I don't know if this has come up before, but there is a slightly gushy and intimate tone that seems non-encyclopaedic. Easy to fix, but I don't know if others agree. Agent Cooper ( talk) 19:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
noooo and Howard Hong have been left out of the translators section. Their editions of his works seem to be the most widely used in the ethical/existential arena. Also, maybe more detail about the styles of translations is needed since they vary widely and Kierkegaard was given to innuendo. Hence a Christian would read his original text very differently to an Existentialist or 'Absurdist'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.134.140 ( talk) 05:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Please give an online link to the English translation of the book of Kierkegaard "Stages of the life course". It is a poor user of Russia. Need translation. I would be very grateful. Kirill-Hod ( talk) 17:04, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
What about adding a section on Kierkegaard's " Thorn in the flesh"? I edited a quotation here, but there is still much to say on this subject: from The Thorn in the Flesh on wikiquote to all these books: 1 & 2. And so on: [1] & [2]. -- Mauro Lanari ( talk) 08:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
They do not go one after the other, a Christian, normal perceive that as a distinct but related fields of reality. As for ethics,it does not come out sooner rather than religiosity and springs only, otherw12:56, 27 October 2012 (UTC) 93.136.51.137 ( talk)ise it would by itself have greatly changed the ethics of man, the world, and this is not the case. The case is that the human component of religiosity and the beginning of his, he's very easy to be called ethics, not knowing that ethics is not a product of effective implementation of the work of a variety of ethical ideals. And then, in religion, in the Holy Spirit and the love of the Father and of the Son, the only gifts flourish and human conscience is ripe for confession of sin. It often occurs in old age, but there are lots of examples and against such claims. However, we see a world that is growing up, it seems that much the world needs to age a bit and even then,not every man will be taken on the Re-entry.
I agree with previous editors who posted that this article is an incomprehensible, gushy, idiosyncratic mess that is cluttered with numerous quotes, some large enough to engulf a small village. It seems to have been taken on as a personal project by one or more editors, who need to learn that clarity and restraint are precious gifts to the reader. • Serviceable† Villain 09:32, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
I have removed this reference from the lead as I think it is inappropriate. In any case, I could not find trace on Google itself of the doodle mentioned either in the English or Danish search pages.-- Ipigott ( talk) 21:00, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi. There's a mistake somewhere in the text or background for the first of the long quotes in section 5. The latin quote de te narrator fabula is either wrong in the source or has been wrongly transcribed from the source, and the translation given is wrong however this might be. As written, the quote reads of you the storyteller the fable. In my opinion, it is likely that the original quote should be (literally) of you is told (the) fable, the correct form of the latin verb being narratur, which is the present tense 3. person singular passive. As I see it, this also makes the following parts of the long quote easier to understand, as the formal subject is included in the tale of the statistics. However, as I don't have the original source at hand, I'm unable to do the source-checking myself. Whether the error has been made by Swenson or the WP editor has consequences for the action to be taken. If the error is present in the source, it should be noted in the quote, at least with a [sic], but preferably, to reach a wider audience, with a comment in WP's voice along the lines of "Sic. The quote is wrongly translated in the source. The correct translation reads the fable is told of you." As an alternative "(Sic. see comment below)," with the full comment alongside the bibliographical comment at the end of the quote box, could be considered.
Best regards, benjamil talk/ edits 07:47, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
I came here solely as a reader, knowing very little about SK .... However I wonder what is the relevance of Peder Ludvig Møller, a young "seducer", the link merely leads to an Amazon cover, with no review : (Henrik Stangerup wrote a book called Seducer which identified Moller as a seducer; see this review of his book from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Seducer-Henrik-Stangerup/dp/0714529869).
If Møller having been identified as a seducer is NOT relevant to the Corsair affair, it doesn't seem to belong here. The effect on me as a reader was to assume that his being a seducer was in some way relevant to his altercation with SK, which it doesn't seem to be. If I am wrong, perhaps the article should make clearer the relevance, otherwise it just seems like 'tittle-tattle' from someone who APPEARS to be a writer of fiction. Pincrete ( talk) 19:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
I've just removed the 'seducer' reference, as the source is a novel (I had to go to Danish wikipedia to find that out) and the information seems anyway irrelevant to the Corsair affair. Pincrete ( talk) 18:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Curious why there are letters here that are not English? Especially in the Title page? Please fix. Presidentbalut ( talk) 02:43, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Nothing to fix. - SummerPhD ( talk) 13:59, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
So, what's his critique? Only a critique of his critique (that's why he is in the Philosophical Criticism section, I suppose?) is mentioned in the article. -- 88.78.37.16 ( talk) 14:00, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
I am interested in learning a bit more about Soren Kierkegaard just by looking and reading through the Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.253.7.138 ( talk) 18:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Since Kierkeagaard must have the record for being the philosopher with the most frequently mispronounced surname, this article deserves congratulations for putting a "listen" feature which pronounce his name properly. It could, however, give clearer indication of pronunciation of his surname using Latin letters - how about "keer - ke - gawr"? Vorbee ( talk) 17:28, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
This article mentions Hegel at quite an early stage in the article. Perhaps it could mention, as the Macmillan one-volume encyclopaedia says, that while Kierkegaard was critical of Hegel, he remained under Hegel's influence. Vorbee ( talk) 19:47, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Should the section on Regine Olsen also add that Kierkegaard is alleged to have said "It is better to be inspired by a woman than to live with her"? The section could also add that Regine Olsen, unlike Kierkegaard himself, did later on get married. Vorbee ( talk) 15:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Forgive my ignorance, fellow Wikipedians:
Generally, my contributions are limited to adding to the lists of "influences" or "influenced," especially to Kierkegaard, one of the few individuals about which I feel semi-competent. Once or twice, I have added "Jesus" as an influence, only to have this reverted due to "writings, teachings and traditions about Jesus may have influenced Kierkegaard, but not Jesus himself." I objected to this by wondering if it is impossible to be influenced by Socrates but only by his commentators, that is, if to be considered a verifiable influence a body of written work is required? Most recently, I added the "New Testament," figuring that as a body of writing pervading not only SK's outlook (opinion, non-verifiable, I realize) but also containing discrete references, chapter and verse, throughout the Hong translations, that this as clear and evident, from whatever methodology, an influence as possibly be ascertained. This too was reverted, and a consensus asked for. What's the consensus? Thanks!
-- Riseabove2 ( talk) 02:45, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
When available should we use penguin classics or the original covers. DMT biscuit ( talk) 20:15, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
There are far too many pictures adding little to no value (why so many first pages of books???), mammoth quotations taking up dozens of lines, and text squeezed between two pieces of media repeatedly. I am thinking about excising a lot of this myself but wondering if any other talk page watchers want to collaborate with me on this. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 09:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
There is a very detailed Danish IPA pronunciation given for the name, with no sources. There is Danish audio (which can be considered original research). Basing our IPA pronunciation on it is clearly original research though and not acceptable due to WP:OR. I asked for a citation, but that was reverted. Adding this note here to justify my asking for a reasonable reference, considering I've been hearing anecdotal evidence about different pronunciation in Danish. roozbeh ( talk) 22:05, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
The section on Regine Olsen could point out that Kierkegaard said "It is better to be inspired by a woman than it is to live with her", if any one can find a source for this quotations. Rollo August ( talk) 21:05, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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For the image /info/en/?search=File:Kierkegaard_influences.jpg, The caption says "From left to right: Wolff, Holberg, Hamann, Lessing, Plato and Socrates", but the last image is another bust of Plato, not of Socrates. Annoyingly, this isn't a very simple fix and there isn't a good way to discuss it in Wikimedia commons. Kit Cloudkicker ( talk) 19:59, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
This quote cannot be found in the named citation, nor can I find it anywhere in The Essential Kierkegaard Kierkegaard, Søren, author.; Hong, Edna H., editor.; Hong, Howard V., editor. Course Book; Princeton, NJ : Princeton University Press; 2013
Kierkegaard, Søren, author.; Hong, Edna H., editor.; Hong, Howard V., editor. Course Book; Princeton, NJ : Princeton University Press; 2013
Can anyone help me with this checking this source and if it really cannot be found, should it be removed? Imagination56 ( talk) 03:09, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
This book about a philosopher is rather short. Nikolay Komarov ( talk) 20:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
The Lutheran denomination, and other self-claimed Christian denominations, would be wise to refrain from claiming unaffiliated philosophers in their attempts to increase their REIT-backed profit-margins. RagtimeRebel ( talk) 19:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
I don't know if this has come up before, but there is a slightly gushy and intimate tone that seems non-encyclopaedic. Easy to fix, but I don't know if others agree. Agent Cooper ( talk) 19:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
noooo and Howard Hong have been left out of the translators section. Their editions of his works seem to be the most widely used in the ethical/existential arena. Also, maybe more detail about the styles of translations is needed since they vary widely and Kierkegaard was given to innuendo. Hence a Christian would read his original text very differently to an Existentialist or 'Absurdist'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.134.140 ( talk) 05:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Please give an online link to the English translation of the book of Kierkegaard "Stages of the life course". It is a poor user of Russia. Need translation. I would be very grateful. Kirill-Hod ( talk) 17:04, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
What about adding a section on Kierkegaard's " Thorn in the flesh"? I edited a quotation here, but there is still much to say on this subject: from The Thorn in the Flesh on wikiquote to all these books: 1 & 2. And so on: [1] & [2]. -- Mauro Lanari ( talk) 08:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
They do not go one after the other, a Christian, normal perceive that as a distinct but related fields of reality. As for ethics,it does not come out sooner rather than religiosity and springs only, otherw12:56, 27 October 2012 (UTC) 93.136.51.137 ( talk)ise it would by itself have greatly changed the ethics of man, the world, and this is not the case. The case is that the human component of religiosity and the beginning of his, he's very easy to be called ethics, not knowing that ethics is not a product of effective implementation of the work of a variety of ethical ideals. And then, in religion, in the Holy Spirit and the love of the Father and of the Son, the only gifts flourish and human conscience is ripe for confession of sin. It often occurs in old age, but there are lots of examples and against such claims. However, we see a world that is growing up, it seems that much the world needs to age a bit and even then,not every man will be taken on the Re-entry.
I agree with previous editors who posted that this article is an incomprehensible, gushy, idiosyncratic mess that is cluttered with numerous quotes, some large enough to engulf a small village. It seems to have been taken on as a personal project by one or more editors, who need to learn that clarity and restraint are precious gifts to the reader. • Serviceable† Villain 09:32, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
I have removed this reference from the lead as I think it is inappropriate. In any case, I could not find trace on Google itself of the doodle mentioned either in the English or Danish search pages.-- Ipigott ( talk) 21:00, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi. There's a mistake somewhere in the text or background for the first of the long quotes in section 5. The latin quote de te narrator fabula is either wrong in the source or has been wrongly transcribed from the source, and the translation given is wrong however this might be. As written, the quote reads of you the storyteller the fable. In my opinion, it is likely that the original quote should be (literally) of you is told (the) fable, the correct form of the latin verb being narratur, which is the present tense 3. person singular passive. As I see it, this also makes the following parts of the long quote easier to understand, as the formal subject is included in the tale of the statistics. However, as I don't have the original source at hand, I'm unable to do the source-checking myself. Whether the error has been made by Swenson or the WP editor has consequences for the action to be taken. If the error is present in the source, it should be noted in the quote, at least with a [sic], but preferably, to reach a wider audience, with a comment in WP's voice along the lines of "Sic. The quote is wrongly translated in the source. The correct translation reads the fable is told of you." As an alternative "(Sic. see comment below)," with the full comment alongside the bibliographical comment at the end of the quote box, could be considered.
Best regards, benjamil talk/ edits 07:47, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
I came here solely as a reader, knowing very little about SK .... However I wonder what is the relevance of Peder Ludvig Møller, a young "seducer", the link merely leads to an Amazon cover, with no review : (Henrik Stangerup wrote a book called Seducer which identified Moller as a seducer; see this review of his book from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Seducer-Henrik-Stangerup/dp/0714529869).
If Møller having been identified as a seducer is NOT relevant to the Corsair affair, it doesn't seem to belong here. The effect on me as a reader was to assume that his being a seducer was in some way relevant to his altercation with SK, which it doesn't seem to be. If I am wrong, perhaps the article should make clearer the relevance, otherwise it just seems like 'tittle-tattle' from someone who APPEARS to be a writer of fiction. Pincrete ( talk) 19:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
I've just removed the 'seducer' reference, as the source is a novel (I had to go to Danish wikipedia to find that out) and the information seems anyway irrelevant to the Corsair affair. Pincrete ( talk) 18:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Curious why there are letters here that are not English? Especially in the Title page? Please fix. Presidentbalut ( talk) 02:43, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Nothing to fix. - SummerPhD ( talk) 13:59, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
So, what's his critique? Only a critique of his critique (that's why he is in the Philosophical Criticism section, I suppose?) is mentioned in the article. -- 88.78.37.16 ( talk) 14:00, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
I am interested in learning a bit more about Soren Kierkegaard just by looking and reading through the Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.253.7.138 ( talk) 18:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Since Kierkeagaard must have the record for being the philosopher with the most frequently mispronounced surname, this article deserves congratulations for putting a "listen" feature which pronounce his name properly. It could, however, give clearer indication of pronunciation of his surname using Latin letters - how about "keer - ke - gawr"? Vorbee ( talk) 17:28, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
This article mentions Hegel at quite an early stage in the article. Perhaps it could mention, as the Macmillan one-volume encyclopaedia says, that while Kierkegaard was critical of Hegel, he remained under Hegel's influence. Vorbee ( talk) 19:47, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Should the section on Regine Olsen also add that Kierkegaard is alleged to have said "It is better to be inspired by a woman than to live with her"? The section could also add that Regine Olsen, unlike Kierkegaard himself, did later on get married. Vorbee ( talk) 15:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Forgive my ignorance, fellow Wikipedians:
Generally, my contributions are limited to adding to the lists of "influences" or "influenced," especially to Kierkegaard, one of the few individuals about which I feel semi-competent. Once or twice, I have added "Jesus" as an influence, only to have this reverted due to "writings, teachings and traditions about Jesus may have influenced Kierkegaard, but not Jesus himself." I objected to this by wondering if it is impossible to be influenced by Socrates but only by his commentators, that is, if to be considered a verifiable influence a body of written work is required? Most recently, I added the "New Testament," figuring that as a body of writing pervading not only SK's outlook (opinion, non-verifiable, I realize) but also containing discrete references, chapter and verse, throughout the Hong translations, that this as clear and evident, from whatever methodology, an influence as possibly be ascertained. This too was reverted, and a consensus asked for. What's the consensus? Thanks!
-- Riseabove2 ( talk) 02:45, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
When available should we use penguin classics or the original covers. DMT biscuit ( talk) 20:15, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
There are far too many pictures adding little to no value (why so many first pages of books???), mammoth quotations taking up dozens of lines, and text squeezed between two pieces of media repeatedly. I am thinking about excising a lot of this myself but wondering if any other talk page watchers want to collaborate with me on this. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 09:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
There is a very detailed Danish IPA pronunciation given for the name, with no sources. There is Danish audio (which can be considered original research). Basing our IPA pronunciation on it is clearly original research though and not acceptable due to WP:OR. I asked for a citation, but that was reverted. Adding this note here to justify my asking for a reasonable reference, considering I've been hearing anecdotal evidence about different pronunciation in Danish. roozbeh ( talk) 22:05, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
The section on Regine Olsen could point out that Kierkegaard said "It is better to be inspired by a woman than it is to live with her", if any one can find a source for this quotations. Rollo August ( talk) 21:05, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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For the image /info/en/?search=File:Kierkegaard_influences.jpg, The caption says "From left to right: Wolff, Holberg, Hamann, Lessing, Plato and Socrates", but the last image is another bust of Plato, not of Socrates. Annoyingly, this isn't a very simple fix and there isn't a good way to discuss it in Wikimedia commons. Kit Cloudkicker ( talk) 19:59, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
This quote cannot be found in the named citation, nor can I find it anywhere in The Essential Kierkegaard Kierkegaard, Søren, author.; Hong, Edna H., editor.; Hong, Howard V., editor. Course Book; Princeton, NJ : Princeton University Press; 2013
Kierkegaard, Søren, author.; Hong, Edna H., editor.; Hong, Howard V., editor. Course Book; Princeton, NJ : Princeton University Press; 2013
Can anyone help me with this checking this source and if it really cannot be found, should it be removed? Imagination56 ( talk) 03:09, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
This book about a philosopher is rather short. Nikolay Komarov ( talk) 20:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
The Lutheran denomination, and other self-claimed Christian denominations, would be wise to refrain from claiming unaffiliated philosophers in their attempts to increase their REIT-backed profit-margins. RagtimeRebel ( talk) 19:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)