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While whistleblower protection is an important topic, it does not merit an entire external links section on the page (this just looks like a link farm). The page is about drinking water, not whistleblowers. Unless User:Rrenner or someone can add some context as to how or why this section of the law has been used specifically with regards to drinking water. Kristan 14:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Additional sections are needed to explain the major health issues that the SDWA addresses and how the programs work. The provisions that are currently discussed are OK, but need an overall contextual framework. (I have added some citations and clarifications, but more are needed.) For example, the "Lead Free" section should (briefly) explain the public health significance of lead in drinking water.
There is way too much unexplained jargon, e.g. community & non-community water systems, transient & non-transient, water system operator (i.e. a drinking water utility). The terms could be described on separate pages, or briefly explained on the SDWA page. Moreau1 02:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Drinking water quality legislation of the United States is mostly redundant with this page. The SDWA is the only major federal law on drinking water. Moreau1 ( talk) 02:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
All SDWA related pages should be reworked. SDWA should be about the SDWA. Other pages can be about the regulations. The Drinking water quality legislation of the United States page could be an overview of how drinking water is regulated (law, code, state and federal enforcement) pointing to some of the more specific pages, e.g. lead and copper, which also needs major work. Leef ( talk) 15:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I worked up a quick outline. Out of laziness, I'm going to put it here instead of imposing it on the pages themselves. Although not shown in the outline, most of the National Primary Drinking Water Reg info here in SDWA will be removed (and combined or replaced by 40CFR141 section of DWQ page. From lack of vision, the outline follows the general outline of the federal laws and rules:
SDWA Background Description EPA to set mcls and goals for contaminants Variances/Exemptions Prohibition of use of lead pipes, solders, flux Monitoring Water supply Operators Capacity Development Water source protection UIC Well head protection Emergency Plans Record keeping requirements States to enforce if EPA criteria met Grants and funding to States and water systems {{Unsigned|1=Leef|2=06:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)}} <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> USEPA [[links to DWQL and subpages|USEPA rules]] History Amendments DWQLegisl Federal 141 NPDWR General Concepts Sizes of systems Types of users Classes of contaminants Maximum Contaminant Level MCLG Public Notifications Specific Rules TCR [[LCR]] CCR SWTR DBP Others 142 Implemention Primacy State Health Departments or Resource/Environment Departments Counties 143 Secondary Not enforceable (but some states may adopt the federal recommendations as code State Cal NY PHL SSC Impact of the legislation History [Specifics of how subparts "evolved"] Criticism Regneg - not unique to Drinking Water, but no general page yet exists!? LCR Proposed Radon?
I haven't included an outline for the lead and copper rule, or any of the other sub pages. The intent would be to put general overviews in the DWQR page and create subpages as they became detail enough. I believe this approach agrees with your "brief and clear redirects" preference. The main difference is that I see the SDWA as an intro page and the DWQR page as the main page. This is because all the detail is in the implementation, not in the Congress's general wish that drinking water be safe. The outline is also soft on important peripheral issues like health effects or implications of the rules (or problems the rules are intended to combat), environmental and economic impacts, success/failure meeting goals, etc. I think these can be added into the subpages, perhaps similarly to a template. With the exception of the "impacts", most of the article will be paraphrased out of the federal (or state) law and code, so can be fully referenced by two external links (notwithstanding that the codes are amended often - do we need to reproduce a snapshot? See also the CFR page). Should the last 4 outline items be moved to within the "Federal" section?
I've got nothing on ground rules. Duplication is bad. Only careful use of summaries and links can help; this being a wiki. Leef ( talk) 06:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the amendment to the Safe Drinking Water Act under the Energy Policy Act, signed by President George W. Bush in 2005? At present the history of the act jumps mysteriously from the 1990s to 2009. Was there never a mention of the 2005 amendment in relation to gas/oil mining - which was highly controversial - or was it removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mutants11 ( talk • contribs) 03:16, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
This new summary section, inserted at the bottom of the article, is lacking context. Additionally, there are incorrect and vague statements about how the SDWA works. The References provided in this new section are not to be placed right after the text; they should placed in Wikipedia format, and they will then display properly in the existing "References" section for the overall article. See WP:REF.
The overall SDWA article currently describes what the basic elements of the SDWA are, and some of the related regulations. And that's about it. More work needs to be done in many sections of the article. Most importantly, there is no background section discussing the public health issues associated with drinking water, what programs and legal requirements were in place before passage of the SDWA, implementation problems, etc. There are a few separate, related articles which have some good information, e.g. Lead and copper rule and Drinking water supply and sanitation in the United States, etc., but some expansion is needed here in the SDWA article.
Once a background section is added to the article, adding a section summarizing of existing problems with the law (and its implementation) would be useful. But this text must be accurate and fully referenced, in the proper format. Moreau1 ( talk) 15:18, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
This section provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject.(April 2017) |
This section includes a
list of references,
related reading, or
external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks
inline citations. (April 2017) |
This section has an unclear
citation style. The reason given is: Use the same citation format as the rest of this article. (April 2017) |
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While whistleblower protection is an important topic, it does not merit an entire external links section on the page (this just looks like a link farm). The page is about drinking water, not whistleblowers. Unless User:Rrenner or someone can add some context as to how or why this section of the law has been used specifically with regards to drinking water. Kristan 14:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Additional sections are needed to explain the major health issues that the SDWA addresses and how the programs work. The provisions that are currently discussed are OK, but need an overall contextual framework. (I have added some citations and clarifications, but more are needed.) For example, the "Lead Free" section should (briefly) explain the public health significance of lead in drinking water.
There is way too much unexplained jargon, e.g. community & non-community water systems, transient & non-transient, water system operator (i.e. a drinking water utility). The terms could be described on separate pages, or briefly explained on the SDWA page. Moreau1 02:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Drinking water quality legislation of the United States is mostly redundant with this page. The SDWA is the only major federal law on drinking water. Moreau1 ( talk) 02:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
All SDWA related pages should be reworked. SDWA should be about the SDWA. Other pages can be about the regulations. The Drinking water quality legislation of the United States page could be an overview of how drinking water is regulated (law, code, state and federal enforcement) pointing to some of the more specific pages, e.g. lead and copper, which also needs major work. Leef ( talk) 15:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I worked up a quick outline. Out of laziness, I'm going to put it here instead of imposing it on the pages themselves. Although not shown in the outline, most of the National Primary Drinking Water Reg info here in SDWA will be removed (and combined or replaced by 40CFR141 section of DWQ page. From lack of vision, the outline follows the general outline of the federal laws and rules:
SDWA Background Description EPA to set mcls and goals for contaminants Variances/Exemptions Prohibition of use of lead pipes, solders, flux Monitoring Water supply Operators Capacity Development Water source protection UIC Well head protection Emergency Plans Record keeping requirements States to enforce if EPA criteria met Grants and funding to States and water systems {{Unsigned|1=Leef|2=06:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)}} <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> USEPA [[links to DWQL and subpages|USEPA rules]] History Amendments DWQLegisl Federal 141 NPDWR General Concepts Sizes of systems Types of users Classes of contaminants Maximum Contaminant Level MCLG Public Notifications Specific Rules TCR [[LCR]] CCR SWTR DBP Others 142 Implemention Primacy State Health Departments or Resource/Environment Departments Counties 143 Secondary Not enforceable (but some states may adopt the federal recommendations as code State Cal NY PHL SSC Impact of the legislation History [Specifics of how subparts "evolved"] Criticism Regneg - not unique to Drinking Water, but no general page yet exists!? LCR Proposed Radon?
I haven't included an outline for the lead and copper rule, or any of the other sub pages. The intent would be to put general overviews in the DWQR page and create subpages as they became detail enough. I believe this approach agrees with your "brief and clear redirects" preference. The main difference is that I see the SDWA as an intro page and the DWQR page as the main page. This is because all the detail is in the implementation, not in the Congress's general wish that drinking water be safe. The outline is also soft on important peripheral issues like health effects or implications of the rules (or problems the rules are intended to combat), environmental and economic impacts, success/failure meeting goals, etc. I think these can be added into the subpages, perhaps similarly to a template. With the exception of the "impacts", most of the article will be paraphrased out of the federal (or state) law and code, so can be fully referenced by two external links (notwithstanding that the codes are amended often - do we need to reproduce a snapshot? See also the CFR page). Should the last 4 outline items be moved to within the "Federal" section?
I've got nothing on ground rules. Duplication is bad. Only careful use of summaries and links can help; this being a wiki. Leef ( talk) 06:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the amendment to the Safe Drinking Water Act under the Energy Policy Act, signed by President George W. Bush in 2005? At present the history of the act jumps mysteriously from the 1990s to 2009. Was there never a mention of the 2005 amendment in relation to gas/oil mining - which was highly controversial - or was it removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mutants11 ( talk • contribs) 03:16, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
This new summary section, inserted at the bottom of the article, is lacking context. Additionally, there are incorrect and vague statements about how the SDWA works. The References provided in this new section are not to be placed right after the text; they should placed in Wikipedia format, and they will then display properly in the existing "References" section for the overall article. See WP:REF.
The overall SDWA article currently describes what the basic elements of the SDWA are, and some of the related regulations. And that's about it. More work needs to be done in many sections of the article. Most importantly, there is no background section discussing the public health issues associated with drinking water, what programs and legal requirements were in place before passage of the SDWA, implementation problems, etc. There are a few separate, related articles which have some good information, e.g. Lead and copper rule and Drinking water supply and sanitation in the United States, etc., but some expansion is needed here in the SDWA article.
Once a background section is added to the article, adding a section summarizing of existing problems with the law (and its implementation) would be useful. But this text must be accurate and fully referenced, in the proper format. Moreau1 ( talk) 15:18, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
This section provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject.(April 2017) |
This section includes a
list of references,
related reading, or
external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks
inline citations. (April 2017) |
This section has an unclear
citation style. The reason given is: Use the same citation format as the rest of this article. (April 2017) |