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No,
Cinagroni, the "Rust Belt" is not a well-established geographical region such as
Appalachia or
New England. The current lead sentence is about useless: The Rust Belt is a region of the United States that has been experiencing industrial decline starting around 1980
as it even fails to define the subject - which region, where? There are certainly many more regions experiencing industrial decline across the US, but they aren't part of the "Rust Belt". This article could as well be called
Economic decline in the northeastern United States – it's mostly about deindustrialization and depopulation of that area, not about physical geography. The #Geography section sums it well: Since the term "Rust Belt" is used to refer to a set of economic and social conditions rather than to an overall geographical region of the United States, the Rust Belt has no precise boundaries. The extent to which a community may have been described as a "Rust Belt city" depends on how great a role industrial manufacturing played in its local economy
.
I strongly feel that this article falls more under the
WP:WORDISSUBJECT category than under the common format of geographic articles.
No such user (
talk)
09:32, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
Rust Belt is widely used and widely understood– in the US perhaps, but worldwide I'm not so sure. I'm currently browsing through British and Irish news sites, and the belt is frequently written about in the election context, and many of them do introduce the term in a single sentence (but continue to use it throughout) ( Independent); yet others use it from the outset assuming readers' familiarity (BBC). I'm willing to concede this one, I suppose. No such user ( talk) 14:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Could anyone please replace the 2018 estimates with fresh 2020 census numbers? They often tend to be higher than estimates. Thanks in advance! Ain92 ( talk) 11:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
I would like to raise two issues about the map at the beginning of the article:
1) The source for the 1954 data is simply not specified
2) As
this page makes clear, manufacturing decline went into a freefall in the 2000s, and the map stops at 2002
Could somebody please fix that? Esszet ( talk) 15:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
shouldn't new jersey be considered rust belt the article has trenton listed there and then there's newark and jersey city which were also major factory cities so I'm confused? 142.122.125.164 ( talk) 19:11, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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No,
Cinagroni, the "Rust Belt" is not a well-established geographical region such as
Appalachia or
New England. The current lead sentence is about useless: The Rust Belt is a region of the United States that has been experiencing industrial decline starting around 1980
as it even fails to define the subject - which region, where? There are certainly many more regions experiencing industrial decline across the US, but they aren't part of the "Rust Belt". This article could as well be called
Economic decline in the northeastern United States – it's mostly about deindustrialization and depopulation of that area, not about physical geography. The #Geography section sums it well: Since the term "Rust Belt" is used to refer to a set of economic and social conditions rather than to an overall geographical region of the United States, the Rust Belt has no precise boundaries. The extent to which a community may have been described as a "Rust Belt city" depends on how great a role industrial manufacturing played in its local economy
.
I strongly feel that this article falls more under the
WP:WORDISSUBJECT category than under the common format of geographic articles.
No such user (
talk)
09:32, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
Rust Belt is widely used and widely understood– in the US perhaps, but worldwide I'm not so sure. I'm currently browsing through British and Irish news sites, and the belt is frequently written about in the election context, and many of them do introduce the term in a single sentence (but continue to use it throughout) ( Independent); yet others use it from the outset assuming readers' familiarity (BBC). I'm willing to concede this one, I suppose. No such user ( talk) 14:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Could anyone please replace the 2018 estimates with fresh 2020 census numbers? They often tend to be higher than estimates. Thanks in advance! Ain92 ( talk) 11:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
I would like to raise two issues about the map at the beginning of the article:
1) The source for the 1954 data is simply not specified
2) As
this page makes clear, manufacturing decline went into a freefall in the 2000s, and the map stops at 2002
Could somebody please fix that? Esszet ( talk) 15:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
shouldn't new jersey be considered rust belt the article has trenton listed there and then there's newark and jersey city which were also major factory cities so I'm confused? 142.122.125.164 ( talk) 19:11, 16 December 2023 (UTC)