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This is an article about the regular Danish army, not Denmark as a nation. A user inserted Napoleonic Wars (1807-14) in the infobox. Which battles did the regular Danish army fought in 1807-14? --Regards, Necessary Evil ( talk) 15:29, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't matter which battles they fought in. Denmark was part of the war on the french side after the British forced our hands, this is pretty common knowledge that every person with common historical knowledge of the period knows. The Danish army and navy were active in the gunboat wars, as well the defense of Norway when the swedes invaded in 1809 and in the War of the Sixth Coalition during the Napoleonic wars. The whole point of listing wars is about what wars they participated in. wis 22:21, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
In January this article was moved from "Royal Danish Army" to "Danish Army" without any explanation or discussion. I hereby reinstall the old name, which concur with the official naming. Royal Danish Army (RDA). --Regards, Necessary Evil ( talk) 15:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I did the moving. The Danish army does not have the royal prefix. It is only the Danish Airforce and Navy who has the prefix. It is the same as in other European countries with Monarchies. This goes back to the history of the fleet and ships being owned by the King and not the country. The danish army is not a royal army and it is not branded as such in the Denmark either. Individual units in the Danish army was given the prefix Royal, such as the royal foot life guards and the royal horse life guards. No other units were given this prefix and the army as a whole was never given this. wis 22:21, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Necessary evil can you link to any danish or english research or historical source that says the danish army is royal? The Royal prefix is something given to institutions by the royal family. Also the royal prussian army was the personal army of the Kings in and of Prussia, that is why it was royal. The prefix royal isn't something you can just flaunt about without having it been given you to by the royal family. http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hæren_(Norge) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Army http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_army http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveriges_armé http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_army None of these are Royal armies. Also the British army isn't royal. But you have units in the army that have been given the prefix Queen's or King's or Royal. It is something that is earned. Just like with the "Den Kongelige Livgarde til hest og fods", "Dronningens Artilleriregiment". The danish navy is royal because it was the private ownership of the King. wis 16:56, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Sofar the sources saying Danish army outweighs the use of Royal danish army. wis 17:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
I am currently serving in the danish army, in all my years i have never seen any danish sources calling the danish army the royal danish army. You say "Why should I bother digging up additional sources indicating that the Danish army is called Royal Danish Army, but you demand we dig up sources? Why is there no mention of "Den kongelige danske hær" under the danish page of the danish army?. That is because you can not find any. http://www.google.dk/search?hl=en&client=opera&hs=qpX&rls=en&channel=suggest&q=den+kongelige+danske+h%C3%A6r&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= . There are no danish sources calling the danish army for the royal danish army. Because the danish army as a whole has never been given the honour of adding royal to it. Adding Royal to it is a honour. wis 19:18, 14 March 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.235.22.79 ( talk)
FYI: I just got the answer from the Defence Staff Norway:
Good day. The correct names are:
no answer from Denmark yet. I will put this info into the Norwegian Military articles and wait for an answer from Denmark. noclador ( talk) 13:29, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
I just got the answer from the Presseofficer, Public Affairs Office, Defence Command Denmark... and it is not very helpful:
Dear Sir,
Thank you very much for your interest in the Danish Armed Forces. The link beneath will give access to facts and figures about the Danish Armed Forces.
http://forsvaret.dk/FKO/eng/Documents/Fakta%20om%20Forsvaret_UK.pdf
Best regards
... what now? the linked pdf. only speaks about the Royal Danish Air Force, but never of the Royal Danish Army or the Royal Danish Navy. Does anyone of you wish to write the Pressofficer and ask him a second time? noclador ( talk) 14:06, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Gents, I've just talked to an colleague, who knows a whole lot more about Danish military formations and their names than me. The official Danish names are available on the internet as Cirkulære om forsvarets inddeling mv. - however it's not quite updated and their English names are not! The Royal prefix was removed from the Army somewhere between 2001 and 2004 (-ish), though certain subordinate units (like the Royal Life Guards and the Royal Danish Army Army Academy - yes there shall be to times 'Army' apparently) have retained the prefix. The English names should be:
-- Heb ( talk) 10:46, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinmetall_MG_3
I don't understand why the MG3 7.62 mm - in Denmark named LMG M/62 - isn't mentioned under "General issued weapons and related equipment". Wouldn't want to mess with the page myself, it just seems odd! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hr.thein ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
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This is an article about the regular Danish army, not Denmark as a nation. A user inserted Napoleonic Wars (1807-14) in the infobox. Which battles did the regular Danish army fought in 1807-14? --Regards, Necessary Evil ( talk) 15:29, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't matter which battles they fought in. Denmark was part of the war on the french side after the British forced our hands, this is pretty common knowledge that every person with common historical knowledge of the period knows. The Danish army and navy were active in the gunboat wars, as well the defense of Norway when the swedes invaded in 1809 and in the War of the Sixth Coalition during the Napoleonic wars. The whole point of listing wars is about what wars they participated in. wis 22:21, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
In January this article was moved from "Royal Danish Army" to "Danish Army" without any explanation or discussion. I hereby reinstall the old name, which concur with the official naming. Royal Danish Army (RDA). --Regards, Necessary Evil ( talk) 15:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I did the moving. The Danish army does not have the royal prefix. It is only the Danish Airforce and Navy who has the prefix. It is the same as in other European countries with Monarchies. This goes back to the history of the fleet and ships being owned by the King and not the country. The danish army is not a royal army and it is not branded as such in the Denmark either. Individual units in the Danish army was given the prefix Royal, such as the royal foot life guards and the royal horse life guards. No other units were given this prefix and the army as a whole was never given this. wis 22:21, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Necessary evil can you link to any danish or english research or historical source that says the danish army is royal? The Royal prefix is something given to institutions by the royal family. Also the royal prussian army was the personal army of the Kings in and of Prussia, that is why it was royal. The prefix royal isn't something you can just flaunt about without having it been given you to by the royal family. http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hæren_(Norge) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Army http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_army http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveriges_armé http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_army None of these are Royal armies. Also the British army isn't royal. But you have units in the army that have been given the prefix Queen's or King's or Royal. It is something that is earned. Just like with the "Den Kongelige Livgarde til hest og fods", "Dronningens Artilleriregiment". The danish navy is royal because it was the private ownership of the King. wis 16:56, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Sofar the sources saying Danish army outweighs the use of Royal danish army. wis 17:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
I am currently serving in the danish army, in all my years i have never seen any danish sources calling the danish army the royal danish army. You say "Why should I bother digging up additional sources indicating that the Danish army is called Royal Danish Army, but you demand we dig up sources? Why is there no mention of "Den kongelige danske hær" under the danish page of the danish army?. That is because you can not find any. http://www.google.dk/search?hl=en&client=opera&hs=qpX&rls=en&channel=suggest&q=den+kongelige+danske+h%C3%A6r&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= . There are no danish sources calling the danish army for the royal danish army. Because the danish army as a whole has never been given the honour of adding royal to it. Adding Royal to it is a honour. wis 19:18, 14 March 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.235.22.79 ( talk)
FYI: I just got the answer from the Defence Staff Norway:
Good day. The correct names are:
no answer from Denmark yet. I will put this info into the Norwegian Military articles and wait for an answer from Denmark. noclador ( talk) 13:29, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
I just got the answer from the Presseofficer, Public Affairs Office, Defence Command Denmark... and it is not very helpful:
Dear Sir,
Thank you very much for your interest in the Danish Armed Forces. The link beneath will give access to facts and figures about the Danish Armed Forces.
http://forsvaret.dk/FKO/eng/Documents/Fakta%20om%20Forsvaret_UK.pdf
Best regards
... what now? the linked pdf. only speaks about the Royal Danish Air Force, but never of the Royal Danish Army or the Royal Danish Navy. Does anyone of you wish to write the Pressofficer and ask him a second time? noclador ( talk) 14:06, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Gents, I've just talked to an colleague, who knows a whole lot more about Danish military formations and their names than me. The official Danish names are available on the internet as Cirkulære om forsvarets inddeling mv. - however it's not quite updated and their English names are not! The Royal prefix was removed from the Army somewhere between 2001 and 2004 (-ish), though certain subordinate units (like the Royal Life Guards and the Royal Danish Army Army Academy - yes there shall be to times 'Army' apparently) have retained the prefix. The English names should be:
-- Heb ( talk) 10:46, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinmetall_MG_3
I don't understand why the MG3 7.62 mm - in Denmark named LMG M/62 - isn't mentioned under "General issued weapons and related equipment". Wouldn't want to mess with the page myself, it just seems odd! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hr.thein ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 5 June 2011 (UTC)