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The fact is, it is a fact he appears in the Alvin Maker series. The author acknowledges this, and considering the many historical figures who appear therein are acknowledged as such in their respective Wikipedia articles (see Tecumseh, Tenskwatawa, and many others), it seems rather illogical. Can someone explain the rationale? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.211.220.238 ( talk • contribs) 15 January 2006
It is unimportant regarding purely his role in his history. However, considering it was under his legacy (generally things named after him) and this is a popular enough book series to merit that, well. And I only added that information after checking that I was right with the author. While the character is only referred to be name as a Captain Fitzroy, his age corresponds as does his ancestry and life story in general.
RickK 03:02, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Popsracer 03:47, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Further to Popracer's commentt,
b}The original pole at Kororareka was donated by Hone Heke so he felt he had a proprietory right to cut it down in protest. ping 07:50, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
This article needs much more on Fitzroy's time as captain of the Beagle and his work in meteorology. I'll try to add some material when I have a chance, but at present it's very unbalanced. I doubt whether the man would have wanted to be remembered for his time in New Zealand! (Although having said that, he was, because of his fundamentalist Christian beliefs, mortified to have been connected with Darwin.) Jerry cornelius 05:01, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I think the name should be written "Fitzroy" rather than "FitzRoy". The capitalisation of conflated names (FitzPatrick, LeGrand etc) is an American rather than a British convention, although things may have been different in 1831.
~RG —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.173.6.74 ( talk • contribs)
"the ship under Lieutenant Skyring sailed to Rio de Janeiro, where Otway made FitzRoy (temporary) Captain of the Beagle" -- So who was Otway? Robert Otway? - that article gives no relevant info. -- Writtenonsand 16:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I've made the link to the shortlist an inline citation, however note that there's no citation for "thoroughly researched" which appears questionable from Amazon reviews – if "Fitzroy is depicted as a devout man of God, struggling to maintain his beliefs in a brutal and rapidly changing time of colonisation and advancement in science. Darwin is portrayed as an aloof and arrogant young man who is more oft than not in conflict with the more traditional views of Fitzroy." accurately indicates the book's description of the Beagle period, it conflicts with the assessment of current historians and with FirzRoy's own writings as discussed in the article. .. dave souza, talk 18:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
His journals are available online at the Darwin Online site - worth a link? Skipperjeru 11:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Almost all of the article is based on the book "To the Edge of the World" from Harry Thompson, which is not a reliable source in any way 187.15.83.54 ( talk) 17:12, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
The 'Memorials' subsection of the 'Death and legacy' section claims that "Fitzroy Island in Queensland, Australia is named after FitzRoy" but the Fitzroy Island (Queensland) article says it is named after Augustus Henry Fitzroy. Which version is correct? JezGrove ( talk) 21:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
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The fact is, it is a fact he appears in the Alvin Maker series. The author acknowledges this, and considering the many historical figures who appear therein are acknowledged as such in their respective Wikipedia articles (see Tecumseh, Tenskwatawa, and many others), it seems rather illogical. Can someone explain the rationale? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.211.220.238 ( talk • contribs) 15 January 2006
It is unimportant regarding purely his role in his history. However, considering it was under his legacy (generally things named after him) and this is a popular enough book series to merit that, well. And I only added that information after checking that I was right with the author. While the character is only referred to be name as a Captain Fitzroy, his age corresponds as does his ancestry and life story in general.
RickK 03:02, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Popsracer 03:47, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Further to Popracer's commentt,
b}The original pole at Kororareka was donated by Hone Heke so he felt he had a proprietory right to cut it down in protest. ping 07:50, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
This article needs much more on Fitzroy's time as captain of the Beagle and his work in meteorology. I'll try to add some material when I have a chance, but at present it's very unbalanced. I doubt whether the man would have wanted to be remembered for his time in New Zealand! (Although having said that, he was, because of his fundamentalist Christian beliefs, mortified to have been connected with Darwin.) Jerry cornelius 05:01, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I think the name should be written "Fitzroy" rather than "FitzRoy". The capitalisation of conflated names (FitzPatrick, LeGrand etc) is an American rather than a British convention, although things may have been different in 1831.
~RG —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.173.6.74 ( talk • contribs)
"the ship under Lieutenant Skyring sailed to Rio de Janeiro, where Otway made FitzRoy (temporary) Captain of the Beagle" -- So who was Otway? Robert Otway? - that article gives no relevant info. -- Writtenonsand 16:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I've made the link to the shortlist an inline citation, however note that there's no citation for "thoroughly researched" which appears questionable from Amazon reviews – if "Fitzroy is depicted as a devout man of God, struggling to maintain his beliefs in a brutal and rapidly changing time of colonisation and advancement in science. Darwin is portrayed as an aloof and arrogant young man who is more oft than not in conflict with the more traditional views of Fitzroy." accurately indicates the book's description of the Beagle period, it conflicts with the assessment of current historians and with FirzRoy's own writings as discussed in the article. .. dave souza, talk 18:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
His journals are available online at the Darwin Online site - worth a link? Skipperjeru 11:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Almost all of the article is based on the book "To the Edge of the World" from Harry Thompson, which is not a reliable source in any way 187.15.83.54 ( talk) 17:12, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
The 'Memorials' subsection of the 'Death and legacy' section claims that "Fitzroy Island in Queensland, Australia is named after FitzRoy" but the Fitzroy Island (Queensland) article says it is named after Augustus Henry Fitzroy. Which version is correct? JezGrove ( talk) 21:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)