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I note this has been archived. I will take a look and copyedit sometime in the two week lockout period before renomination. Alet me if I haven't returned within a week. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 21:56, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
To continue improvements to this article before its next FA submission, I've copied the yet-unresolved comments from the 1st FAC below:
Trebor: I think I've clarified the issues you listed:
-- Coemgenus 14:23, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Would it make more sense to do a GA nomination as a next step? Racepacket ( talk) 06:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Racepacket ( talk) 21:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC) No disamb. or bad links.
Article is greatly improved since last GA review.
See my replies above. Racepacket ( talk) 23:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC) Congratulations. This article has come a long way with your efforts. Racepacket ( talk) 04:34, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
I believe that there needs to be something mentioned about the U.S. Naval decline and the Star Route Postal Contracts. The Navy may have reached the lowest ebb under Hayes; the decline having started under Grant. The Star Route scandal; a scandal under Grant; may have restarted under Hayes. Cmguy777 ( talk) 07:29, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Hayes was President from 1877 to 1881 and responsible for both the Department of Navy and the Postal Service. The New York Times mentions Sec. Maynard. Hayes appointed Maynard. Hayes also appointed the Secretary of the Navy. The timeline in the Miller book for the Naval decline was, according to Miller, between 1869 and 1881. Hayes was President during this timeline stated by Miller. The "Jeanette" arctic expedition was launched during the Hayes presidency and was under authority of the Department of Navy and President Hayes, while Hayes was President. The NYT articles goes over the history of the Star Route scandal, not just during Garfield's presidency. Cmguy777 ( talk) 20:58, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Here is what I would write on the Star routes:
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How about this:
I'd place it in the "Civil service reform" section, to contrast the reforms that did happen with those that didn't. I'd also like to search for some scholarly assessment of Hayes's role in this scandal. Newspapers were nakedly partisan in those days, and it would add some perspective if we could find some sober-minded analysis by an historian who wasn't caught up with the politics of the day the way reporters are. I'll look around JSTOR and see what can be had. -- Coemgenus 12:34, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
I think this provides a brief, balanced assessment:
Yes. That is a good paragraph! I would specifically mention the Detroit Free Press rather then say "Some". Brady and others were indicted. United States Federal Judge Andrew Wylie, an Abraham Lincoln appointment, ruled there was compelling evidence for the indictments. The paragraph is expanding, however, as long a neutrality is in the article. Wylie claimed there was enough evidence that there was a conpiracy to gain money from the government by illegal methods. Here is the link: The Brady Indictments. Did Trefouse state "modern historians" or did Trefouse make the statement, "hardly knew the chief suspect [Brady] and certainly had no connection with the corruption." If Trefousse made that statement I would put "Historian Trefousse stated Hayes "hardly knew the..."" Cmguy777 ( talk) 17:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
This would by my rewrite:
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I'm basically on-board with that. I added a topic sentence and some details.
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What do you think? -- Coemgenus 23:35, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Looks good! I recommend to put the paragraph in the article. The "star routes" scandal has been mentioned in the Ulysses S. Grant presidential administration. Congress had investigated the "star routes" in 1872 and 1876. The postal graft continued through Garfield and Arthur. Cmguy777 ( talk) 00:45, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
That is a good article. Brady's conviction was overturned. That is interesting. Possibly the Library of Congress might have a photo. Worth a try. Cmguy777 ( talk) 02:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Brady led an interesting life. I could not find any photos of Thomas. J. Brady at the Library of Congress. I am going to try "Find a grave". Cmguy777 ( talk) 02:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I could not find any grave or photos for Thomas J. Brady at "Find a Grave". This guy may have been camera shy. Who knows? Cmguy777 ( talk) 02:50, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
From what I read in the New York Times articles two members in the inidicted group in the first 1882 trial were found guilty, however, in the second trial in 1883 all indicted members were found not guilty. The two who were found guilty in the first trial had their guilty verdicts overturned by the second jury. In the first trial, the jurists could not reach a decision on Brady. Cmguy777 ( talk) 17:06, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
I believe the Jeanette naval expidition is worth mentioning. Exploring the artic region was very popular while Hayes was President. Maybe a paragraph can be written on the subject. Cmguy777 ( talk) 21:45, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
OK. Here is a web link: Jeannette Arctic Expedition, 1879-1881 Overview and Selected Images. The crew drifted on the ice for 21 months! The ship was private, yet, 33 Navy officers were in charge of the expedition. The web site called the expedition, "an epic Arctic adventure that defines the limits of human will and endurance in an overwhelmingly distant and hostile environment." The key question is how much did President Hayes know of the Jeanette and how he authorized the expedition. Cmguy777 ( talk) 00:57, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I think this is a bit tangential. A look through the scholarly sources on Hayes shows no mentions of this ship or its voyages. Not everything that transpired in Hayes's four years in office should be in this article. Remember that it is written in summary style. The New York Times has articles in it every day about the Obama administration, yet most of them are not included in the Barack Obama article. If the scholarly sources pay it no mind, neither should this much shorter encyclopedia article. -- Coemgenus 19:01, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I formatted/centered the caption text to Hayes' stamp, adding note that stamp was issued on the 100th aniv of Hayes' birth. ( Some html is ok if used sparingly) Presently the placement of the stamp seems a bit odd. Noting that the Rutherford page doesn't have much of a 'closing' perhaps a legacy section which includes the stamp image (and other images?) with words that bring Rutherford's legacy/biography to a close might be a consideration. Gwillhickers ( talk) 20:39, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I believe a section on Indian Policy during Hayes' presidency would be appropriate for the article. The section could cover Sec. Shurz reform in the Interior Department and Hayes' support of Indian education and citizenship. Cmguy777 ( talk) 15:39, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
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Ponca Indian second removal, President Hayes set up a commission that ruled Ponca Indians were free to resettle their orginal homeland or stay on their reservation in Nebraska.
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[5] The Poncas were awarded compensation for their land rights having been taken away, previously by mistake to the
Sioux nation, under the Grant Administration.
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[5] In a message to Congress, President Hayes insisted he would "give to these injured people [Ponca] that measure of redress which is required alike by justice and by humanity."
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[9] The Ponca were awarded compensation for their land rights, previously granted by mistake to the
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23:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)The clean up looks good. The other sources would possibly add different view points. Thanks, Coemgenus. Cmguy777 ( talk) 00:09, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
On this wikipedia page it claims that Rutherford B. Hayes was the first African-American to hold the office of president. I know for a fact that Rutherford B. Hayes was not African-American, so this information is incorrect. It should be changed unless I am misunderstanding the sentence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.133.190 ( talk) 03:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Tony Reali just mentioned this article on Pardon the Interruption. His mentioned concerned the fact that people have been messing with what his middle name has stood for Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 23:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Some random croatian name is at the end of the first section saying BLAH BLAH is best. Could someone from wikipedia take care of this since how it is on the first page and is under protection so we can't take it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.234.3 ( talk) 18:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
A popular story about Hayes claims that, when presented with the newly-invented telephone, he said “It’s a great invention, but who would ever want to use one?”. The story implies that Hayes was not welcoming of new technology.
Neither the quotation nor the implication is true, according to the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center in Fremont, Ohio. In fact, Hayes was the first president to have a telephone in the White House, the first to use the typewriter, and he had Thomas Edison come to the White House to demonstrate his phonograph.
HamJohn ( talk) 14:10, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
-- Pawyilee ( talk) 11:02, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Sproat (1974) p. 173.
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I believe the article needs perspective on Civil Service Reform. Mentioning that President Grant was the first President to establish Civil Service Reform in 1871 would improve the article. The Civil Service Commission was created by President Grant and lasted for two years, however, Congress, especially the Senate who relied heavily on patronage or the spoils system discontinued the Commission. President Hayes was attempting to reestablish Civil Service that President Grant had started. Any objections? Cmguy777 ( talk) 05:57, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
The Civil Service Commission was in legal existance while Hayes was President, having been started by President Grant, as President Hayes stated in his 1877 First Message to Congress. The issue was funding the Commission, that had already been implemented by President Grant from 1872 to 1874. President Hayes was in fact using the Civil Service Commission started by President Grant. The current article does not acknowledge that the Civil Service Commission was in legal existance and leads reader to believe the Pendelton Act was the first Civil Service Reform. Yes. The United States Civil Service Commission needs expansion and mention of President Grant.
At least the article needs to mention that President Hayes attempted to renew the Civil Service Commission started by President Grant. Cmguy777 ( talk) 22:24, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
My concern is whether from reading this article that the reader will conclude that President Hayes was the first President to initiate or promote Civil Service reform rather then President Grant. The United States Civil Service Commission started in 1871. In fact, the Civil Service Commission was legally in existance during President Hayes administration, as President Hayes stated in his 1877 Annual Message to Congress. What about mentioning that President Hayes sought Congressional funding for the Civil Service Commission? Cmguy777 ( talk) 17:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Modification:
Thanks Coemgenus. Your above sentence, I believe would be appropriate for the article. Cmguy777 ( talk) 06:53, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:President Rutherford Hayes 1870 - 1880 Restored.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on March 2, 2013. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2013-03-02. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 23:59, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
The following is the biographer's concluding quote in part which might be appropriate for inclusion in the article: "Hayes was a precursor of the Progressive movement. Profoundly believing in equal rights and deeply concerned over the threat of plutocracy, he had faith that federal regulation would restore a balance in society and save American democracy...Near the end of his life, Hayes perhaps most accurately assessed his own position, concluding, 'I am a radical in thought (and principle) and a conservative in method (and conduct).' " Hoppyh ( talk) 01:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Also, on p.194 Hoogenboom has a great pic of Congressman Hayes. I haven't succeeded in finding it anywhere. It would be a good substitute for the Johnson pic in the Congressman section. Hoppyh ( talk) 13:39, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
At Lincoln, somewhere in the GA process we were told/decided to remove all the multiple links to Donald (the primary source like H here) in the footnotes (see reference section). I wouldn't mind doing it here IF it's a potential issue. Apparently it hasn't come up. Hoppyh ( talk) 13:48, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
This is really strange. I am trying to add this section just above the "Political career" secton, but when I do, I encounter a problem--it deletes everything below it. Any explanations or suggestions?
12:59, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
According to the Hayes Presidential Center and other websites:
Why isn't this in the article? p b p 04:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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- - MrBill3 ( talk) 11:46, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
This photo is not of Rutherford B. Hayes, or at least not the Hayes that was the 19th President of the United States. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.58.48.139 ( talk) 04:11, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Presidents elect take the oath in the morning, before noon (except in extenuating circumstances). The term then begins at noon that day. Hayes took the oath privately but officially, on Saturday, March 3. Publically on Monday, March 5. He was already president when he did so. Look at the references for confirmation of same. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:35, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
[1], [2], [3], for starters. Please use common sense: if he took the oath officially on the 3rd but publicly on the 5th, why take it on the 3rd at all if he didn't start his term on the 3rd? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 02:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Rutherford B. Hayes (President) is the third generation of RBH's. Why is President Hayes not Rutherford B. Hayes III? Is is because his father had died before his birth? All this because I am trying to clarify President Hayes' relation to his various successful Noyes cousins, and the Wikipedia entries on the family history is light. GeeBee60 ( talk) 14:20, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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I note this has been archived. I will take a look and copyedit sometime in the two week lockout period before renomination. Alet me if I haven't returned within a week. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 21:56, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
To continue improvements to this article before its next FA submission, I've copied the yet-unresolved comments from the 1st FAC below:
Trebor: I think I've clarified the issues you listed:
-- Coemgenus 14:23, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Would it make more sense to do a GA nomination as a next step? Racepacket ( talk) 06:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
GA toolbox |
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Reviewing |
Reviewer: Racepacket ( talk) 21:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC) No disamb. or bad links.
Article is greatly improved since last GA review.
See my replies above. Racepacket ( talk) 23:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC) Congratulations. This article has come a long way with your efforts. Racepacket ( talk) 04:34, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
I believe that there needs to be something mentioned about the U.S. Naval decline and the Star Route Postal Contracts. The Navy may have reached the lowest ebb under Hayes; the decline having started under Grant. The Star Route scandal; a scandal under Grant; may have restarted under Hayes. Cmguy777 ( talk) 07:29, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Hayes was President from 1877 to 1881 and responsible for both the Department of Navy and the Postal Service. The New York Times mentions Sec. Maynard. Hayes appointed Maynard. Hayes also appointed the Secretary of the Navy. The timeline in the Miller book for the Naval decline was, according to Miller, between 1869 and 1881. Hayes was President during this timeline stated by Miller. The "Jeanette" arctic expedition was launched during the Hayes presidency and was under authority of the Department of Navy and President Hayes, while Hayes was President. The NYT articles goes over the history of the Star Route scandal, not just during Garfield's presidency. Cmguy777 ( talk) 20:58, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Here is what I would write on the Star routes:
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How about this:
I'd place it in the "Civil service reform" section, to contrast the reforms that did happen with those that didn't. I'd also like to search for some scholarly assessment of Hayes's role in this scandal. Newspapers were nakedly partisan in those days, and it would add some perspective if we could find some sober-minded analysis by an historian who wasn't caught up with the politics of the day the way reporters are. I'll look around JSTOR and see what can be had. -- Coemgenus 12:34, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
I think this provides a brief, balanced assessment:
Yes. That is a good paragraph! I would specifically mention the Detroit Free Press rather then say "Some". Brady and others were indicted. United States Federal Judge Andrew Wylie, an Abraham Lincoln appointment, ruled there was compelling evidence for the indictments. The paragraph is expanding, however, as long a neutrality is in the article. Wylie claimed there was enough evidence that there was a conpiracy to gain money from the government by illegal methods. Here is the link: The Brady Indictments. Did Trefouse state "modern historians" or did Trefouse make the statement, "hardly knew the chief suspect [Brady] and certainly had no connection with the corruption." If Trefousse made that statement I would put "Historian Trefousse stated Hayes "hardly knew the..."" Cmguy777 ( talk) 17:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
This would by my rewrite:
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I'm basically on-board with that. I added a topic sentence and some details.
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What do you think? -- Coemgenus 23:35, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Looks good! I recommend to put the paragraph in the article. The "star routes" scandal has been mentioned in the Ulysses S. Grant presidential administration. Congress had investigated the "star routes" in 1872 and 1876. The postal graft continued through Garfield and Arthur. Cmguy777 ( talk) 00:45, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
That is a good article. Brady's conviction was overturned. That is interesting. Possibly the Library of Congress might have a photo. Worth a try. Cmguy777 ( talk) 02:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Brady led an interesting life. I could not find any photos of Thomas. J. Brady at the Library of Congress. I am going to try "Find a grave". Cmguy777 ( talk) 02:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I could not find any grave or photos for Thomas J. Brady at "Find a Grave". This guy may have been camera shy. Who knows? Cmguy777 ( talk) 02:50, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
From what I read in the New York Times articles two members in the inidicted group in the first 1882 trial were found guilty, however, in the second trial in 1883 all indicted members were found not guilty. The two who were found guilty in the first trial had their guilty verdicts overturned by the second jury. In the first trial, the jurists could not reach a decision on Brady. Cmguy777 ( talk) 17:06, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
I believe the Jeanette naval expidition is worth mentioning. Exploring the artic region was very popular while Hayes was President. Maybe a paragraph can be written on the subject. Cmguy777 ( talk) 21:45, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
OK. Here is a web link: Jeannette Arctic Expedition, 1879-1881 Overview and Selected Images. The crew drifted on the ice for 21 months! The ship was private, yet, 33 Navy officers were in charge of the expedition. The web site called the expedition, "an epic Arctic adventure that defines the limits of human will and endurance in an overwhelmingly distant and hostile environment." The key question is how much did President Hayes know of the Jeanette and how he authorized the expedition. Cmguy777 ( talk) 00:57, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I think this is a bit tangential. A look through the scholarly sources on Hayes shows no mentions of this ship or its voyages. Not everything that transpired in Hayes's four years in office should be in this article. Remember that it is written in summary style. The New York Times has articles in it every day about the Obama administration, yet most of them are not included in the Barack Obama article. If the scholarly sources pay it no mind, neither should this much shorter encyclopedia article. -- Coemgenus 19:01, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I formatted/centered the caption text to Hayes' stamp, adding note that stamp was issued on the 100th aniv of Hayes' birth. ( Some html is ok if used sparingly) Presently the placement of the stamp seems a bit odd. Noting that the Rutherford page doesn't have much of a 'closing' perhaps a legacy section which includes the stamp image (and other images?) with words that bring Rutherford's legacy/biography to a close might be a consideration. Gwillhickers ( talk) 20:39, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I believe a section on Indian Policy during Hayes' presidency would be appropriate for the article. The section could cover Sec. Shurz reform in the Interior Department and Hayes' support of Indian education and citizenship. Cmguy777 ( talk) 15:39, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
<ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page). Tactfully over ruling Sec. Shurz demand on the
Ponca Indian second removal, President Hayes set up a commission that ruled Ponca Indians were free to resettle their orginal homeland or stay on their reservation in Nebraska.
[4]
[5] The Poncas were awarded compensation for their land rights having been taken away, previously by mistake to the
Sioux nation, under the Grant Administration.
[4]
[5] In a message to Congress, President Hayes insisted he would "give to these injured people [Ponca] that measure of redress which is required alike by justice and by humanity."
[4]
Cmguy777 (
talk)
23:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)<ref>
tag has too many names (see the
help page).
[9] The Ponca were awarded compensation for their land rights, previously granted by mistake to the
Sioux during the Grant Administration.
[8]
[9] In a message to Congress, Hayes insisted he would "give to these injured people [Ponca] that measure of redress which is required alike by justice and by humanity."
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23:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)The clean up looks good. The other sources would possibly add different view points. Thanks, Coemgenus. Cmguy777 ( talk) 00:09, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
On this wikipedia page it claims that Rutherford B. Hayes was the first African-American to hold the office of president. I know for a fact that Rutherford B. Hayes was not African-American, so this information is incorrect. It should be changed unless I am misunderstanding the sentence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.133.190 ( talk) 03:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Tony Reali just mentioned this article on Pardon the Interruption. His mentioned concerned the fact that people have been messing with what his middle name has stood for Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 23:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Some random croatian name is at the end of the first section saying BLAH BLAH is best. Could someone from wikipedia take care of this since how it is on the first page and is under protection so we can't take it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.234.3 ( talk) 18:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
A popular story about Hayes claims that, when presented with the newly-invented telephone, he said “It’s a great invention, but who would ever want to use one?”. The story implies that Hayes was not welcoming of new technology.
Neither the quotation nor the implication is true, according to the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center in Fremont, Ohio. In fact, Hayes was the first president to have a telephone in the White House, the first to use the typewriter, and he had Thomas Edison come to the White House to demonstrate his phonograph.
HamJohn ( talk) 14:10, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
-- Pawyilee ( talk) 11:02, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Sproat (1974) p. 173.
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I believe the article needs perspective on Civil Service Reform. Mentioning that President Grant was the first President to establish Civil Service Reform in 1871 would improve the article. The Civil Service Commission was created by President Grant and lasted for two years, however, Congress, especially the Senate who relied heavily on patronage or the spoils system discontinued the Commission. President Hayes was attempting to reestablish Civil Service that President Grant had started. Any objections? Cmguy777 ( talk) 05:57, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
The Civil Service Commission was in legal existance while Hayes was President, having been started by President Grant, as President Hayes stated in his 1877 First Message to Congress. The issue was funding the Commission, that had already been implemented by President Grant from 1872 to 1874. President Hayes was in fact using the Civil Service Commission started by President Grant. The current article does not acknowledge that the Civil Service Commission was in legal existance and leads reader to believe the Pendelton Act was the first Civil Service Reform. Yes. The United States Civil Service Commission needs expansion and mention of President Grant.
At least the article needs to mention that President Hayes attempted to renew the Civil Service Commission started by President Grant. Cmguy777 ( talk) 22:24, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
My concern is whether from reading this article that the reader will conclude that President Hayes was the first President to initiate or promote Civil Service reform rather then President Grant. The United States Civil Service Commission started in 1871. In fact, the Civil Service Commission was legally in existance during President Hayes administration, as President Hayes stated in his 1877 Annual Message to Congress. What about mentioning that President Hayes sought Congressional funding for the Civil Service Commission? Cmguy777 ( talk) 17:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Modification:
Thanks Coemgenus. Your above sentence, I believe would be appropriate for the article. Cmguy777 ( talk) 06:53, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:President Rutherford Hayes 1870 - 1880 Restored.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on March 2, 2013. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2013-03-02. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 23:59, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
The following is the biographer's concluding quote in part which might be appropriate for inclusion in the article: "Hayes was a precursor of the Progressive movement. Profoundly believing in equal rights and deeply concerned over the threat of plutocracy, he had faith that federal regulation would restore a balance in society and save American democracy...Near the end of his life, Hayes perhaps most accurately assessed his own position, concluding, 'I am a radical in thought (and principle) and a conservative in method (and conduct).' " Hoppyh ( talk) 01:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Also, on p.194 Hoogenboom has a great pic of Congressman Hayes. I haven't succeeded in finding it anywhere. It would be a good substitute for the Johnson pic in the Congressman section. Hoppyh ( talk) 13:39, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
At Lincoln, somewhere in the GA process we were told/decided to remove all the multiple links to Donald (the primary source like H here) in the footnotes (see reference section). I wouldn't mind doing it here IF it's a potential issue. Apparently it hasn't come up. Hoppyh ( talk) 13:48, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
This is really strange. I am trying to add this section just above the "Political career" secton, but when I do, I encounter a problem--it deletes everything below it. Any explanations or suggestions?
12:59, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
According to the Hayes Presidential Center and other websites:
Why isn't this in the article? p b p 04:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Ref not used [1]
- - MrBill3 ( talk) 11:46, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
This photo is not of Rutherford B. Hayes, or at least not the Hayes that was the 19th President of the United States. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.58.48.139 ( talk) 04:11, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Presidents elect take the oath in the morning, before noon (except in extenuating circumstances). The term then begins at noon that day. Hayes took the oath privately but officially, on Saturday, March 3. Publically on Monday, March 5. He was already president when he did so. Look at the references for confirmation of same. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:35, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
[1], [2], [3], for starters. Please use common sense: if he took the oath officially on the 3rd but publicly on the 5th, why take it on the 3rd at all if he didn't start his term on the 3rd? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 02:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Rutherford B. Hayes (President) is the third generation of RBH's. Why is President Hayes not Rutherford B. Hayes III? Is is because his father had died before his birth? All this because I am trying to clarify President Hayes' relation to his various successful Noyes cousins, and the Wikipedia entries on the family history is light. GeeBee60 ( talk) 14:20, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hey @ Roseohioresident:
I think a politician even if he has been president should be mentioned as a politician in his article's catch phrase. Thanks in advance for your response.