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Why wasn't Kenneth Horne liked by TV audiences? (Adrian Hobbs)
I love the close harmony sound of this group - does anyone know if they made their own separate recordings? Adambisset 13:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
No one's mentioned the limerick contests. I can't decide whether the winning entries come from real people or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.5.88.166 ( talk) 18:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
(or: All you ever wanted to know about double-entendré but were afraid to ask)
The article states that Horne-a-Plenty was released on BBC CD under this title. This isn't correct. TC&UH was originally released (on cassette only I think) in 1998 and was a reading by Barry Took of his own book (although I don't know if the book was actually published or not) along with lots of clips from the show. It was then rereleased in 2005 as part of the 40th anniversary stuff. I don't think Horne-a-Plenty has been released. 82.35.114.40 19:42, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
It is stated that Judy Coolibar may have been based on Germaine Greer, and whilst I can see the similarities, I got the impression that the character was introduced before Greer was really in the public eye. Does anyone have anything that would back to claim up? Queerpuppyboy 01:49, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Surely, "Green grow your nadgers-O!" should be "Green grow my nadgers-O!"?
There were, if my memory has not failed my tsohg completely, two different versions of this. One used the line "Green grows my bogling fork" ...
Keep grundling your parts - happily! And keep your cordwangles straight ...
PS I suspect a connexion between the "Rumpo" name and that of John Mortimer's immortal "Horace Rumpole" - but I have no proof.
Attempts to insert a name drop to the cover band "The Hamsters" is unwarrated and an example of gratuitous over linking. It is not related to the article at all, No one has ever anywhere commented on it or even mentioned it. It is constantly inserted by User:WebHamster an editor who has greated a vast amount of "The Hamsters" related material and strives to insert this band into any article he can. The official reference provided as a citation also makes no mention of the "Hamsters" whatsoever and does not lend any weight to this band being included here. Bluescreenofdef ( talk) 03:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
The fact that this band is influenced by this episode is not relevant to this article at all. The reference provided does not even mention the Hamsters. Search for it. No one anywhere ever has commented on the relationship between the Hamster and this episode. It is nothing more than wiki abuse and an attempt to push a band name through as many links as possible. Bluescreenofdef ( talk) 03:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not saying "The Hamsters" were not influenced by this episode. I am saying that fact is not notable for this article per WP:WEIGHT. No one cares about this fact. It has not been mentioned by anyone EVER around the world. It is just not comment worthy and just a blatant attempt to insert a band name where it doesn't belong for gratuitous self promotion reasons. Bluescreenofdef ( talk) 04:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
This naming episode may be relevant in the Hamsters article, however it is not notable for this article. I ask again when has anyone Ever anywhere commented on this tenuous link? Bluescreenofdef ( talk) 04:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Lyn Took was divorced from Barry Took a couple of years before his death - she divorced him. That makes her an ex-wife in the same way as Dorothy Took was an ex-wife. I hope that clarifies the situation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemesisthrup ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
In episode 13 of the first series, he is said to be Japanese.( 84.236.152.71 ( talk) 14:55, 2 June 2015 (UTC))
The word 'massive' was removed from 'massive heart attack'. As I understand it,Ken Horne died suddenly from heart disease. I can't find a cite just now -- can anyone else?
That would be very unlikely to be true, sjc. Are you making the point that the people around him lead unhealthy lives, or they just happened to die this way? -Adrian.
The description of 'futtock' as an item of ship's rigging is not technically correct. From the live link he/she has made, it is clear that the author has mistaken 'futtock-shroud' (which is an item of rigging) for the root word, which may sound reasonable, but is a bit like assuming that a tree-house is the same as a tree, or a horse-fly is the same as a horse. A terribly minor point, I accept, but why be incorrect when it's avoidable? I'll change it. Grubstreet ( talk) 06:04, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Palomi uses it as an adjective, and I don't think RTH ever used it any other way. Princess Anne was almost certainly quoting Ronnie Barker's character Fletch in Porridge, who used it far more frequently as in "Naff off..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.27.228.169 ( talk) 21:58, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
SchroCat, a bot has made some weird changes to the references, including adding confusing numbers in brackets for BBC Genome refs. I'm minded to revert to the FA version. What think you? (and what think anyone else, of course?) Tim riley talk 11:23, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Hmmm, I just tried to make a small series of edits but some of them appear not to have saved, despite appearing in the history thing. I'll leave it for a bit in case Wikipedia is having one of its regular hiccups and see if I can sort them out later. At the moment the article now shows a reference entry without the material referred to. -- bodnotbod 23:02, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
I came here to get an idea how many episodes there were. I don't know, however, whether it's worth putting it into the article. From britishcomedy.org.uk I then learned. There were four seasons with
16 episodes in season 1
13 episodes in season 2
20 episodes in season 3
16 episodes in season 4
+ 3 special episodes.
--- Jan, March 29, 2006
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Is it appropriate for one party to a two-party disagreement to give themselves the last word and unilaterally close the discussion (re. "James Bond spoofs")? I would have thought that determining that a discussion needed to be closed would fall to an editor watching from the sidelines, someone without a stake in the disagreement. Whereas, if you're one of two people in a dispute and you don't want to continue it, all you have to do is stop commenting. Jcejhay ( talk) 17:29, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I'm confused here, @ SchroCat:. I didn't think I was engaging in an edit war by un-reverting in tandem with supporting my revision with a source. But then I'm also not sure why the archive.org page that gives a complete episode-by-episode roster of the program, with all the "Kenneth Horne, Master Spy" sketches evident, is considered less reliable than the BBC page which (unless I missed something) gives few details at all. I mean, I get that a BBC web page is inherently more reliable than a user-driven site like archive.org; but the other thing is that my revision and the version it superseded don't exactly contradict each other—it's really more of a clarification. Sure, you can describe any one of the Bond spoof sketches as a film parody, but it is more accurate to note that they were a running routine, unlike the one-off film parodies. Jcejhay ( talk) 21:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Even the title of the show was an outrageous innuendo and I am surprised the author is not aware of this:- Naval expression "rounding the Horn" ie Cape Horn; Sexual innuendo "round the Horn(e)" ie Oral Sex 'erection = horn'
It is as naive to think otherwise than to assume that the Ken Dodd 'tickling stick' was anything other than a dildo "Have you got your tickling stick Missus?" 79.71.181.161 ( talk) 17:19, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
NO IT IS NOT - it is complete IGNORANCE on your part. How on Earth you can claim to any expertise in the point of this article ? Are you actually claiming different interpretations of these expressions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.71.181.161 ( talk) 17:34, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Why wasn't Kenneth Horne liked by TV audiences? (Adrian Hobbs)
I love the close harmony sound of this group - does anyone know if they made their own separate recordings? Adambisset 13:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
No one's mentioned the limerick contests. I can't decide whether the winning entries come from real people or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.5.88.166 ( talk) 18:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
(or: All you ever wanted to know about double-entendré but were afraid to ask)
The article states that Horne-a-Plenty was released on BBC CD under this title. This isn't correct. TC&UH was originally released (on cassette only I think) in 1998 and was a reading by Barry Took of his own book (although I don't know if the book was actually published or not) along with lots of clips from the show. It was then rereleased in 2005 as part of the 40th anniversary stuff. I don't think Horne-a-Plenty has been released. 82.35.114.40 19:42, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
It is stated that Judy Coolibar may have been based on Germaine Greer, and whilst I can see the similarities, I got the impression that the character was introduced before Greer was really in the public eye. Does anyone have anything that would back to claim up? Queerpuppyboy 01:49, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Surely, "Green grow your nadgers-O!" should be "Green grow my nadgers-O!"?
There were, if my memory has not failed my tsohg completely, two different versions of this. One used the line "Green grows my bogling fork" ...
Keep grundling your parts - happily! And keep your cordwangles straight ...
PS I suspect a connexion between the "Rumpo" name and that of John Mortimer's immortal "Horace Rumpole" - but I have no proof.
Attempts to insert a name drop to the cover band "The Hamsters" is unwarrated and an example of gratuitous over linking. It is not related to the article at all, No one has ever anywhere commented on it or even mentioned it. It is constantly inserted by User:WebHamster an editor who has greated a vast amount of "The Hamsters" related material and strives to insert this band into any article he can. The official reference provided as a citation also makes no mention of the "Hamsters" whatsoever and does not lend any weight to this band being included here. Bluescreenofdef ( talk) 03:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
The fact that this band is influenced by this episode is not relevant to this article at all. The reference provided does not even mention the Hamsters. Search for it. No one anywhere ever has commented on the relationship between the Hamster and this episode. It is nothing more than wiki abuse and an attempt to push a band name through as many links as possible. Bluescreenofdef ( talk) 03:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not saying "The Hamsters" were not influenced by this episode. I am saying that fact is not notable for this article per WP:WEIGHT. No one cares about this fact. It has not been mentioned by anyone EVER around the world. It is just not comment worthy and just a blatant attempt to insert a band name where it doesn't belong for gratuitous self promotion reasons. Bluescreenofdef ( talk) 04:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
This naming episode may be relevant in the Hamsters article, however it is not notable for this article. I ask again when has anyone Ever anywhere commented on this tenuous link? Bluescreenofdef ( talk) 04:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Lyn Took was divorced from Barry Took a couple of years before his death - she divorced him. That makes her an ex-wife in the same way as Dorothy Took was an ex-wife. I hope that clarifies the situation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemesisthrup ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
In episode 13 of the first series, he is said to be Japanese.( 84.236.152.71 ( talk) 14:55, 2 June 2015 (UTC))
The word 'massive' was removed from 'massive heart attack'. As I understand it,Ken Horne died suddenly from heart disease. I can't find a cite just now -- can anyone else?
That would be very unlikely to be true, sjc. Are you making the point that the people around him lead unhealthy lives, or they just happened to die this way? -Adrian.
The description of 'futtock' as an item of ship's rigging is not technically correct. From the live link he/she has made, it is clear that the author has mistaken 'futtock-shroud' (which is an item of rigging) for the root word, which may sound reasonable, but is a bit like assuming that a tree-house is the same as a tree, or a horse-fly is the same as a horse. A terribly minor point, I accept, but why be incorrect when it's avoidable? I'll change it. Grubstreet ( talk) 06:04, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Palomi uses it as an adjective, and I don't think RTH ever used it any other way. Princess Anne was almost certainly quoting Ronnie Barker's character Fletch in Porridge, who used it far more frequently as in "Naff off..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.27.228.169 ( talk) 21:58, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
SchroCat, a bot has made some weird changes to the references, including adding confusing numbers in brackets for BBC Genome refs. I'm minded to revert to the FA version. What think you? (and what think anyone else, of course?) Tim riley talk 11:23, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Hmmm, I just tried to make a small series of edits but some of them appear not to have saved, despite appearing in the history thing. I'll leave it for a bit in case Wikipedia is having one of its regular hiccups and see if I can sort them out later. At the moment the article now shows a reference entry without the material referred to. -- bodnotbod 23:02, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
I came here to get an idea how many episodes there were. I don't know, however, whether it's worth putting it into the article. From britishcomedy.org.uk I then learned. There were four seasons with
16 episodes in season 1
13 episodes in season 2
20 episodes in season 3
16 episodes in season 4
+ 3 special episodes.
--- Jan, March 29, 2006
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Is it appropriate for one party to a two-party disagreement to give themselves the last word and unilaterally close the discussion (re. "James Bond spoofs")? I would have thought that determining that a discussion needed to be closed would fall to an editor watching from the sidelines, someone without a stake in the disagreement. Whereas, if you're one of two people in a dispute and you don't want to continue it, all you have to do is stop commenting. Jcejhay ( talk) 17:29, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I'm confused here, @ SchroCat:. I didn't think I was engaging in an edit war by un-reverting in tandem with supporting my revision with a source. But then I'm also not sure why the archive.org page that gives a complete episode-by-episode roster of the program, with all the "Kenneth Horne, Master Spy" sketches evident, is considered less reliable than the BBC page which (unless I missed something) gives few details at all. I mean, I get that a BBC web page is inherently more reliable than a user-driven site like archive.org; but the other thing is that my revision and the version it superseded don't exactly contradict each other—it's really more of a clarification. Sure, you can describe any one of the Bond spoof sketches as a film parody, but it is more accurate to note that they were a running routine, unlike the one-off film parodies. Jcejhay ( talk) 21:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Even the title of the show was an outrageous innuendo and I am surprised the author is not aware of this:- Naval expression "rounding the Horn" ie Cape Horn; Sexual innuendo "round the Horn(e)" ie Oral Sex 'erection = horn'
It is as naive to think otherwise than to assume that the Ken Dodd 'tickling stick' was anything other than a dildo "Have you got your tickling stick Missus?" 79.71.181.161 ( talk) 17:19, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
NO IT IS NOT - it is complete IGNORANCE on your part. How on Earth you can claim to any expertise in the point of this article ? Are you actually claiming different interpretations of these expressions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.71.181.161 ( talk) 17:34, 9 June 2019 (UTC)