salt cellar, but I don't know if it is most often used to refer to a pepper shaker or a pepper mill.) The pepperpot disambiguation page lists several things that are named due to their resemblance to pepperpots, but does not explain what one is. -- Thinking of England ( talk) 03:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Removed a reference from end of sentence 1, which describes the purpose of salt and pepper shakers. The source was a website that no longer showed the pertinent info. I don't think a citation is necessary for this information (see citation guide), so I didn't replace it. Richigi ( talk) 16:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Removed the following bracketed text
used to transmit cultural perspectives about race, (friendship), and other cultural values.
The statement was sourced but the source turned out to be a children's picture book. Presumably the editor drew the conclusion from an incident therein...even if the source were something less quaint, it would still constitute original research. Richigi ( talk) 18:49, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
I came to this article looking for information on the infamous "third shaker" people report as extant in some antique dining sets - salt, pepper, and a mystery third, whom no-one can remember or knows what for.
I'm surprised there's no coverage of whether it's apocryphal or not here; granted, snopes throws up no results. What I can find seems to be an entry in Bill Bryson's book At Home, published in 2010; on tumblr, someone posted a minor investigation with some sources - it may have been mustard, it may have been sugar. However, this source raises the fact that it might have just been...vinegar. Or sugar sometimes. Or mustard, depending on what you wanted.
I'll have a look into At Home, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was apocryphal that "no-one knew what it was for"; if anyone else has any thoughts, please do chime in.-- Ineffablebookkeeper ( talk) ({{ ping}} me!) 22:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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The page lacks one important detail. I'd like to hear clarifications from experts on the matter of whether the nature of the contents, i.e. salt or pepper, may be deduced from the hole arrangement on each shaker. In an argument with a Polish colleague I contended that, at least in Western Europe and the North America, the salt would typically come from the single holed shaker, and pepper from the multiple holed container (notwithstanding such novelties as patterns of holes in the shape of 'S' and 'P'). At the time we were having breakfast at a hotel in Poland, where on all tables the hole arrangements were reversed from my previous experience while travelling. Since my companion declared he'd never known any other arrangement, I wondered whether in Slavic lands, or perhaps in the former Eastern Bloc, there was an reversed tradition in shaker holes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.30.154.84 ( talk) 07:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Update: I've now discovered that Germans also believe the single hole to imply pepper, and multiple to imply salt, just like my Polish colleague.
Having visited Moscow, I found single hole shakers contained Pepper and Multiple Holes contained Salt. In contrast, being from the UK, I was brought up with single hole for Salt and Multiple for Pepper - where Salt flow out of the shaker was more rapid through just one hole when compared to Pepper though multiple holes. 81.211.8.2 ( talk) 19:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)Mark
I just {{fact}}-tagged the statement that usage of salt mills is declining. I'm not trying to be hardcore here, but I thought that the opposite was the case -- that use of tabletop salt mills was becoming more common, and that they were perhaps even a recent fad -- but I can't seem to find any references to their history. -- Thinking of England ( talk) 03:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Besides the dish (a meat stew), what is a pepperpot or pepper pot? Wiktionary suggests that it is a synonym for pepper shaker, but while I can't find a good reference, other usages suggest that it is synonymous with pepper grinder. (My hunch is that it is an alliterative term meant to accompany salt shaker or salt cellar, but I don't know if it is most often used to refer to a pepper shaker or a pepper mill.) The pepperpot disambiguation page lists several things that are named due to their resemblance to pepperpots, but does not explain what one is. -- Thinking of England ( talk) 03:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Removed a reference from end of sentence 1, which describes the purpose of salt and pepper shakers. The source was a website that no longer showed the pertinent info. I don't think a citation is necessary for this information (see citation guide), so I didn't replace it. Richigi ( talk) 16:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Removed the following bracketed text
used to transmit cultural perspectives about race, (friendship), and other cultural values.
The statement was sourced but the source turned out to be a children's picture book. Presumably the editor drew the conclusion from an incident therein...even if the source were something less quaint, it would still constitute original research. Richigi ( talk) 18:49, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
I came to this article looking for information on the infamous "third shaker" people report as extant in some antique dining sets - salt, pepper, and a mystery third, whom no-one can remember or knows what for.
I'm surprised there's no coverage of whether it's apocryphal or not here; granted, snopes throws up no results. What I can find seems to be an entry in Bill Bryson's book At Home, published in 2010; on tumblr, someone posted a minor investigation with some sources - it may have been mustard, it may have been sugar. However, this source raises the fact that it might have just been...vinegar. Or sugar sometimes. Or mustard, depending on what you wanted.
I'll have a look into At Home, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was apocryphal that "no-one knew what it was for"; if anyone else has any thoughts, please do chime in.-- Ineffablebookkeeper ( talk) ({{ ping}} me!) 22:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)