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Cite reliable sources. 16:52, 25 April 2017 User:Knand61
Chunky Pandey name in star cast you not added Allu Arjun (Hussain) ( talk) 16:39, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
In this edit I redirected the article to Sujeeth as was previously done by Balablitz here. There was no effort made to establish that the film had begun principal photography, which is Film Article 101. Per WP:NFF:
Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles, as budget issues, scripting issues and casting issues can interfere with a project well ahead of its intended filming date. The assumption should also not be made that because a film is likely to be a high-profile release it will be immune to setbacks—there is no "sure thing" production. Until the start of principal photography, information on the film might be included in articles about its subject material, if available. Sources must be used to confirm the start of principal photography after shooting has begun.(Emphasis theirs)
When editors can establish that principal photography has begun, the article may be restored. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 07:34, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
In this edit, I again redirected the article to Prabhas. Per this source, filming has not begun, which means that WP:NFF has not been established. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 22:33, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
It would be last shot in Telugu because the actor and director are from telugu speaking states, then simultaneously they do it in Hindi,tamil, Malayalam.They don't do it from Hindi please correct that! Blackcashew ( talk) 05:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
--Please revert back to using Telugu on top in the "languages" section. Kindly show Telugu as the first language as the industry making this movie is Telugu (UV productions). Please look at pages of movies such as the great wall. This was a Chinese production and although it had Matt Damon, Jing Tian, Pedro Pascal, Willem Dafoe. The page shows it as a Chinese movie. Please follow — Preceding unsigned comment added by Precisepie ( talk • contribs) 00:19, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
So if its a Tamil interview means its error ? and here another interview of Prabhas saying "We did in Tamil too, Its three languages", This interview and This shraddha kapoor interview "It was shot in three languages" establishes the fact that it is a trilingual film. Panda619 ( talk) 05:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
In this source, a lead actor clearly says the film was shot in three languages. Taking the older sources in the lead, I believe Tamil can be added. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 09:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
If we should include tamil as another language we might need some extra information mentioning partially some shots were shot in Tamil aswell instead of saying the movie itself was simultaneously shot in tamil which is incorrect. Ripapart ( talk) 23:35, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Also we could add Tamil with this information (saying lot of shots were shot in tamil) in the main lines and avoid adding into the info box, as movie itself was not simultaneously shot - these details cannot be represented in info box and it will be incorrect to add it there. Ripapart ( talk) 23:39, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
If some shots of Saaho were shot in Tamil and not the complete movie, we should not include Tamil in the list. Otherwise, we have to make all the Rajnikanth and Kamal Hassan movies as bilingual because most of the movies of these two stars have many shots which are tailor made for Telugu audience that does not appear in Tamil version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.249.219 ( talk) 14:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
If only some scenes of BB2 were filmed in Tamil, then Tamil should be stripped off from the language list. It does not matter whether a film is released as bilinguals/trilinguals, we have to make all the Rajnikanth and Kamal Hassan movies as bilingual/trilingual because they reshot some scenes for Telugu audience. Otherwise, if only some scenes are shot in a particular language, we should not include that language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.196.235 ( talk) 17:07, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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parameter of the infobox, write See [[#Production|Production]], with a link to the production section. At the bottom of that section, or wherever is intuitive, add information to the tune of "Initial reports indicated the film would be shot in three languages, A, B and C...however, later comments by X only stated that it was filmed in ___ and ___". This should make it clear that we don't know for sure, without committing us to reporting the Truth (with a capital T). Naturally in the lead sentence we would leave it the way it is, which currently says "Saaho (transl. Valour) is an upcoming 2019 Indian action thriller film". Does that seem reasonable?
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02:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)" "Tamil" was removed recently after this source ", In this film companion interview, The Interviewer leads about asking Hindi and Telugu, cast members responds to it and later here, the Interviewer asks "Is there a difference in the way you pitch a performance in either language", Prabhas responds saying Tamil and Telugu dialogue modulation are nearby, hindi was different and concludes saying "Hindi was harder than Tamil and Telugu for me". This makes this source Invalid and can't be even used as citation for "Hindi & Telugu only" claim. on the other hand we have like more than 5 sources from cast and producers clearly saying "Shot in three languages", "Trilingual" and more similar sources can be found. Panda619 ( talk) 05:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
In the interview, Prabhas mentioned about Tamil language in reference to the movie Baahubali but not about Saaho. Listen to the interview again clearly. He clearly talked about only Telugu and Hindi languages for the movie Saaho. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.145.102 ( talk) 05:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Why we need an RFC? What all criteria should a language fulfillment in order for Wikipedia to consider a movie to have made in a particular language. Define and establish what Wikipedia criteria should be to consider to have been simultaneously shot in a language; specifically all scenes or few scenes could be considered as simultaneously shot.
I fell we are kind of going in circles repeating the same thing again with rest of the information, the gist of this conversation boils down to these established points of information so far.
My take on the whole thing is that it might be best if we include Tamil in the lead paragraph mentioning multiple scenes being shot in it and avoid adding it under info box as these details cannot be represented there. Cyphoidbomb Ripapart ( talk) 18:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Did anyone who are making comments really listen to the interview in which Prabhas said about Tamil while talking about Baahubali but not about Saaho? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.252.78 ( talk) 09:06, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
"The film was not shot entirely in Tamil some scenes were shot in Tamil."Even if this claim were substantiated (and I don't know if it has been yet), why would it matter what percentage was filmed? Filming is expensive. If they used dubbing as a shortcut for some scenes where matching lips wasn't crucial, that's their prerogative. If any significant shots were filmed in Tamil, even if it were only one, that should qualify it as being "simultaneously shot in Tamil". Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:43, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
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Selena (film) lists English and Spanish, because characters in the film speak either or both languages. Were all the scenes shot in Spanish? No. Were all the scenes shot in English? No. Some scenes were shot in English and some were shot in Spanish. In this instance, both languages walk side-by-side in the film. But why would it be any different for Tamil? If any scenes were shot in Tamil, that could qualify it as a multi-lingual film, especially if it's intended to be released entirely in Tamil, partly dubbed or not. There is no requirement that every dialogue shot has to be filmed in X-language in order for it to be considered a film shot in that language.
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Cyphoidbomb, if you claim that even if a single scene is shot in any language, that language should be included in the language list, then I can show you the proofs of umpteen number of Tamil films in which some scenes are shot in Telugu language. Shall we change all those films' language list in Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.254.50 ( talk) 17:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Cyphoidbomb, I am not taking your comment out of context, it is very much relevant to the context. I want to say that if we include Tamil to the language list of Saaho, there are lot of standard sources available online saying that many scenes of Tamil movies are shot for Telugu audience. We may unnecessarily have to dig a whole lot of settled articles to include Telugu language in the language list of those articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.163.163 ( talk) 06:08, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Here is one more latest source which says that it was shot simultaneously in Hindi and Telugu only. https://www.indiatimes.com/entertainment/saaho-to-be-bigger-than-baahubali-even-before-its-release-prabhas-film-has-earned-rs-300-crore-373570.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.131.75 ( talk) 07:40, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Why is Malayalam not mentioned here ?, The film is being dubbed in malayalam, This source is similar to that film companion interview and WP:CIRCULAR as DeluxeVegan said, Totally invalid to be even mentioned and also stop making out of context straw man arguments, we should reflect how this film is marketed and what producers says. Panda619 ( talk) 08:00, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
BTW ; by the way indiatimes seems definitely like a much better source than that unprofessional producers’ site which you want to use. Ripapart ( talk) 08:32, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Goodness me. @ Cyphoidbomb: Please look at these heavily problematic ethnic-warrior edits from Ripapart's part (in particular, Anti-Tamil and pro Telugu): 1, 2, 3 (Blatant lie too), 4, 5. This certainly qualifies as disruptive editing. DeluxeVegan ( talk) 08:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Here comes another boomerang, if you are not in a position to convince, try to malign the image of the opponent so that you can convince others. I am not bothered about Ripapart's credentials, I am sticking to my point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.133.164 ( talk) 09:10, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
I have gone through all the references you have made about Ripapart, he has given explanation in every edit he made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.133.164 ( talk) 09:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Here is another latest source supporting Saaho was shot in Hindi and Telugu only. Here there is no mentioning of Tamil at all. https://www.news18.com/news/movies/sharddha-kapoor-says-prabhas-helped-her-in-learning-telugu-for-saaho-2275179.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.133.164 ( talk) 10:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
According to your view, shall we conclude that the earlier sources took a lead from Wikipedia, which had Tamil in the language list and hence mentioned Tamil language in their articles. So, we can finally go with the interview in which the lead actors specifying it as Hindi and Telugu movie only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.245.201 ( talk) 13:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
So, let us maintain the status quo as per the actors' interview until the producer of the movie makes a statement saying that it was shot in Tamil also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.131.233 ( talk) 14:35, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
It does not matter whether Tamil was removed 10 days back or 1 day back. It was removed after the lead actors' confessions. @ Fylindfotberserk Discussions arised because lead actors mentioned it as Hindi and Telugu movie in that interview. Otherwise, there would not be any discussions at all. Yes we had enough discussions, let us go with the actors' interview only until the producer makes a statement regarding Tamil language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.131.233 ( talk) 14:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
The source date is even before April 28, 2017 as it mentions that "Don't forget to catch the official teaser on April 28, 2017". The lead actors' interview is very recent. So, the actors, who are part of the film, will be knowing better than us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.131.233 ( talk) 15:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
"Nice catch ?dumb ! @fylindfotberserk you judge other editors too quickly"<-- Refrain from making personal attacks like that. You might get reported. Maintain civility. And this type of activity does look suspicious. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 15:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
@ DeluxeVegan, if the actors didn't say anything like that then this discussion might not have arised. Do you try to impose your opinion in Wikipedia because more number of editors taking your side without providing proper evidence? Since you could not show any proper evidence, as said by Ripapart you have started personally attacking Ripapart and others sang chorus with you. Fylindfotberserk I am not an anti-Tamil. I go by proofs. Come with solid proofs, we can add Tamil to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.144.173 ( talk) 16:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Shot in 3 languages does not mean that the whole movie is shot in 3 languages. May be partly some scenes. Let us wait for more concurrent sources. If any latest video floats from actors saying it bilingual, the current status will be reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.243.55 ( talk) 16:54, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Comment : Movie has released and the Tamil audio does not match lip movements of the characters onscreen. So Tamil can be removed. As far as the supposed "Gold Standard" of the production house is concerned. We do not consider Box office numbers provided by the production house to be sacrosanct. Common sense should prevail. Especially considering that there is plenty of evidence to backup the fact the production house might have had a vision to execute the movie in three languages but it did not see it through. I have not watched the Hindi version yet. Will watch and add my comments here again if necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Precisepie ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Mention that original language is telugu, since director, producers and lead role prabhas from telugu industry Charan321321 ( talk) 06:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Many people raising a doubt about original language.So, mention original language is telugu. Charan321321 ( talk) 07:02, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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1) In the CAST section, prabhas as "ASHOK CHAKRAVARTHY".
Source: 1) It's visible in the trailer at 0:27 182.18.177.138 ( talk) 13:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Not done Not clearly visible. Better to have an explicit source IMO. -
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Change Saaho (transl. Valour) to Saaho (transl. Hail or Cheers) because it is the actual meaning of the word Saaho. Kaishows ( talk) 05:18, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
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The film will also be dubbed and released in Malayalam. 2001:8F8:172D:5FFB:A0EA:6526:5D32:1B63 ( talk) 06:10, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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Add Runtime of the movie it's 172 minutes. 136.233.33.82 ( talk) 04:53, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
I was add new poster which was include full cast. I will promise u all users it was final poster and not change again and again. Sush150 ( talk) 06:48, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
But u updated image quality was not good plzz add my poster. Thank you Sush150 ( talk) 06:55, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
The makers of movie are created this poster. Why they not mention Hindi language I don't no?? Sush150 ( talk) 07:13, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@DeluxeVegan, now yrf is also post same poster in the there official twitter handle. Check now- https://twitter.com/yrf/status/1167355887876550661 Sush150 ( talk) 10:29, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Please add following section in the Reception section.
The film received mixed reviews, with criticism directed at it for VFX,screenplay and pacing, though Prabhas's performance was praised. Bollywood Hungama gave 2.5 out of 5 stars citing "SAAHO suffers from a lackadaisical script and a vacuous screenplay". [1] Thinkal Menon of Times of India also rated the film 2.5 out of 5 stars praising for technical aspects and criticizing script. [2] Taran Adarsh was also critical for Sahoo for being "Weak story, confusing screenplay and amateur direction". [3] However Ramesh Bala praised the movie for its Prabhas performance and action citing screenplay could have been better. [4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by IKamalkandel ( talk • contribs) 15:06, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Please note that this section is still in development.
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References
Please create a paragraph of box office collection Vikrant Dudhare ( talk) 03:48, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
500 cr Aarjun369 ( talk) 08:50, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
@ Cyphoidbomb and Ab207: Ok so going over the credits of the film for the Hindi, Telugu, and Tamil versions [5], [6], [7] Bhushan Kumar is no where credited as the producer of the film. In all 3 versions this is what is stated Produced by Vamsi-Pramod. With this I have came to a conclusion that T-Series films was just a presenter for this film in Hindi and not a producer by any means. Even in the poster itself Bhushan Kumar is not credited as a producer. SP013 ( talk) 15:39, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
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@ Ab207:@ Kailash29792:@ SP013: If the Tamil version is straight per CBFC then at least one scene should be in lip sync, correct? However, till date, it seems that there is no lip sync at all and which scene was shot in Tamil is unknown if not zero. By including Tamil in the infobox, it is misleading readers to think that this is a Tamil film. Even the only Tamil actor, Arun Vijay, lacks lips sync, which leads to the fact that this film was not shot in Tamil at all. Well known critic of The Hindu here in the Saaho review says "Saaho was simultaneously filmed in Telugu and Hindi, and dubbed in Tamil, Kannada and Malayalam", which looks very accurate. Another critic here said that "And it is largely dubbed in Tamil, leading to lip-sync issues". Here Shraddha Kapoor said that "It was quite challenging to dub in Telugu". Then what about Tamil, because she did not even mouth the Tamil lines, she didn't mention it (still proving that this is not a Tamil film). Here Prabhas talks about the Hindi dubbing and not Tamil. Here, Prabhas says that "I couldn’t dub for my character in Tamil, though, owing to lack of time" but what this really means is that the film was not shot in Tamil owing to lack of time.
Why can't secondary sources be taken into account instead of simply relying on the CBFC certificate? Do you guys have a link for the CBFC certificate? What if the film director's idea to film the Tamil version was dropped? DareshMohan ( talk) 05:54, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
"Yes, they dubbed many important scenes in Tamil, maybe even all": Lol
Filmed simultaneously in Hindi, Telugu, and Tamil languages→
Filmed simultaneously in Hindi and Telugu languages and partially reshot in Tamil
latter's debut in Telugu and Tamil cinema→
latter's debut in Telugu cinema
Kapoor shot her portions in Telugu and Hindi languages onlyshould go in that page too. DareshMohan ( talk) 09:44, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
many important scenes reshot in Tamil language as well. This is 100% false did the makers decide to drop their idea or did they lie for promotion sake? How do we cite this one reshot scene in article, can we cite the film itself? DareshMohan ( talk) 00:05, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Why is there no mention that this film is a box office bomb? If the production budget is 350 cr, then it must touch 525–700 cr for breakeven. But this film only grossed 432-439 cr. It is a box office bomb. Sandip 18:10, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Cite reliable sources. 16:52, 25 April 2017 User:Knand61
Chunky Pandey name in star cast you not added Allu Arjun (Hussain) ( talk) 16:39, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
In this edit I redirected the article to Sujeeth as was previously done by Balablitz here. There was no effort made to establish that the film had begun principal photography, which is Film Article 101. Per WP:NFF:
Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles, as budget issues, scripting issues and casting issues can interfere with a project well ahead of its intended filming date. The assumption should also not be made that because a film is likely to be a high-profile release it will be immune to setbacks—there is no "sure thing" production. Until the start of principal photography, information on the film might be included in articles about its subject material, if available. Sources must be used to confirm the start of principal photography after shooting has begun.(Emphasis theirs)
When editors can establish that principal photography has begun, the article may be restored. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 07:34, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
In this edit, I again redirected the article to Prabhas. Per this source, filming has not begun, which means that WP:NFF has not been established. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 22:33, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
It would be last shot in Telugu because the actor and director are from telugu speaking states, then simultaneously they do it in Hindi,tamil, Malayalam.They don't do it from Hindi please correct that! Blackcashew ( talk) 05:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
--Please revert back to using Telugu on top in the "languages" section. Kindly show Telugu as the first language as the industry making this movie is Telugu (UV productions). Please look at pages of movies such as the great wall. This was a Chinese production and although it had Matt Damon, Jing Tian, Pedro Pascal, Willem Dafoe. The page shows it as a Chinese movie. Please follow — Preceding unsigned comment added by Precisepie ( talk • contribs) 00:19, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
So if its a Tamil interview means its error ? and here another interview of Prabhas saying "We did in Tamil too, Its three languages", This interview and This shraddha kapoor interview "It was shot in three languages" establishes the fact that it is a trilingual film. Panda619 ( talk) 05:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
In this source, a lead actor clearly says the film was shot in three languages. Taking the older sources in the lead, I believe Tamil can be added. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 09:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
If we should include tamil as another language we might need some extra information mentioning partially some shots were shot in Tamil aswell instead of saying the movie itself was simultaneously shot in tamil which is incorrect. Ripapart ( talk) 23:35, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Also we could add Tamil with this information (saying lot of shots were shot in tamil) in the main lines and avoid adding into the info box, as movie itself was not simultaneously shot - these details cannot be represented in info box and it will be incorrect to add it there. Ripapart ( talk) 23:39, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
If some shots of Saaho were shot in Tamil and not the complete movie, we should not include Tamil in the list. Otherwise, we have to make all the Rajnikanth and Kamal Hassan movies as bilingual because most of the movies of these two stars have many shots which are tailor made for Telugu audience that does not appear in Tamil version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.249.219 ( talk) 14:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
If only some scenes of BB2 were filmed in Tamil, then Tamil should be stripped off from the language list. It does not matter whether a film is released as bilinguals/trilinguals, we have to make all the Rajnikanth and Kamal Hassan movies as bilingual/trilingual because they reshot some scenes for Telugu audience. Otherwise, if only some scenes are shot in a particular language, we should not include that language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.196.235 ( talk) 17:07, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
|language=
parameter of the infobox, write See [[#Production|Production]], with a link to the production section. At the bottom of that section, or wherever is intuitive, add information to the tune of "Initial reports indicated the film would be shot in three languages, A, B and C...however, later comments by X only stated that it was filmed in ___ and ___". This should make it clear that we don't know for sure, without committing us to reporting the Truth (with a capital T). Naturally in the lead sentence we would leave it the way it is, which currently says "Saaho (transl. Valour) is an upcoming 2019 Indian action thriller film". Does that seem reasonable?
Cyphoidbomb (
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02:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)" "Tamil" was removed recently after this source ", In this film companion interview, The Interviewer leads about asking Hindi and Telugu, cast members responds to it and later here, the Interviewer asks "Is there a difference in the way you pitch a performance in either language", Prabhas responds saying Tamil and Telugu dialogue modulation are nearby, hindi was different and concludes saying "Hindi was harder than Tamil and Telugu for me". This makes this source Invalid and can't be even used as citation for "Hindi & Telugu only" claim. on the other hand we have like more than 5 sources from cast and producers clearly saying "Shot in three languages", "Trilingual" and more similar sources can be found. Panda619 ( talk) 05:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
In the interview, Prabhas mentioned about Tamil language in reference to the movie Baahubali but not about Saaho. Listen to the interview again clearly. He clearly talked about only Telugu and Hindi languages for the movie Saaho. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.145.102 ( talk) 05:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Why we need an RFC? What all criteria should a language fulfillment in order for Wikipedia to consider a movie to have made in a particular language. Define and establish what Wikipedia criteria should be to consider to have been simultaneously shot in a language; specifically all scenes or few scenes could be considered as simultaneously shot.
I fell we are kind of going in circles repeating the same thing again with rest of the information, the gist of this conversation boils down to these established points of information so far.
My take on the whole thing is that it might be best if we include Tamil in the lead paragraph mentioning multiple scenes being shot in it and avoid adding it under info box as these details cannot be represented there. Cyphoidbomb Ripapart ( talk) 18:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Did anyone who are making comments really listen to the interview in which Prabhas said about Tamil while talking about Baahubali but not about Saaho? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.252.78 ( talk) 09:06, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
"The film was not shot entirely in Tamil some scenes were shot in Tamil."Even if this claim were substantiated (and I don't know if it has been yet), why would it matter what percentage was filmed? Filming is expensive. If they used dubbing as a shortcut for some scenes where matching lips wasn't crucial, that's their prerogative. If any significant shots were filmed in Tamil, even if it were only one, that should qualify it as being "simultaneously shot in Tamil". Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:43, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
|language=
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Selena (film) lists English and Spanish, because characters in the film speak either or both languages. Were all the scenes shot in Spanish? No. Were all the scenes shot in English? No. Some scenes were shot in English and some were shot in Spanish. In this instance, both languages walk side-by-side in the film. But why would it be any different for Tamil? If any scenes were shot in Tamil, that could qualify it as a multi-lingual film, especially if it's intended to be released entirely in Tamil, partly dubbed or not. There is no requirement that every dialogue shot has to be filmed in X-language in order for it to be considered a film shot in that language.
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Cyphoidbomb, if you claim that even if a single scene is shot in any language, that language should be included in the language list, then I can show you the proofs of umpteen number of Tamil films in which some scenes are shot in Telugu language. Shall we change all those films' language list in Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.254.50 ( talk) 17:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Cyphoidbomb, I am not taking your comment out of context, it is very much relevant to the context. I want to say that if we include Tamil to the language list of Saaho, there are lot of standard sources available online saying that many scenes of Tamil movies are shot for Telugu audience. We may unnecessarily have to dig a whole lot of settled articles to include Telugu language in the language list of those articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.163.163 ( talk) 06:08, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Here is one more latest source which says that it was shot simultaneously in Hindi and Telugu only. https://www.indiatimes.com/entertainment/saaho-to-be-bigger-than-baahubali-even-before-its-release-prabhas-film-has-earned-rs-300-crore-373570.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.131.75 ( talk) 07:40, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Why is Malayalam not mentioned here ?, The film is being dubbed in malayalam, This source is similar to that film companion interview and WP:CIRCULAR as DeluxeVegan said, Totally invalid to be even mentioned and also stop making out of context straw man arguments, we should reflect how this film is marketed and what producers says. Panda619 ( talk) 08:00, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
BTW ; by the way indiatimes seems definitely like a much better source than that unprofessional producers’ site which you want to use. Ripapart ( talk) 08:32, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Goodness me. @ Cyphoidbomb: Please look at these heavily problematic ethnic-warrior edits from Ripapart's part (in particular, Anti-Tamil and pro Telugu): 1, 2, 3 (Blatant lie too), 4, 5. This certainly qualifies as disruptive editing. DeluxeVegan ( talk) 08:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Here comes another boomerang, if you are not in a position to convince, try to malign the image of the opponent so that you can convince others. I am not bothered about Ripapart's credentials, I am sticking to my point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.133.164 ( talk) 09:10, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
I have gone through all the references you have made about Ripapart, he has given explanation in every edit he made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.133.164 ( talk) 09:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Here is another latest source supporting Saaho was shot in Hindi and Telugu only. Here there is no mentioning of Tamil at all. https://www.news18.com/news/movies/sharddha-kapoor-says-prabhas-helped-her-in-learning-telugu-for-saaho-2275179.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.133.164 ( talk) 10:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
According to your view, shall we conclude that the earlier sources took a lead from Wikipedia, which had Tamil in the language list and hence mentioned Tamil language in their articles. So, we can finally go with the interview in which the lead actors specifying it as Hindi and Telugu movie only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.245.201 ( talk) 13:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
So, let us maintain the status quo as per the actors' interview until the producer of the movie makes a statement saying that it was shot in Tamil also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.131.233 ( talk) 14:35, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
It does not matter whether Tamil was removed 10 days back or 1 day back. It was removed after the lead actors' confessions. @ Fylindfotberserk Discussions arised because lead actors mentioned it as Hindi and Telugu movie in that interview. Otherwise, there would not be any discussions at all. Yes we had enough discussions, let us go with the actors' interview only until the producer makes a statement regarding Tamil language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.131.233 ( talk) 14:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
The source date is even before April 28, 2017 as it mentions that "Don't forget to catch the official teaser on April 28, 2017". The lead actors' interview is very recent. So, the actors, who are part of the film, will be knowing better than us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.131.233 ( talk) 15:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
"Nice catch ?dumb ! @fylindfotberserk you judge other editors too quickly"<-- Refrain from making personal attacks like that. You might get reported. Maintain civility. And this type of activity does look suspicious. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 15:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
@ DeluxeVegan, if the actors didn't say anything like that then this discussion might not have arised. Do you try to impose your opinion in Wikipedia because more number of editors taking your side without providing proper evidence? Since you could not show any proper evidence, as said by Ripapart you have started personally attacking Ripapart and others sang chorus with you. Fylindfotberserk I am not an anti-Tamil. I go by proofs. Come with solid proofs, we can add Tamil to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.144.173 ( talk) 16:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Shot in 3 languages does not mean that the whole movie is shot in 3 languages. May be partly some scenes. Let us wait for more concurrent sources. If any latest video floats from actors saying it bilingual, the current status will be reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.243.55 ( talk) 16:54, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Comment : Movie has released and the Tamil audio does not match lip movements of the characters onscreen. So Tamil can be removed. As far as the supposed "Gold Standard" of the production house is concerned. We do not consider Box office numbers provided by the production house to be sacrosanct. Common sense should prevail. Especially considering that there is plenty of evidence to backup the fact the production house might have had a vision to execute the movie in three languages but it did not see it through. I have not watched the Hindi version yet. Will watch and add my comments here again if necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Precisepie ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Mention that original language is telugu, since director, producers and lead role prabhas from telugu industry Charan321321 ( talk) 06:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Many people raising a doubt about original language.So, mention original language is telugu. Charan321321 ( talk) 07:02, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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1) In the CAST section, prabhas as "ASHOK CHAKRAVARTHY".
Source: 1) It's visible in the trailer at 0:27 182.18.177.138 ( talk) 13:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Not done Not clearly visible. Better to have an explicit source IMO. -
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Change Saaho (transl. Valour) to Saaho (transl. Hail or Cheers) because it is the actual meaning of the word Saaho. Kaishows ( talk) 05:18, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
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The film will also be dubbed and released in Malayalam. 2001:8F8:172D:5FFB:A0EA:6526:5D32:1B63 ( talk) 06:10, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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Add Runtime of the movie it's 172 minutes. 136.233.33.82 ( talk) 04:53, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
I was add new poster which was include full cast. I will promise u all users it was final poster and not change again and again. Sush150 ( talk) 06:48, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
But u updated image quality was not good plzz add my poster. Thank you Sush150 ( talk) 06:55, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
The makers of movie are created this poster. Why they not mention Hindi language I don't no?? Sush150 ( talk) 07:13, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@DeluxeVegan, now yrf is also post same poster in the there official twitter handle. Check now- https://twitter.com/yrf/status/1167355887876550661 Sush150 ( talk) 10:29, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Please add following section in the Reception section.
The film received mixed reviews, with criticism directed at it for VFX,screenplay and pacing, though Prabhas's performance was praised. Bollywood Hungama gave 2.5 out of 5 stars citing "SAAHO suffers from a lackadaisical script and a vacuous screenplay". [1] Thinkal Menon of Times of India also rated the film 2.5 out of 5 stars praising for technical aspects and criticizing script. [2] Taran Adarsh was also critical for Sahoo for being "Weak story, confusing screenplay and amateur direction". [3] However Ramesh Bala praised the movie for its Prabhas performance and action citing screenplay could have been better. [4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by IKamalkandel ( talk • contribs) 15:06, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Please note that this section is still in development.
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References
Please create a paragraph of box office collection Vikrant Dudhare ( talk) 03:48, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
500 cr Aarjun369 ( talk) 08:50, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
@ Cyphoidbomb and Ab207: Ok so going over the credits of the film for the Hindi, Telugu, and Tamil versions [5], [6], [7] Bhushan Kumar is no where credited as the producer of the film. In all 3 versions this is what is stated Produced by Vamsi-Pramod. With this I have came to a conclusion that T-Series films was just a presenter for this film in Hindi and not a producer by any means. Even in the poster itself Bhushan Kumar is not credited as a producer. SP013 ( talk) 15:39, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
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grammar Tarunq ( talk) 05:54, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
@ Ab207:@ Kailash29792:@ SP013: If the Tamil version is straight per CBFC then at least one scene should be in lip sync, correct? However, till date, it seems that there is no lip sync at all and which scene was shot in Tamil is unknown if not zero. By including Tamil in the infobox, it is misleading readers to think that this is a Tamil film. Even the only Tamil actor, Arun Vijay, lacks lips sync, which leads to the fact that this film was not shot in Tamil at all. Well known critic of The Hindu here in the Saaho review says "Saaho was simultaneously filmed in Telugu and Hindi, and dubbed in Tamil, Kannada and Malayalam", which looks very accurate. Another critic here said that "And it is largely dubbed in Tamil, leading to lip-sync issues". Here Shraddha Kapoor said that "It was quite challenging to dub in Telugu". Then what about Tamil, because she did not even mouth the Tamil lines, she didn't mention it (still proving that this is not a Tamil film). Here Prabhas talks about the Hindi dubbing and not Tamil. Here, Prabhas says that "I couldn’t dub for my character in Tamil, though, owing to lack of time" but what this really means is that the film was not shot in Tamil owing to lack of time.
Why can't secondary sources be taken into account instead of simply relying on the CBFC certificate? Do you guys have a link for the CBFC certificate? What if the film director's idea to film the Tamil version was dropped? DareshMohan ( talk) 05:54, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
"Yes, they dubbed many important scenes in Tamil, maybe even all": Lol
Filmed simultaneously in Hindi, Telugu, and Tamil languages→
Filmed simultaneously in Hindi and Telugu languages and partially reshot in Tamil
latter's debut in Telugu and Tamil cinema→
latter's debut in Telugu cinema
Kapoor shot her portions in Telugu and Hindi languages onlyshould go in that page too. DareshMohan ( talk) 09:44, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
many important scenes reshot in Tamil language as well. This is 100% false did the makers decide to drop their idea or did they lie for promotion sake? How do we cite this one reshot scene in article, can we cite the film itself? DareshMohan ( talk) 00:05, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Why is there no mention that this film is a box office bomb? If the production budget is 350 cr, then it must touch 525–700 cr for breakeven. But this film only grossed 432-439 cr. It is a box office bomb. Sandip 18:10, 18 June 2023 (UTC)