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I don't understand why being publically insulted by all your friends is considered an honor. I'm sure this facet of roasting must confuse other people, as well. Perhaps this subject needs to be elaborated on in the article.
24.126.174.180 10:39, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Agreed-- 70.67.6.8 04:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree as well Freeflux 18:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
This article needs a major clean-up, as it stands it reads mainly as original research. Placement in the popular culture of (presumably) the USA may well help, I am not aware of this usage outside of this narrow field Markb 20:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
The 'roast' is described quite well here however, the assumption is that the person being 'roasted' is not a hopeless tight-ass and they understand that love is best when mixed with a dash of sarcasm! How deep is the cave where people live who do not understand this?
I agree with the above poster. Perhaps it's a New York thing, or a thing with its origins in New York culture, but it's now pretty standard behavior in the U.S. I think. You "bust the chops" (i.e. playfully insult) of people you like, love, and respect. The "roasts" started out, and still continue, at the Friair's Club in NYC, and were carried to California and the Beverly Hills club by performers who were either from the New York area or had worked here a lot. It's really a part of American show business culture. Alinnyc 22:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I must say that I don't understand the concept of Roasting at all. The article does indeed need a complete re-write and sounds an awful lot like original research. The problem is, the type of person who thinks that an insult is a compliment is not exactly the best person to identify whether or not an article is up to quality or not. 76.168.46.83 06:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The first time I heard of that "phenomenon" over here in germany was in TV-News about the controversy at Whoopi Goldbergs Roast in the Friars Club, as is referenced in her WP:Article: Quote: "In 1993, Goldberg was briefly involved with Ted Danson, who was married at the time and caring for his wife, who had survived a stroke. There was controversy following a comedy routine at a Friars Club roast that was performed in blackface. The fact that Goldberg herself had written the script was often overlooked." - 80.135.146.211 ( talk) 13:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
If you just come upon this article, it probably is a little bit hard to understand. But I had to look it up after seeing a video of Norm MacDonald's Genius Roast Of Bob Saget, and had absolutely no clue was going on. While the article may be a bit short, once you actually see roasting, it all falls into place. -- Cynebeald ( talk) 10:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Channel 4 (In the UK) have been billing a series of comedy roasts for 04.07.10, 05.07.10, 06.07.10 (using the American date system). If this is true this should be added - I believe the roastees are Bruce Forsyth (sp?), Sharon Osbourne and Chris Tarrant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tory88 ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Removed Trey Parker from the list of roasts. He has not been roasted by Comedy Central, or anyone for that matter. Beerduck ( talk) 16:53, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Link nr. 2 (Sandoval, Greg. "Video of Presidential roast attracts big Web audience". Cnet News.com. Retrieved 2006-05-08.) leads to a html containing only an 1x1 Gif-File. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.37.171.41 ( talk) 12:28, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
there is more information on norwegian wikipedia which is accessed through the language links. 2A02:FE0:C100:1:1531:B302:E6D7:BB73 ( talk) 23:12, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Do NOT get this at all. I mean, WTF? These things are lethal. We're not talking about a little good-natured teasing, we're talking about poison served as champagne. What the hell is wrong with Americans? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.61.67.237 ( talk) 17:28, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
There is a long tradition of comedy roasts, with standard elements such as the roastee, roastmaster, panel of guests and so on. There is also a tradition of " insult comedy" - comedians or would-be comedians insulting audience members, celebrities, or passers-by in order to get a laugh. Roasts can certainly be seen as a subset of insult comedy. But what seems to be new is people referring to random insults as "roasts", including a YouTube comedian (whom one editor recently added information about to this article) who likes to go around insulting random people, which some of his fans apparently describe as "roasts". Perhaps insulting random people on the street fits some definition of the word "roast", but it's not the definition that this article covers. I believe this article covers (or should cover) only insults targeted at someone who has given explicit or at least perceived consent for the mockery; everything else is simply insult comedy. Korny O'Near ( talk) 23:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC):
I'm not sure what that article is supposed to prove, but in any case it's not a reliable source so it's not relevant. Please see the guideline on original research. Korny O'Near ( talk) 19:27, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
“ | Roasting is a form of humor in which a specific individual is voluntarily or involuntarily, subjected to insulting jokes and ridicule by one or more people, usually intended to amuse a wider audience or to humiliate and upset the roasted individual. Roasting can be often used as a form of cyberbullying or bullying amongst pre-teens and teens who are involuntarily roasted. Roasting can also be organized into public events that are intended to honor a specific individual in a unique way. | ” |
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I don't understand why being publically insulted by all your friends is considered an honor. I'm sure this facet of roasting must confuse other people, as well. Perhaps this subject needs to be elaborated on in the article.
24.126.174.180 10:39, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Agreed-- 70.67.6.8 04:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree as well Freeflux 18:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
This article needs a major clean-up, as it stands it reads mainly as original research. Placement in the popular culture of (presumably) the USA may well help, I am not aware of this usage outside of this narrow field Markb 20:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
The 'roast' is described quite well here however, the assumption is that the person being 'roasted' is not a hopeless tight-ass and they understand that love is best when mixed with a dash of sarcasm! How deep is the cave where people live who do not understand this?
I agree with the above poster. Perhaps it's a New York thing, or a thing with its origins in New York culture, but it's now pretty standard behavior in the U.S. I think. You "bust the chops" (i.e. playfully insult) of people you like, love, and respect. The "roasts" started out, and still continue, at the Friair's Club in NYC, and were carried to California and the Beverly Hills club by performers who were either from the New York area or had worked here a lot. It's really a part of American show business culture. Alinnyc 22:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I must say that I don't understand the concept of Roasting at all. The article does indeed need a complete re-write and sounds an awful lot like original research. The problem is, the type of person who thinks that an insult is a compliment is not exactly the best person to identify whether or not an article is up to quality or not. 76.168.46.83 06:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The first time I heard of that "phenomenon" over here in germany was in TV-News about the controversy at Whoopi Goldbergs Roast in the Friars Club, as is referenced in her WP:Article: Quote: "In 1993, Goldberg was briefly involved with Ted Danson, who was married at the time and caring for his wife, who had survived a stroke. There was controversy following a comedy routine at a Friars Club roast that was performed in blackface. The fact that Goldberg herself had written the script was often overlooked." - 80.135.146.211 ( talk) 13:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
If you just come upon this article, it probably is a little bit hard to understand. But I had to look it up after seeing a video of Norm MacDonald's Genius Roast Of Bob Saget, and had absolutely no clue was going on. While the article may be a bit short, once you actually see roasting, it all falls into place. -- Cynebeald ( talk) 10:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Channel 4 (In the UK) have been billing a series of comedy roasts for 04.07.10, 05.07.10, 06.07.10 (using the American date system). If this is true this should be added - I believe the roastees are Bruce Forsyth (sp?), Sharon Osbourne and Chris Tarrant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tory88 ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Removed Trey Parker from the list of roasts. He has not been roasted by Comedy Central, or anyone for that matter. Beerduck ( talk) 16:53, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Link nr. 2 (Sandoval, Greg. "Video of Presidential roast attracts big Web audience". Cnet News.com. Retrieved 2006-05-08.) leads to a html containing only an 1x1 Gif-File. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.37.171.41 ( talk) 12:28, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
there is more information on norwegian wikipedia which is accessed through the language links. 2A02:FE0:C100:1:1531:B302:E6D7:BB73 ( talk) 23:12, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Do NOT get this at all. I mean, WTF? These things are lethal. We're not talking about a little good-natured teasing, we're talking about poison served as champagne. What the hell is wrong with Americans? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.61.67.237 ( talk) 17:28, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
There is a long tradition of comedy roasts, with standard elements such as the roastee, roastmaster, panel of guests and so on. There is also a tradition of " insult comedy" - comedians or would-be comedians insulting audience members, celebrities, or passers-by in order to get a laugh. Roasts can certainly be seen as a subset of insult comedy. But what seems to be new is people referring to random insults as "roasts", including a YouTube comedian (whom one editor recently added information about to this article) who likes to go around insulting random people, which some of his fans apparently describe as "roasts". Perhaps insulting random people on the street fits some definition of the word "roast", but it's not the definition that this article covers. I believe this article covers (or should cover) only insults targeted at someone who has given explicit or at least perceived consent for the mockery; everything else is simply insult comedy. Korny O'Near ( talk) 23:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC):
I'm not sure what that article is supposed to prove, but in any case it's not a reliable source so it's not relevant. Please see the guideline on original research. Korny O'Near ( talk) 19:27, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
“ | Roasting is a form of humor in which a specific individual is voluntarily or involuntarily, subjected to insulting jokes and ridicule by one or more people, usually intended to amuse a wider audience or to humiliate and upset the roasted individual. Roasting can be often used as a form of cyberbullying or bullying amongst pre-teens and teens who are involuntarily roasted. Roasting can also be organized into public events that are intended to honor a specific individual in a unique way. | ” |