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Personal Note: Content of this page led directly to a psychological breakthrough. Thank you, Wikipedians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.133.154.3 ( talk) 22:31, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
-Goals for this page: Include refs to Nolen-Hoeksema's work, the scales to measure it, connection to depression, the chicken and egg question of whether it predicts depression or is a consequence of it, etc. -Montreal Pscyho July 29-2008
-Am a first time writer. Intend to write up an article on Rumination on Sadness, which is a hot topic in social psych. I will need a couple days--Montreal Pscyho July 29-2008
I hope to add more information about studies conducted to strengthen the description of the relationship between rumination and co-rumination. Jessilucas ( talk) 16:23, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
I hope to expand on the material for rumination. My sources will be: Kuehner, C., Huffziger, S., & Liebsch, K. (2009). Rumination, distraction, and mindful self-focus: Effects on mood, dysfunctional attitudes and cortisol stress response. Psychological Medicine: A Journal of Research in Psychiatry and the Allied Sciences. 39 (2), 219-228. doi: 10.1017/S0033291708003553
Roger, D., Borril, J., Forbes, Angela. (2011). Rumination, inhibition, and stress: The construction of a new scale for assessing emotional style. Current Psychology: A Journal for Diverse Perspectives on Diverse Psychological Issues. 30(3), 234-244. doi:10.1007/s12144-011-9117-y
McLaughlin, K., Nolen-Hoeksema, S. (2011). Rumination as a transdiagnostic factor in depression and anxiety. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 49(3), 186-193. doi: 10.1016/j.brat.2010.12.006
Broeren, Suzanne., Muris, Peter., Bouwmeester, Samantha., van der Heijden, Kristiaan B., Abee, Annemieke. (2011). The role of repetitive negative thoughts in the vulnerability for emotional problems in non-clinical children. Journal of Child and Family Studies, 20(2), 135-148. doi: 10.1007/s10826-010-9380-9
Spasojević, Jelena., Alloy, Lauren B. (2001). Rumination as a common mechanism relating depressive risk factors to depression. Emotion, 1(1), 25-37. doi: 10.1037/1528-3542.1.1.25 Mgillaspie21 ( talk) 05:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
I think this article is still lacking quite a bit of information. For example:
Also, I question the relevance of the "Types" section and Mikulincer (1996). I have never come across these types of rumination in the literature, which suggests that researchers don't necessarily recognize the types of rumination he has proposed. In fact, the Mikulincer article has been cited only 9 times and looking up those terms in Google Scholar yields nothing to suggest that these types of rumination are generally recognized/acknowledged by researchers. Consequently, the Types section perhaps warrants removal (unless someone can show reasonably widespread use of these terms in the literature). Slyons123 ( talk) 01:58, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Read through this page, a lot of good information but I think a "Treatment" section would be a great benefit to the article. I've also noticed most articles on psych conditions/illnesses have a treatment section. I understand that CBT, mindful meditation, and more generally, psychotherapy are used to treat rumination but I have nowhere near the level of expertise needed to write anything about it. Anyone willing to pitch in? Krem1234 ( talk) 02:46, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
As a layman, my operating distinction is that a person ruminates--chews the mental cud--over events of the past, in contrast to worrying, which expresses fear for the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF99:2080:2C27:7B3D:5A25:B8F6 ( talk) 23:34, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
I realize that the talk pages are to discuss the article rather than the underlying subject so I say that something "seems" missing because I am unaware of the academic treatment of this subject (in spite of what I think is an overly academic tone of the article). There seems to be a gap among the repetitive thoughts that are of the type covered in this article and the thoughts covered in articles on PTSD and the article on Negative Automatic Thoughts.
The gap, for example, would include those of a person who repeatedly dwells on a past event (or events) that was perhaps "bad" yet short of "traumatic stress" and in a way that does not involve "negative automatic thoughts" of one's self. We (laymen) think of this pattern as rumination. Yet by the definitions and theories in this article that thought pattern is not considered rumination. The definitions even seem to preclude this scenario.
Specifically, this type of repeated dwelling is not:
I guess I am suggesting that the lead be expanded or one of the sections updated to include this scenario or an explanation as to why this thought pattern is not considered rumination (or what it is actually considered).
I have some other suggestions for the article but I don't want to appear to be attacking the article in general beyond this main point. One example here is the statement that the contents of the S-REF model "are beyond the scope of this article". That may be true but it applies to a great many topics in the WP, and we consider it to be the case without mentioning it. It is more commonly used expressions in journals or books.
Arbalest Mike ( talk) 21:17, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 May 2022 and 6 August 2022. Further details are available
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The "Sex Differences" section seems to be missing information. There needs to be a further explanation for this section. I have found a more recent study to back up the information already in the section and have expounded on the original information.
Little information is currently provided for "Measurement." The article only provides one type of measurement scale; however, there are multiple widespread tools for measurement of rumination. I have added the other scales I have read to be reliable.
BrookeCarr01 (
talk)
19:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
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Psychologylearner1,
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Personal Note: Content of this page led directly to a psychological breakthrough. Thank you, Wikipedians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.133.154.3 ( talk) 22:31, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
-Goals for this page: Include refs to Nolen-Hoeksema's work, the scales to measure it, connection to depression, the chicken and egg question of whether it predicts depression or is a consequence of it, etc. -Montreal Pscyho July 29-2008
-Am a first time writer. Intend to write up an article on Rumination on Sadness, which is a hot topic in social psych. I will need a couple days--Montreal Pscyho July 29-2008
I hope to add more information about studies conducted to strengthen the description of the relationship between rumination and co-rumination. Jessilucas ( talk) 16:23, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
I hope to expand on the material for rumination. My sources will be: Kuehner, C., Huffziger, S., & Liebsch, K. (2009). Rumination, distraction, and mindful self-focus: Effects on mood, dysfunctional attitudes and cortisol stress response. Psychological Medicine: A Journal of Research in Psychiatry and the Allied Sciences. 39 (2), 219-228. doi: 10.1017/S0033291708003553
Roger, D., Borril, J., Forbes, Angela. (2011). Rumination, inhibition, and stress: The construction of a new scale for assessing emotional style. Current Psychology: A Journal for Diverse Perspectives on Diverse Psychological Issues. 30(3), 234-244. doi:10.1007/s12144-011-9117-y
McLaughlin, K., Nolen-Hoeksema, S. (2011). Rumination as a transdiagnostic factor in depression and anxiety. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 49(3), 186-193. doi: 10.1016/j.brat.2010.12.006
Broeren, Suzanne., Muris, Peter., Bouwmeester, Samantha., van der Heijden, Kristiaan B., Abee, Annemieke. (2011). The role of repetitive negative thoughts in the vulnerability for emotional problems in non-clinical children. Journal of Child and Family Studies, 20(2), 135-148. doi: 10.1007/s10826-010-9380-9
Spasojević, Jelena., Alloy, Lauren B. (2001). Rumination as a common mechanism relating depressive risk factors to depression. Emotion, 1(1), 25-37. doi: 10.1037/1528-3542.1.1.25 Mgillaspie21 ( talk) 05:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
I think this article is still lacking quite a bit of information. For example:
Also, I question the relevance of the "Types" section and Mikulincer (1996). I have never come across these types of rumination in the literature, which suggests that researchers don't necessarily recognize the types of rumination he has proposed. In fact, the Mikulincer article has been cited only 9 times and looking up those terms in Google Scholar yields nothing to suggest that these types of rumination are generally recognized/acknowledged by researchers. Consequently, the Types section perhaps warrants removal (unless someone can show reasonably widespread use of these terms in the literature). Slyons123 ( talk) 01:58, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Read through this page, a lot of good information but I think a "Treatment" section would be a great benefit to the article. I've also noticed most articles on psych conditions/illnesses have a treatment section. I understand that CBT, mindful meditation, and more generally, psychotherapy are used to treat rumination but I have nowhere near the level of expertise needed to write anything about it. Anyone willing to pitch in? Krem1234 ( talk) 02:46, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
As a layman, my operating distinction is that a person ruminates--chews the mental cud--over events of the past, in contrast to worrying, which expresses fear for the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF99:2080:2C27:7B3D:5A25:B8F6 ( talk) 23:34, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
I realize that the talk pages are to discuss the article rather than the underlying subject so I say that something "seems" missing because I am unaware of the academic treatment of this subject (in spite of what I think is an overly academic tone of the article). There seems to be a gap among the repetitive thoughts that are of the type covered in this article and the thoughts covered in articles on PTSD and the article on Negative Automatic Thoughts.
The gap, for example, would include those of a person who repeatedly dwells on a past event (or events) that was perhaps "bad" yet short of "traumatic stress" and in a way that does not involve "negative automatic thoughts" of one's self. We (laymen) think of this pattern as rumination. Yet by the definitions and theories in this article that thought pattern is not considered rumination. The definitions even seem to preclude this scenario.
Specifically, this type of repeated dwelling is not:
I guess I am suggesting that the lead be expanded or one of the sections updated to include this scenario or an explanation as to why this thought pattern is not considered rumination (or what it is actually considered).
I have some other suggestions for the article but I don't want to appear to be attacking the article in general beyond this main point. One example here is the statement that the contents of the S-REF model "are beyond the scope of this article". That may be true but it applies to a great many topics in the WP, and we consider it to be the case without mentioning it. It is more commonly used expressions in journals or books.
Arbalest Mike ( talk) 21:17, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 May 2022 and 6 August 2022. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
BrookeCarr01 (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by BrookeCarr01 ( talk) 16:17, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
The "Sex Differences" section seems to be missing information. There needs to be a further explanation for this section. I have found a more recent study to back up the information already in the section and have expounded on the original information.
Little information is currently provided for "Measurement." The article only provides one type of measurement scale; however, there are multiple widespread tools for measurement of rumination. I have added the other scales I have read to be reliable.
BrookeCarr01 (
talk)
19:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 August 2022 and 7 December 2022. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Leanna321 (
article contribs). Peer reviewers:
Sarahamc0714,
Psychologylearner1,
Alaynna2023.
— Assignment last updated by Psychologylearner1 ( talk) 06:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 May 2024 and 12 August 2024. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Raniya 03 (
article contribs). Peer reviewers:
Malex7980,
Mrwil8,
Akeiah,
Care.03.
— Assignment last updated by Rahneli ( talk) 00:17, 10 June 2024 (UTC)