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Nothing about the WAAF (note this should not be confused with the UK WAAF article) or women in the RNZAF? I will put a re-direct page in until either it is included in this article or gets it own.-- Pandaplodder ( talk) 12:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
For instance the 21st century section notes that the A-4 Skyhawk and Aermacchi MB-339 squadrons were disbanded; however, the previous section on the post-world war airforce never notes that they were acquired. Rmhermen 14:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Have added a one para summary of post war developments divided the other two paras into one tracing the combat fleet history and one the support fleet, and and a couple of scentences about the combat fleet aquisitions and losses from the late 60s. However appreciate the whole article tends to be a list of aircraft rather than analysis. What would you like to see? Incidentally, I note someone added a late WWII RNZAF pacific theatre roundel, which promptly got deleted - not sure what the politics of that are, but there was nothing inaccurate about the roundel. Winstonwolfe 21:54, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
- hence the earlier version which reduced the red circle to a miniscule dot, though later research showed pilots were unable to recognise red colour at any distance. I thought some variants of the roundel did not carry the outer yellow round the full circumference, but not a biggie. Full collection - including e.g. post war fernleafs would be a good idea. What did you think about the request for more material?
Squadron would have been No. 25 Squadron RNZAF . :-) Winstonwolfe 01:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Having never seen an actual photograph of the RNZAF Ensign, my question is if whether the one pictured containing the RAF-type roundel with "NZ" in the centre is still used or if one with the "Kiwi" roundel is used?-- MarshallStack 15:18, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys when i was reading the discussions for RNZAF i noticed the issue of roundels, now i plyed around Google image search and found this
http://www.warbirdsite.com/P-40roundel.jpg
Would this be an accurate roundel used on RNZAF P-40's (if they did use them) and can anyone tell me what year were P-40's used. Thanks
Rgp2130 10:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm planning to expand the history section a bit. Given many other air force sites list history separately, I was wondering whether I should create a separate history article (or possibly even a series of articles) about RNZAF history, and concentrate on the present RNZAF on this page,(with a bit of background history, similar to what is there now)? What do you think? Winstonwolfe 06:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
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Aircraft Six P-3K Orions are operated in the maritime patrol mission. Five were originally delivered in 1966 as P-3Bs. Another was purchased from the RAAF in 1985, following which all were upgraded to their current standard. (6 so far) Five SH-2G(NZ) Seasprites were purchased in 1997 for operation from the RNZN's new Anzac class frigates. Although these are navy aircraft, they are operated and maintained by the RNZAF. (11 so far) Three Beechcraft B200 King Airs were leased by the RNZAF in 1998, with a further two leased in 2000. These are used in the multi-engined training role. (5 in total, so 16 so far) Two Boeing 757-200s are operated in the fast air transport role. (18 so far) Five C-130H Hercules are operated in the air transport role. Three were delivered in 1966, with a further two in 1969. (23 so far) The UH-1H Iroquois is the most numerous operational aircraft in the RNZAF inventory, with 14 units in service. (37 so far) 13 Pacific Aerospace CT-4E Airtrainers were leased by the RNZAF in 1998 to serve as the air force's basic flying trainer. (50 so far) Five Bell 47 Sioux are in service as basic helicopter trainers. Five Agusta A109 helicopters will be acquired to replace the Sioux.[3] (55 so far). Eight NH90 helicopters have been purchased by the Ministry of Defence for $771 million, including costs for parts and services. Expected to be operational in New Zealand from 2010, they will replace the Iroquois.
As per the info from the article, the number of aircraft in operation is 55, not 53, (not counting the NH90s). Can anyone explain the discrepancy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.188.253.170 ( talk) 10:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I didn't write that part, so I'm not sure how th eauthor got their figure, but the only explanation to get just 2 extra I can think of is counting the RNZAF historic flight's Tiger Moth and Harvard? Winstonwolfe ( talk) 05:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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Hi all, on Michael Woodhouse MP's Facebook page, there's a pic of a light blue flag with the "Kiwi" roundel in the centre being flown by a parachutist (part of the Kiwi Blue stunt team), here. It looks as though (from the Airforce's own website) this flag has been in use for a few years. This picture dates from February 2009. Can anyone confirm this? If its true then the article has got it badly wrong, for some time. -- LJ Holden 00:34, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Nos 1, 2, 4, 41, and 75 Squadrons were listed as "former squadrons" in the structure section of the article. It is not clear why these particular squadrons have been singled out. Nos 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 29, 30, etc are all in the same rough category - not currently active - and were not listed. Many of these squadrons are mentioned in the text, and guidance for WP:FAs encourages us to move towards more text. Thus I have taken the former squadrons listing out, again. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:46, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
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Misleading edit summary? It’s pretty explicit on the Wikipedia:Image dos and don'ts: Don't overload articles with images & Don't use images for tables or charts. Further the source provided is current to 2017 as opposed to 2015, and there are un-sourced notes in the table defying WP:CBALL – cheers FOX 52 ( talk) 21:35, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
No looks like it was restored from 2 years ago 13 July 2015 47.152.57.146 ( talk) 04:16, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
BillCJ has reverted with the claim that "per WP:AIR consensus, tables with photos are deprecated on air force articles". If that's true BillCJ, then there is no problem with your revert. But there are over 40 archives on the WP:AIR talk page, and I can't find this consensus you mention. Can you please point me to the consensus? -- Epipelagic ( talk) 06:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Will she back an upgrade in fighter aircraft? If there is a RS news report on this, it would add to the article's value. HammerFilmFan ( talk) 12:38, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
I just noticed that "Current inventory" table of aircraft section on this page is duplication of List of active New Zealand military aircraft. The issue of duplication is if you want to update the content then you will need to update both pages (there is possibility that we update them differently and create may end up create different table of the exactly same subject) as per WP:REDUNDANTFORK.
My proposal are :
Note: Personally, I'd prefer the option 1, to remove current inventory table on this article and add link to List of active New Zealand military aircraft. Since similar consensus has been reached for Talk:List of equipment of the Royal Malaysian Air Force#Duplication of "current inventory" table with List of aircraft of the Malaysian Armed Forces and Talk:List of equipment of the Philippine Air Force#Duplication of "current inventory" table with List of active military aircraft of the Philippines. Thank you. Ckfasdf ( talk) 06:56, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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Nothing about the WAAF (note this should not be confused with the UK WAAF article) or women in the RNZAF? I will put a re-direct page in until either it is included in this article or gets it own.-- Pandaplodder ( talk) 12:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
For instance the 21st century section notes that the A-4 Skyhawk and Aermacchi MB-339 squadrons were disbanded; however, the previous section on the post-world war airforce never notes that they were acquired. Rmhermen 14:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Have added a one para summary of post war developments divided the other two paras into one tracing the combat fleet history and one the support fleet, and and a couple of scentences about the combat fleet aquisitions and losses from the late 60s. However appreciate the whole article tends to be a list of aircraft rather than analysis. What would you like to see? Incidentally, I note someone added a late WWII RNZAF pacific theatre roundel, which promptly got deleted - not sure what the politics of that are, but there was nothing inaccurate about the roundel. Winstonwolfe 21:54, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
- hence the earlier version which reduced the red circle to a miniscule dot, though later research showed pilots were unable to recognise red colour at any distance. I thought some variants of the roundel did not carry the outer yellow round the full circumference, but not a biggie. Full collection - including e.g. post war fernleafs would be a good idea. What did you think about the request for more material?
Squadron would have been No. 25 Squadron RNZAF . :-) Winstonwolfe 01:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Having never seen an actual photograph of the RNZAF Ensign, my question is if whether the one pictured containing the RAF-type roundel with "NZ" in the centre is still used or if one with the "Kiwi" roundel is used?-- MarshallStack 15:18, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys when i was reading the discussions for RNZAF i noticed the issue of roundels, now i plyed around Google image search and found this
http://www.warbirdsite.com/P-40roundel.jpg
Would this be an accurate roundel used on RNZAF P-40's (if they did use them) and can anyone tell me what year were P-40's used. Thanks
Rgp2130 10:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm planning to expand the history section a bit. Given many other air force sites list history separately, I was wondering whether I should create a separate history article (or possibly even a series of articles) about RNZAF history, and concentrate on the present RNZAF on this page,(with a bit of background history, similar to what is there now)? What do you think? Winstonwolfe 06:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Image:Nzairforce.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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Aircraft Six P-3K Orions are operated in the maritime patrol mission. Five were originally delivered in 1966 as P-3Bs. Another was purchased from the RAAF in 1985, following which all were upgraded to their current standard. (6 so far) Five SH-2G(NZ) Seasprites were purchased in 1997 for operation from the RNZN's new Anzac class frigates. Although these are navy aircraft, they are operated and maintained by the RNZAF. (11 so far) Three Beechcraft B200 King Airs were leased by the RNZAF in 1998, with a further two leased in 2000. These are used in the multi-engined training role. (5 in total, so 16 so far) Two Boeing 757-200s are operated in the fast air transport role. (18 so far) Five C-130H Hercules are operated in the air transport role. Three were delivered in 1966, with a further two in 1969. (23 so far) The UH-1H Iroquois is the most numerous operational aircraft in the RNZAF inventory, with 14 units in service. (37 so far) 13 Pacific Aerospace CT-4E Airtrainers were leased by the RNZAF in 1998 to serve as the air force's basic flying trainer. (50 so far) Five Bell 47 Sioux are in service as basic helicopter trainers. Five Agusta A109 helicopters will be acquired to replace the Sioux.[3] (55 so far). Eight NH90 helicopters have been purchased by the Ministry of Defence for $771 million, including costs for parts and services. Expected to be operational in New Zealand from 2010, they will replace the Iroquois.
As per the info from the article, the number of aircraft in operation is 55, not 53, (not counting the NH90s). Can anyone explain the discrepancy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.188.253.170 ( talk) 10:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I didn't write that part, so I'm not sure how th eauthor got their figure, but the only explanation to get just 2 extra I can think of is counting the RNZAF historic flight's Tiger Moth and Harvard? Winstonwolfe ( talk) 05:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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Hi all, on Michael Woodhouse MP's Facebook page, there's a pic of a light blue flag with the "Kiwi" roundel in the centre being flown by a parachutist (part of the Kiwi Blue stunt team), here. It looks as though (from the Airforce's own website) this flag has been in use for a few years. This picture dates from February 2009. Can anyone confirm this? If its true then the article has got it badly wrong, for some time. -- LJ Holden 00:34, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Nos 1, 2, 4, 41, and 75 Squadrons were listed as "former squadrons" in the structure section of the article. It is not clear why these particular squadrons have been singled out. Nos 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 29, 30, etc are all in the same rough category - not currently active - and were not listed. Many of these squadrons are mentioned in the text, and guidance for WP:FAs encourages us to move towards more text. Thus I have taken the former squadrons listing out, again. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:46, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
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Misleading edit summary? It’s pretty explicit on the Wikipedia:Image dos and don'ts: Don't overload articles with images & Don't use images for tables or charts. Further the source provided is current to 2017 as opposed to 2015, and there are un-sourced notes in the table defying WP:CBALL – cheers FOX 52 ( talk) 21:35, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
No looks like it was restored from 2 years ago 13 July 2015 47.152.57.146 ( talk) 04:16, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
BillCJ has reverted with the claim that "per WP:AIR consensus, tables with photos are deprecated on air force articles". If that's true BillCJ, then there is no problem with your revert. But there are over 40 archives on the WP:AIR talk page, and I can't find this consensus you mention. Can you please point me to the consensus? -- Epipelagic ( talk) 06:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Will she back an upgrade in fighter aircraft? If there is a RS news report on this, it would add to the article's value. HammerFilmFan ( talk) 12:38, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
I just noticed that "Current inventory" table of aircraft section on this page is duplication of List of active New Zealand military aircraft. The issue of duplication is if you want to update the content then you will need to update both pages (there is possibility that we update them differently and create may end up create different table of the exactly same subject) as per WP:REDUNDANTFORK.
My proposal are :
Note: Personally, I'd prefer the option 1, to remove current inventory table on this article and add link to List of active New Zealand military aircraft. Since similar consensus has been reached for Talk:List of equipment of the Royal Malaysian Air Force#Duplication of "current inventory" table with List of aircraft of the Malaysian Armed Forces and Talk:List of equipment of the Philippine Air Force#Duplication of "current inventory" table with List of active military aircraft of the Philippines. Thank you. Ckfasdf ( talk) 06:56, 27 April 2022 (UTC)