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Reviewer: North8000 ( talk · contribs) 15:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
I am starting a review of this article. The previous review was dropped in progress. It appears that the best way to handle it is to start a new one as it is listed as not being under review. North8000 ( talk) 15:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
First, regarding the larger amount of North American material, I think that the question was discussed and resolved in the previous partial review. In essence, the article is following what's in reasonably available sources. On top of that, it's quite plausible that festivals defined as being about a particular nationality/culture would occur more in places outside of the country that it is about. Just as in the USA we do not have festivals defined as being about "American music".
Next, my next question is more of an exploration than a critique. As possibly the most active editor in Wikipedia on folk music topics, I have a particular curiosity. The start of the main body of the article starts the type of music, at least at it's roots. The the article pretty quickly moves away from covering the music itself. If Saengerfest (back then / and or now) is substantially about particular types of music, (more specific than the broader "anything that involves singing in German") then that topic seems tantalizingly under-covered in the article. If the opposite is true (that they were and are mainly defined as a cultural event rather than specific types of music) than I would say that my "tantalizingly under-covered" comment doesn't apply. Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 14:10, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
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Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias, giving due weight to each
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute
Illustrated, if possible, by images
This passes as a Wikipedia Good Article. What a well written, informative article! If I had any advice for future development, it might be to expand on the type and role of it's early music. It looks like you may already have the sources to enable that. As possibly the most active Wikipedia editor on Folk Music, the "music to promote social change" mentioned in te article,, and of what we would now call in English folk music, has many parallels throughout history, and I had a frustrated please tell me more feeling when you just mentioned it without going into it. Ditto for more coverage of the music itself during it's beginnings. And so expansions there might be nice.
Congratulations! Nice work! Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 01:20, 12 December 2013 (UTC) Reviewer
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Reviewer: North8000 ( talk · contribs) 15:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
I am starting a review of this article. The previous review was dropped in progress. It appears that the best way to handle it is to start a new one as it is listed as not being under review. North8000 ( talk) 15:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
First, regarding the larger amount of North American material, I think that the question was discussed and resolved in the previous partial review. In essence, the article is following what's in reasonably available sources. On top of that, it's quite plausible that festivals defined as being about a particular nationality/culture would occur more in places outside of the country that it is about. Just as in the USA we do not have festivals defined as being about "American music".
Next, my next question is more of an exploration than a critique. As possibly the most active editor in Wikipedia on folk music topics, I have a particular curiosity. The start of the main body of the article starts the type of music, at least at it's roots. The the article pretty quickly moves away from covering the music itself. If Saengerfest (back then / and or now) is substantially about particular types of music, (more specific than the broader "anything that involves singing in German") then that topic seems tantalizingly under-covered in the article. If the opposite is true (that they were and are mainly defined as a cultural event rather than specific types of music) than I would say that my "tantalizingly under-covered" comment doesn't apply. Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 14:10, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Well-written
Factually accurate and verifiable
Broad in its coverage
Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias, giving due weight to each
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute
Illustrated, if possible, by images
This passes as a Wikipedia Good Article. What a well written, informative article! If I had any advice for future development, it might be to expand on the type and role of it's early music. It looks like you may already have the sources to enable that. As possibly the most active Wikipedia editor on Folk Music, the "music to promote social change" mentioned in te article,, and of what we would now call in English folk music, has many parallels throughout history, and I had a frustrated please tell me more feeling when you just mentioned it without going into it. Ditto for more coverage of the music itself during it's beginnings. And so expansions there might be nice.
Congratulations! Nice work! Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 01:20, 12 December 2013 (UTC) Reviewer