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There used to be many locations all over Indiana. Now there are only five, and they are concentrated in Indianapolis. A few of them were named Preston's Safeway, though those locations have closed. I can't seem to find any history on these stores. I was always under the impression that they were once part of the national chain, but through mergers and sell offs, somehow are no longer affiliated with the national chain. But I have no sources to back up that assertion. The five remaining Indiana stores use this website: https://www.shopsafeways.com. These Safeway stores use a logo that was in use in the late 1980s. Not sure when that logo was first in use, or if the national Safeway chain has ever used that logo. - Cali, 73.146.110.137 ( talk) 05:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Tol ( talk | contribs) @ 15:45, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
Safeway Inc. → Safeway – The contemporary United States grocery chain is clearly the primary topic relative to defunct groceries of the same name in other countries and smaller companies with similar names. – CWenger ( ^ • @) 19:35, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
At some point Safeway closed all its stores in southern Idaho. I recall the company wanted to build a new store in Boise, ID but the city denied the request. Not long afterwards, Boise allowed a new Albertsons to be built on that site. I think the denial to Safeway was something about it being too close to a school. Shortly after, Safeway was gone from Boise and the rest of southern Idaho. Today there are only 4 Idaho Safeway locations, Sandpoint, Moscow, and 2 in Couer d'Alene. If anyone knows the whole story behind that, I think it would be a good addition to this article. Bizzybody ( talk) 02:50, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
It should be noted that employees give great insight into how a business is run, and as such, it is my opinion that employees of Safeway (whether current or former) shall be allowed to insert their own personal knowledge of the company, as long as it falls within Wikipedia's 5 Pillars and is relevant to the context of the article. External sources should be provided whenever possible, but of course, there are instances where unique corporate details that others may be interested in knowing are not known externally. Please consider the flow of the entire article when making edits to the page. Dpro34 ( talk) 11:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
The lead states
Safeway, Inc. is an American supermarket chain founded by Marion Barton Skaggs in April 1915 in American Falls, Idaho.
But the body of the article says
By 1926, he had opened 428 Skaggs stores in 10 states. M.B. almost doubled the size of his business that year when he merged his company with 322 Sam Seelig Company stores and incorporated as Safeway, Inc., because he thought that a chain that would outlive him should not carry his name.
If the body is correct, then Safeway wasn’t created in 1915 but 1926. An interesting tidbit about the name Safeway suggests Skaggs came up with the name:
The Skaggs family saw the negative effects that credit was having in their Idaho community. S. M. Skaggs believed the system made customers overly reliant on grocers. He even claimed that this system was “ the growing evil of installment purchasing.” Skaggs implemented a “cash and carry” rule in his stores which meant that customers could only pay for goods with cash. This philosophy is memorialized in the name that M. B. Skaggs chose for his growing grocery empire: Safeway. The name represented the family’s no-credit policy by suggesting to shoppers that purchasing goods with cash was the “safe way” to shop.
However, this source says Seelig came up with the Safeway name before Skaggs acquired/merged Seelig’s stores with his own. I propose we change the article crediting Seelig with “founding” Safeway and then Skaggs with the merger. I know this is a big change, but I believe the sources do support this. Thoughts? MasNuisance ( talk) 22:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
https://wrightrealtors.com/stockton//safeway.htm MasNuisance ( talk) 22:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
I noticed half the history section was missing, and at first I was going to ask what are you are doing with such massive deletions. Then I checked and there appear to be better sources out there, like this one, that also credit Seelig as the original founder and Skaggs as the man who was brought in to bolt his his chain onto Safeway and then take charge and supercharge its operations. I don't have the time to go through those sources right now, though. Coolcaesar ( talk) 00:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Andronico's was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 27 September 2022 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Safeway. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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There used to be many locations all over Indiana. Now there are only five, and they are concentrated in Indianapolis. A few of them were named Preston's Safeway, though those locations have closed. I can't seem to find any history on these stores. I was always under the impression that they were once part of the national chain, but through mergers and sell offs, somehow are no longer affiliated with the national chain. But I have no sources to back up that assertion. The five remaining Indiana stores use this website: https://www.shopsafeways.com. These Safeway stores use a logo that was in use in the late 1980s. Not sure when that logo was first in use, or if the national Safeway chain has ever used that logo. - Cali, 73.146.110.137 ( talk) 05:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Tol ( talk | contribs) @ 15:45, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
Safeway Inc. → Safeway – The contemporary United States grocery chain is clearly the primary topic relative to defunct groceries of the same name in other countries and smaller companies with similar names. – CWenger ( ^ • @) 19:35, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
At some point Safeway closed all its stores in southern Idaho. I recall the company wanted to build a new store in Boise, ID but the city denied the request. Not long afterwards, Boise allowed a new Albertsons to be built on that site. I think the denial to Safeway was something about it being too close to a school. Shortly after, Safeway was gone from Boise and the rest of southern Idaho. Today there are only 4 Idaho Safeway locations, Sandpoint, Moscow, and 2 in Couer d'Alene. If anyone knows the whole story behind that, I think it would be a good addition to this article. Bizzybody ( talk) 02:50, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
It should be noted that employees give great insight into how a business is run, and as such, it is my opinion that employees of Safeway (whether current or former) shall be allowed to insert their own personal knowledge of the company, as long as it falls within Wikipedia's 5 Pillars and is relevant to the context of the article. External sources should be provided whenever possible, but of course, there are instances where unique corporate details that others may be interested in knowing are not known externally. Please consider the flow of the entire article when making edits to the page. Dpro34 ( talk) 11:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
The lead states
Safeway, Inc. is an American supermarket chain founded by Marion Barton Skaggs in April 1915 in American Falls, Idaho.
But the body of the article says
By 1926, he had opened 428 Skaggs stores in 10 states. M.B. almost doubled the size of his business that year when he merged his company with 322 Sam Seelig Company stores and incorporated as Safeway, Inc., because he thought that a chain that would outlive him should not carry his name.
If the body is correct, then Safeway wasn’t created in 1915 but 1926. An interesting tidbit about the name Safeway suggests Skaggs came up with the name:
The Skaggs family saw the negative effects that credit was having in their Idaho community. S. M. Skaggs believed the system made customers overly reliant on grocers. He even claimed that this system was “ the growing evil of installment purchasing.” Skaggs implemented a “cash and carry” rule in his stores which meant that customers could only pay for goods with cash. This philosophy is memorialized in the name that M. B. Skaggs chose for his growing grocery empire: Safeway. The name represented the family’s no-credit policy by suggesting to shoppers that purchasing goods with cash was the “safe way” to shop.
However, this source says Seelig came up with the Safeway name before Skaggs acquired/merged Seelig’s stores with his own. I propose we change the article crediting Seelig with “founding” Safeway and then Skaggs with the merger. I know this is a big change, but I believe the sources do support this. Thoughts? MasNuisance ( talk) 22:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
https://wrightrealtors.com/stockton//safeway.htm MasNuisance ( talk) 22:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
I noticed half the history section was missing, and at first I was going to ask what are you are doing with such massive deletions. Then I checked and there appear to be better sources out there, like this one, that also credit Seelig as the original founder and Skaggs as the man who was brought in to bolt his his chain onto Safeway and then take charge and supercharge its operations. I don't have the time to go through those sources right now, though. Coolcaesar ( talk) 00:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)