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I included the move list again after it's removal due to the fact I stronly believe a reader who has spent time looking up a random fighting game character would actually be INTERESTED in this information.
I understand the need not to create a gameplay faq out of a characters article page, but a characters moves and play style would most certainly be of great interest to someone wanting to read up on the subject. I think many editors here forget that Wikipedia cannot be compared to an Encyclopedia due to the fact that it covers topics that would never even be considered for an actual article. We have to remember these pages are for the readers and should include information that would interest them and not what would be in a "theoretical" Encyclopedia article for the Encyclopedia Britannia. Besides, almost every Encylopedia Article I've seen on Chess has explained how to play it to a degree. Why shouldn't the same hold true here? - User:Kayin Talk 02:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
And a full, detailed gameplay analysis goes even furthur, dear Kayin. - Zero Talk 19:16, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
-- Kayin 20:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Whoa, whoa, whoa, this has gotten way too mean and isn't really productive, especially given that you're both right. There's nothing wrong with mentioning signature moves in prose; Ryu (Street Fighter) wouldn't be complete with a mention of the Shoryuken and Hadouken.
That said, the movelist isn't appropriate in its current form (which is currently the subject of a revert war, AFAICT; stop reverting already), but a description of his fighting style along with some descriptions of his signature moves.
Now, stop arguing, and go write that. You both are clearly knowledgable and interested. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 05:45, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I deleted the image about God Rugal because he isn't a canon character in the main KOF series. I placed the official picture of Rugal from the KOF10th anniversary site at first, then moved the previously main topic to the secondary place below it, that shows Omega Rugal. Does anybody have something to say about the change? Somebody that doesn't agree? PabloG 16:31, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Zero, discuss with me what concerns to this change. I believe God Rugal shouldn't be a part of this article because he isn't canon, he's a character created by Capcom in Capcom vs SNK 2. Plus, he doesn't exist in any official KOF related story. PabloG 16:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, if the articles were to be constructed at the liking of it's members, and not taking into account logic and reason, they would be of much less quality. That picture that I'm putting, is the OFFICIAL MAIN picture of Rugal in the OFFICIAL SNK page for KOF that celebrates the 10 years of anniversary of the game. It's what they want to show him like, because it's the classical Rugal. There is no trace of the looks of the REAL Rugal (the one that is not Omega or the utterly non canon God Rugal from CVS). What's more important, to show the readers a picture of Rugal himself, the original design of SNK, or to show a picture of God Rugal, a non canon character that isn't neither created by the drawing artists of SNK nor credited or found anywhere in the official story of King Of Fighters? I leave that to the discretion of the readers, and to you, which I believe has common sense like anybody. Believe me, KOF fans that enter here would be more confused to not find a picture of Rugal Bernstein, but instead find a picture of "God Rugal", a character that isn't found in KOF and is poorly known among the KOF community. PabloG 17:04, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Now I argue that God Rugal doesn't belong in the article because he's nowhere to be found in the main KOF storyline so it confuses the fans and anyone that might read to know about Rugal, that goes to play the game and doesn't find any trace of a "God Rugal" anywhere PabloG 17:10, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Ironically, this doesn't have to do with the quality of any pic either. The pics are well selected, they're stylized and proper for what they show (well, the 2002 Rugal one is an art made by Nona, a widely rejected artist that worked in 2001 and later in 2002, 2001 being one of the years that people liked the in game art of the characters the least...). It just isn't canon. Why not create a separate article about "God Rugal" (which apparently has a story connected to "Shin Akuma" too in CVS) or make a link to the pic in the part that God Rugal is mentioned in the article? PabloG 17:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
No, no and NO. Rugal isn't canon, AND, let it be noted, AND it is an official character (and I never said he wasn't an official character, just non-canon), considering that he actually exists in a game that SNK took part of. But, read this well, he WASN'T CREATED BY SNK. GOD RUGAL IS A CAPCOM INVENTION TO PROVIDE A BOSS FOR THE SNK SIDE in Capcom vs SNK. There's a reason why he is only mentioned in the trivia section. I argue that God Rugal shouldn't have a picture of his own.
Also, I feel curious, where are his secretaries with him in his pics? they're a very integral of his story. Things happen to him with them and because of them, and I see no pictures of the characters that are like parts of his body in the game. Wouldn't they enrich the article more than a pic of a non canon character? All I see in most articles about characters from this game are different incarnations and changes that have occured to them. There's no depiction of the connections of one character with the other, or why they're important to their story. The articles are enriched in only one direction. PabloG 18:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I think that God Rugal should actually be based on a Capcom amalgamation of "Omega Rugal" (since a stronger Rugal should be actually called "Omega Rugal" anyway) since God Rugal is noticeably more devastating and more nimble than Rugal noticeably. Therefore, God Rugal is somewhat based on Omega Rugal (IMO Capcom should've used "Omega Rugal" instead of God Rugal, since Omega Rugal sounded better) but with some Satsui No Hadou-infused properties (i.e. Shun Goku Satsu). — Mark Kim ( Reply/Start Talk) 01:17, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I quote the article:
However, I remember having a magazine with a movelist for King of Fighters '95, the Gameboy variant; and I distinctly remember them calling him Rugal Bernstein. I guess one can assume the redactors of that movelist got that name from somewhere, possibly the manual or from SNK/Takara themselves? Mamour 08:37, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Fixed the article to a less dramatic version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZodiacZ ( talk • contribs) 06:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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Can someone please tell me how to beat Omega Rugal in the Survival Mode of KOF NeoWave? It's so difficult to knock him off! 86.32.44.52 ( talk) 21:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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I included the move list again after it's removal due to the fact I stronly believe a reader who has spent time looking up a random fighting game character would actually be INTERESTED in this information.
I understand the need not to create a gameplay faq out of a characters article page, but a characters moves and play style would most certainly be of great interest to someone wanting to read up on the subject. I think many editors here forget that Wikipedia cannot be compared to an Encyclopedia due to the fact that it covers topics that would never even be considered for an actual article. We have to remember these pages are for the readers and should include information that would interest them and not what would be in a "theoretical" Encyclopedia article for the Encyclopedia Britannia. Besides, almost every Encylopedia Article I've seen on Chess has explained how to play it to a degree. Why shouldn't the same hold true here? - User:Kayin Talk 02:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
And a full, detailed gameplay analysis goes even furthur, dear Kayin. - Zero Talk 19:16, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
-- Kayin 20:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Whoa, whoa, whoa, this has gotten way too mean and isn't really productive, especially given that you're both right. There's nothing wrong with mentioning signature moves in prose; Ryu (Street Fighter) wouldn't be complete with a mention of the Shoryuken and Hadouken.
That said, the movelist isn't appropriate in its current form (which is currently the subject of a revert war, AFAICT; stop reverting already), but a description of his fighting style along with some descriptions of his signature moves.
Now, stop arguing, and go write that. You both are clearly knowledgable and interested. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 05:45, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I deleted the image about God Rugal because he isn't a canon character in the main KOF series. I placed the official picture of Rugal from the KOF10th anniversary site at first, then moved the previously main topic to the secondary place below it, that shows Omega Rugal. Does anybody have something to say about the change? Somebody that doesn't agree? PabloG 16:31, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Zero, discuss with me what concerns to this change. I believe God Rugal shouldn't be a part of this article because he isn't canon, he's a character created by Capcom in Capcom vs SNK 2. Plus, he doesn't exist in any official KOF related story. PabloG 16:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, if the articles were to be constructed at the liking of it's members, and not taking into account logic and reason, they would be of much less quality. That picture that I'm putting, is the OFFICIAL MAIN picture of Rugal in the OFFICIAL SNK page for KOF that celebrates the 10 years of anniversary of the game. It's what they want to show him like, because it's the classical Rugal. There is no trace of the looks of the REAL Rugal (the one that is not Omega or the utterly non canon God Rugal from CVS). What's more important, to show the readers a picture of Rugal himself, the original design of SNK, or to show a picture of God Rugal, a non canon character that isn't neither created by the drawing artists of SNK nor credited or found anywhere in the official story of King Of Fighters? I leave that to the discretion of the readers, and to you, which I believe has common sense like anybody. Believe me, KOF fans that enter here would be more confused to not find a picture of Rugal Bernstein, but instead find a picture of "God Rugal", a character that isn't found in KOF and is poorly known among the KOF community. PabloG 17:04, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Now I argue that God Rugal doesn't belong in the article because he's nowhere to be found in the main KOF storyline so it confuses the fans and anyone that might read to know about Rugal, that goes to play the game and doesn't find any trace of a "God Rugal" anywhere PabloG 17:10, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Ironically, this doesn't have to do with the quality of any pic either. The pics are well selected, they're stylized and proper for what they show (well, the 2002 Rugal one is an art made by Nona, a widely rejected artist that worked in 2001 and later in 2002, 2001 being one of the years that people liked the in game art of the characters the least...). It just isn't canon. Why not create a separate article about "God Rugal" (which apparently has a story connected to "Shin Akuma" too in CVS) or make a link to the pic in the part that God Rugal is mentioned in the article? PabloG 17:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
No, no and NO. Rugal isn't canon, AND, let it be noted, AND it is an official character (and I never said he wasn't an official character, just non-canon), considering that he actually exists in a game that SNK took part of. But, read this well, he WASN'T CREATED BY SNK. GOD RUGAL IS A CAPCOM INVENTION TO PROVIDE A BOSS FOR THE SNK SIDE in Capcom vs SNK. There's a reason why he is only mentioned in the trivia section. I argue that God Rugal shouldn't have a picture of his own.
Also, I feel curious, where are his secretaries with him in his pics? they're a very integral of his story. Things happen to him with them and because of them, and I see no pictures of the characters that are like parts of his body in the game. Wouldn't they enrich the article more than a pic of a non canon character? All I see in most articles about characters from this game are different incarnations and changes that have occured to them. There's no depiction of the connections of one character with the other, or why they're important to their story. The articles are enriched in only one direction. PabloG 18:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I think that God Rugal should actually be based on a Capcom amalgamation of "Omega Rugal" (since a stronger Rugal should be actually called "Omega Rugal" anyway) since God Rugal is noticeably more devastating and more nimble than Rugal noticeably. Therefore, God Rugal is somewhat based on Omega Rugal (IMO Capcom should've used "Omega Rugal" instead of God Rugal, since Omega Rugal sounded better) but with some Satsui No Hadou-infused properties (i.e. Shun Goku Satsu). — Mark Kim ( Reply/Start Talk) 01:17, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I quote the article:
However, I remember having a magazine with a movelist for King of Fighters '95, the Gameboy variant; and I distinctly remember them calling him Rugal Bernstein. I guess one can assume the redactors of that movelist got that name from somewhere, possibly the manual or from SNK/Takara themselves? Mamour 08:37, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Fixed the article to a less dramatic version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZodiacZ ( talk • contribs) 06:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Image:Rugal2002.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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Can someone please tell me how to beat Omega Rugal in the Survival Mode of KOF NeoWave? It's so difficult to knock him off! 86.32.44.52 ( talk) 21:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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