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I found this edit summary in the history: (removed largely irrelevant pic; ssview from top of GE Building not really informative here; image found in that topic's article). The image in question was the top one. Just now the second one was added. Are views from the top really largely irrelevant? Or is the problem that this page might become a gallery ( WP:NOT)? -- Dschwen 07:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Someone vandalised the page and that exact same person removed it. Frankyboy5 04:21, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Height/Number of floors in the building:
List of tallest buildings in New York City
It would be good if there was a photo of the "I believe in the supreme worth of the individual" plaque. [1] -- Astrokey 44 09:07, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
According to the article, "[Rockefeller Center] is the largest privately held complex of its kind in the world". What exactly is "its kind"? TerraFrost 21:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
In Rockefeller Center, a private street called Rockefeller Plaza is situated between the RCA Building and the sunken skating rink. In order to preserve Rockefeller Center's right of ownership of the street, each year the street is closed to all traffic, even pedestrian, for one day - a Sunday in July is usually chosen as interfering least with tenants and visitors. It is believed by lawyers for Rockefeller Center that this formality is necessary to prevent the public from acquiring a permanent right of way in the street.
Cite - Dukeminier & Krier, Property (4th Ed. 1998) p. 814, fn. 14.
-- DCDukie 18:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)DCDukie
Should there be a mention about Hurley's Saloon?
Original plans for Rockefeller Center called for construction on the site of Hurley's Saloon, at the corner of 49th Street and Sixth Avenue. But the Hurley brothers refused to sell their lease. After they rebuffed several lucrative offers, Rockefeller was finally forced to redesign the plans for his 70-story centerpiece, the RCA building (now the GE building), in order to build around the tiny four-story saloon. Impressed by the bar owners' determination to stand up to the powerful financier, journalists from the nearby offices of the Associated Press and NBC began frequenting Hurley's, making it a kind of unofficial newsroom for decades, until the bar relocated to the Theater District in 1999.
And a photo would be super nice~!
WikiDon 19:34, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Wait, what?
"The Center represents a turning point in the history of architectural sculpture: it is among the last major building projects in the United States to incorporate a program of integrated public art."
Well, define "major" then, because Oregon, for one, mandates 1% of a public building's budget to go to art. I'm wondering if it's actually trying to say that the Rock was the FIRST such building project to incorporate public art. Needs help in any case. ---Ransom (-- 71.4.51.150 ( talk) 16:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC))
Need more detail on the skating rink. Maybe even a separate article. Klausner ( talk) 00:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
It might be informative to cite Ida Tarbell's article on his pop in McClure's, as well as his own role in the Ludlow massacre to contrast his words with his deeds, and to historically reflect on the source of the family's wealth.
Dstlascaux ( talk) 20:02, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
There is a section called "former buildings". Presumably those are divested buildings no longer owned and "governed" by Speyer/Mitsubishi & co but to my knowledge the Rockefeller Center is a historic landmark which means that there is a permanent section of a group of buildings that is historic (even if they are separated and sold). If so then why is there a "former buildings" section in the article? Isn't it the case that if these "former buildings" and the surrounding land lot part of the designated "historic landmark" anyway? If so then there is no reason to say "former" since they are "current" as well (something else should be written to indicate separate ownership if that's the original intent of the section). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loginnigol ( talk • contribs) 07:48, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, I was wondering why is there so few information about the Plaza (Centre). As a foreigner I was quite surprised to see the coat of arms of the UK in the centre of NY, while watching the 30 Rock opening theme. I tried to find something about the building and naturally my first search was on enwiki. But there are only few words about it! And here I read that there is a French building as well (fun fact) but nothing more! Could you, fine and proud people of the New World, write something more (for instance in a new article) about this buildings? I would be more than glad to see them myself one day... if I'll get a visa. :) All the best! 77.253.71.87 ( talk) 19:00, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
the sale and later repurchase for a dollar would seem to be a worthwhile chapter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patbahn ( talk • contribs) 04:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
The article says the main building (that houses Top of the Rock?) is called the GE building, but it seems that on the exterior of that building facing Rockefeller Plaza it now has the name "Comcast Building" on it. Is this a change that hasn't been updated reflected in the article yet? Or do I have my buildings mixed up? Showeropera ( talk) 14:02, 12 July 2015 (UTC) Showeropera ( talk) 14:02, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Is it worth noting that Frank Chickens wrote a song about the Mitsubishi Rockefeller fiasco? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homusubi ( talk • contribs) 11:00, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
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Set up preliminary outline for assessment:
0 Lede
1 History
1.1 Context
1.2 Updated project
1.2.1 Planning
...led to the construction of Art Deco structures in New York City with significant setbacks, large volumes, and striking silhouettes that were often elaborately decorated. epicgenius ( talk) 18:05, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
1.2.2 Construction
5.0 (W) - 25.0 (T) mm (35mm film equivalent: 28 (W) - 140 (T) mm), according to the manufacturer. It's very unlikely that this is incorrect, but even if I raised this on VP, this would be more of a Commons issue. epicgenius ( talk) 02:07, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
1.3 World War II era
1.4 Expansion
1.5 Later years
2 Buildings
2.1 Landmark buildings
2.1.1 Radio City
2.1.2 International complex
2.1.3 Other buildings
2.2 Later buildings
3 Other architectural elements
3.1 Lower Plaza
3.2 Rockefeller Plaza
3.3 Rooftop gardens
3.4 Underground concourse
3.5 Pre-existing buildings
These buildings exist as a result of two tenants who refused to sell their rights to Rockefeller during construction. epicgenius ( talk) 19:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
4 Art
4.1 Statues
4.1.1 Atlas
4.1.2 Prometheus
4.2 Man at the Crossroads
5 Critical review
6 References
When you are finished with the added comments above which I have made, then let me know and I would like to do one more full read through. The architecture and urban planning material is useful to add more about in this article. JohnWickTwo ( talk) 03:40, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
The editor submitting this article for assessment writes better than average for Wikipedia, and has been diligent and prompt in making useful and informative changes. There is a parallel article currently being developed by the submitting editor on Construction for Rockefeller Center and either it or this article here, if it ever goes toward featured article status, should eventually include an Urban design section which would deal with community issues and the effect of Rockefeller Center on the immediate streets and avenues of NYC which surround it. The images in the current article are quite useful and informative, and the article seems to check all of the assessment boxes. The article is promoted and makes a useful addition to the family of articles at Wikipedia which cover NYC. JohnWickTwo ( talk) 03:04, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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I found this edit summary in the history: (removed largely irrelevant pic; ssview from top of GE Building not really informative here; image found in that topic's article). The image in question was the top one. Just now the second one was added. Are views from the top really largely irrelevant? Or is the problem that this page might become a gallery ( WP:NOT)? -- Dschwen 07:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Someone vandalised the page and that exact same person removed it. Frankyboy5 04:21, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Height/Number of floors in the building:
List of tallest buildings in New York City
It would be good if there was a photo of the "I believe in the supreme worth of the individual" plaque. [1] -- Astrokey 44 09:07, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
According to the article, "[Rockefeller Center] is the largest privately held complex of its kind in the world". What exactly is "its kind"? TerraFrost 21:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
In Rockefeller Center, a private street called Rockefeller Plaza is situated between the RCA Building and the sunken skating rink. In order to preserve Rockefeller Center's right of ownership of the street, each year the street is closed to all traffic, even pedestrian, for one day - a Sunday in July is usually chosen as interfering least with tenants and visitors. It is believed by lawyers for Rockefeller Center that this formality is necessary to prevent the public from acquiring a permanent right of way in the street.
Cite - Dukeminier & Krier, Property (4th Ed. 1998) p. 814, fn. 14.
-- DCDukie 18:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)DCDukie
Should there be a mention about Hurley's Saloon?
Original plans for Rockefeller Center called for construction on the site of Hurley's Saloon, at the corner of 49th Street and Sixth Avenue. But the Hurley brothers refused to sell their lease. After they rebuffed several lucrative offers, Rockefeller was finally forced to redesign the plans for his 70-story centerpiece, the RCA building (now the GE building), in order to build around the tiny four-story saloon. Impressed by the bar owners' determination to stand up to the powerful financier, journalists from the nearby offices of the Associated Press and NBC began frequenting Hurley's, making it a kind of unofficial newsroom for decades, until the bar relocated to the Theater District in 1999.
And a photo would be super nice~!
WikiDon 19:34, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Wait, what?
"The Center represents a turning point in the history of architectural sculpture: it is among the last major building projects in the United States to incorporate a program of integrated public art."
Well, define "major" then, because Oregon, for one, mandates 1% of a public building's budget to go to art. I'm wondering if it's actually trying to say that the Rock was the FIRST such building project to incorporate public art. Needs help in any case. ---Ransom (-- 71.4.51.150 ( talk) 16:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC))
Need more detail on the skating rink. Maybe even a separate article. Klausner ( talk) 00:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
It might be informative to cite Ida Tarbell's article on his pop in McClure's, as well as his own role in the Ludlow massacre to contrast his words with his deeds, and to historically reflect on the source of the family's wealth.
Dstlascaux ( talk) 20:02, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
There is a section called "former buildings". Presumably those are divested buildings no longer owned and "governed" by Speyer/Mitsubishi & co but to my knowledge the Rockefeller Center is a historic landmark which means that there is a permanent section of a group of buildings that is historic (even if they are separated and sold). If so then why is there a "former buildings" section in the article? Isn't it the case that if these "former buildings" and the surrounding land lot part of the designated "historic landmark" anyway? If so then there is no reason to say "former" since they are "current" as well (something else should be written to indicate separate ownership if that's the original intent of the section). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loginnigol ( talk • contribs) 07:48, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, I was wondering why is there so few information about the Plaza (Centre). As a foreigner I was quite surprised to see the coat of arms of the UK in the centre of NY, while watching the 30 Rock opening theme. I tried to find something about the building and naturally my first search was on enwiki. But there are only few words about it! And here I read that there is a French building as well (fun fact) but nothing more! Could you, fine and proud people of the New World, write something more (for instance in a new article) about this buildings? I would be more than glad to see them myself one day... if I'll get a visa. :) All the best! 77.253.71.87 ( talk) 19:00, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
the sale and later repurchase for a dollar would seem to be a worthwhile chapter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patbahn ( talk • contribs) 04:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
The article says the main building (that houses Top of the Rock?) is called the GE building, but it seems that on the exterior of that building facing Rockefeller Plaza it now has the name "Comcast Building" on it. Is this a change that hasn't been updated reflected in the article yet? Or do I have my buildings mixed up? Showeropera ( talk) 14:02, 12 July 2015 (UTC) Showeropera ( talk) 14:02, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Is it worth noting that Frank Chickens wrote a song about the Mitsubishi Rockefeller fiasco? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homusubi ( talk • contribs) 11:00, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
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This may take a day or two to prepare. In the meantime, it might be useful to hear how you are organizing the two sister articles for this page and the article for Construction of Rockefeller Center which you are also editing.
JohnWickTwo (
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Set up preliminary outline for assessment:
0 Lede
1 History
1.1 Context
1.2 Updated project
1.2.1 Planning
...led to the construction of Art Deco structures in New York City with significant setbacks, large volumes, and striking silhouettes that were often elaborately decorated. epicgenius ( talk) 18:05, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
1.2.2 Construction
5.0 (W) - 25.0 (T) mm (35mm film equivalent: 28 (W) - 140 (T) mm), according to the manufacturer. It's very unlikely that this is incorrect, but even if I raised this on VP, this would be more of a Commons issue. epicgenius ( talk) 02:07, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
1.3 World War II era
1.4 Expansion
1.5 Later years
2 Buildings
2.1 Landmark buildings
2.1.1 Radio City
2.1.2 International complex
2.1.3 Other buildings
2.2 Later buildings
3 Other architectural elements
3.1 Lower Plaza
3.2 Rockefeller Plaza
3.3 Rooftop gardens
3.4 Underground concourse
3.5 Pre-existing buildings
These buildings exist as a result of two tenants who refused to sell their rights to Rockefeller during construction. epicgenius ( talk) 19:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
4 Art
4.1 Statues
4.1.1 Atlas
4.1.2 Prometheus
4.2 Man at the Crossroads
5 Critical review
6 References
When you are finished with the added comments above which I have made, then let me know and I would like to do one more full read through. The architecture and urban planning material is useful to add more about in this article. JohnWickTwo ( talk) 03:40, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
The editor submitting this article for assessment writes better than average for Wikipedia, and has been diligent and prompt in making useful and informative changes. There is a parallel article currently being developed by the submitting editor on Construction for Rockefeller Center and either it or this article here, if it ever goes toward featured article status, should eventually include an Urban design section which would deal with community issues and the effect of Rockefeller Center on the immediate streets and avenues of NYC which surround it. The images in the current article are quite useful and informative, and the article seems to check all of the assessment boxes. The article is promoted and makes a useful addition to the family of articles at Wikipedia which cover NYC. JohnWickTwo ( talk) 03:04, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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