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As I recall, Barrington was responsible for a number of the gags and one-liners that, though not in the first night librettos, were generally approved by Gilbert, and made their way into the libretto. An example, as I recall, was Pooh-Bah's line after told that he and the coconspirators are to be executed after luncheon, "I don't want any luncheon." Perhaps some mention could be made. I'm not positive, but I think his interjections were the subject of the famous exchange between (I think) D'Oyly Carte and Queen Victoria, who asked about the lines not found in the libretto (which she had been following) and she was told they were gags. "Gags? I thought those were things put in peoples' mouths by authority?" "No, ma'am, these are things put by people in their own mouths without authority." -- Wehwalt ( talk) 17:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I had such a great time reading this article despite the fact that I knew nothing about Barrington beforehand. It fulfills a majority of the Good Article criteria (it is comprehensive, fantastically illustrated, stable, neutral, and well referenced), but it needs a little work on the prose several formatting/MOS styles. Some suggestions and comments:
No first name usage, big no-no. Also, since the 1908 autobiography is in the past, it should be referred to in the past tense. That goes for "goes on to say" and "says", as well.
Again, this article is a great overview and I'd love to pass it after some of the formatting and prose issues have been resolved. For now, however, I'm going to put it on hold to give the contributors some time. If there are any questions or comments about this review, please do contact me on my talk page. Just let me know when you're ready for me to take another look! Thanks. María ( habla con migo) 02:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all your excellent comments! -- Ssilvers ( talk) 13:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
This is a nice article, but I just don't think there's room in Version 0.7 for this one. Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 04:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I removed this new addition: John Faithfull Fleet, C.I.E(1847-1917) another of the brothers was an Indian Civil Service officer with the erstwhile Her Majesties Indian Civil Service and also an eminent Indologist, Epigraphist and Linguist because no reference was given. Wikipedia depends on bibliographic citations to WP:Reliable sources. See also WP:V. Where did you get this information? Best regards, -- Ssilvers ( talk) 16:54, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Fleet and Barrington do seem to be brothers, since their parents have the same names, but I do not see a source that specifically says so. Have you seen such a source? -- Ssilvers ( talk) 18:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Please do not add an infobox to this article. The use of infoboxes in WP articles is optional. The Manual of Style says: "Whether to include an infobox ... and which parts of the infobox to use, is determined through discussion and consensus among the editors at each individual article." See also WP:DISINFOBOX. While sports and politician bios can benefit from infoboxes, most articles, as here, do not. Here are some reasons why I disagree with including an infobox in this article: (1) The box emphasizes unimportant factoids, and all the facts it presents are stripped of context and lacking nuance, whereas the WP:LEAD section emphasizes and contextualizes the most important facts. (2) The most important points about the article are discussed in the Lead, so the box is redundant. (3) It takes up valuable space at the top of the article and hampers the layout and impact of the Lead. (4) Frequent errors creep into infoboxes, as updates are made to the articles but not reflected in the redundant info in the box, and they tend to draw more vandalism and fancruft than other parts of articles. (5) The infobox template creates a lot of code near the top of the edit screen that discourages new editors from editing the article. (6) It discourages readers from reading the article. (7) It distracts editors from focusing on the content of the article. Instead of improving the article, they spend time working on this repetitive feature and its coding and formatting. (8) I am particularly familiar with the Gilbert and Sullivan-related articles on Wikipedia, and throughout the articles within the scope of WikiProject G&S, the consensus has been not to have infoboxes, so adding an infobox would degrade the consistency of design throughout these articles. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 19:58, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
As I have said on previous occasions, I cannot see that infoboxes serve any useful purpose, especially when all the relevant information is already included in the lead, as in this article. In addition, we have a policy on the G&S Project not to include optional infoboxes in the articles. Jack1956 ( talk) 20:31, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
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As I recall, Barrington was responsible for a number of the gags and one-liners that, though not in the first night librettos, were generally approved by Gilbert, and made their way into the libretto. An example, as I recall, was Pooh-Bah's line after told that he and the coconspirators are to be executed after luncheon, "I don't want any luncheon." Perhaps some mention could be made. I'm not positive, but I think his interjections were the subject of the famous exchange between (I think) D'Oyly Carte and Queen Victoria, who asked about the lines not found in the libretto (which she had been following) and she was told they were gags. "Gags? I thought those were things put in peoples' mouths by authority?" "No, ma'am, these are things put by people in their own mouths without authority." -- Wehwalt ( talk) 17:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I had such a great time reading this article despite the fact that I knew nothing about Barrington beforehand. It fulfills a majority of the Good Article criteria (it is comprehensive, fantastically illustrated, stable, neutral, and well referenced), but it needs a little work on the prose several formatting/MOS styles. Some suggestions and comments:
No first name usage, big no-no. Also, since the 1908 autobiography is in the past, it should be referred to in the past tense. That goes for "goes on to say" and "says", as well.
Again, this article is a great overview and I'd love to pass it after some of the formatting and prose issues have been resolved. For now, however, I'm going to put it on hold to give the contributors some time. If there are any questions or comments about this review, please do contact me on my talk page. Just let me know when you're ready for me to take another look! Thanks. María ( habla con migo) 02:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all your excellent comments! -- Ssilvers ( talk) 13:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
This is a nice article, but I just don't think there's room in Version 0.7 for this one. Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 04:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I removed this new addition: John Faithfull Fleet, C.I.E(1847-1917) another of the brothers was an Indian Civil Service officer with the erstwhile Her Majesties Indian Civil Service and also an eminent Indologist, Epigraphist and Linguist because no reference was given. Wikipedia depends on bibliographic citations to WP:Reliable sources. See also WP:V. Where did you get this information? Best regards, -- Ssilvers ( talk) 16:54, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Fleet and Barrington do seem to be brothers, since their parents have the same names, but I do not see a source that specifically says so. Have you seen such a source? -- Ssilvers ( talk) 18:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Please do not add an infobox to this article. The use of infoboxes in WP articles is optional. The Manual of Style says: "Whether to include an infobox ... and which parts of the infobox to use, is determined through discussion and consensus among the editors at each individual article." See also WP:DISINFOBOX. While sports and politician bios can benefit from infoboxes, most articles, as here, do not. Here are some reasons why I disagree with including an infobox in this article: (1) The box emphasizes unimportant factoids, and all the facts it presents are stripped of context and lacking nuance, whereas the WP:LEAD section emphasizes and contextualizes the most important facts. (2) The most important points about the article are discussed in the Lead, so the box is redundant. (3) It takes up valuable space at the top of the article and hampers the layout and impact of the Lead. (4) Frequent errors creep into infoboxes, as updates are made to the articles but not reflected in the redundant info in the box, and they tend to draw more vandalism and fancruft than other parts of articles. (5) The infobox template creates a lot of code near the top of the edit screen that discourages new editors from editing the article. (6) It discourages readers from reading the article. (7) It distracts editors from focusing on the content of the article. Instead of improving the article, they spend time working on this repetitive feature and its coding and formatting. (8) I am particularly familiar with the Gilbert and Sullivan-related articles on Wikipedia, and throughout the articles within the scope of WikiProject G&S, the consensus has been not to have infoboxes, so adding an infobox would degrade the consistency of design throughout these articles. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 19:58, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
As I have said on previous occasions, I cannot see that infoboxes serve any useful purpose, especially when all the relevant information is already included in the lead, as in this article. In addition, we have a policy on the G&S Project not to include optional infoboxes in the articles. Jack1956 ( talk) 20:31, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
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