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I just read (or tried to read) the Google translation of the Hebrew language Wikipedia article and I cannot find any hint of a distinction between freeways and expressways. In my opinion, this is dubious and we should consider deleting the distinction from the English language article. Are there any readers of Hebrew here who can confirm one way or the other?
M Carling08:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Greetings! Google translate is not perfect.
What are termed Freeways/Controlled-access highways in Wikipedia are fully controlled roads using interchanges and/or on-off ramps to service roads for connections to intersecting roads. In Hebrew, such a Freeway is called a Kvish Mahir, literally, Fast Road. Indeed, the Hebrew page uses the term Kvish Mahir. Unfortunately, Google simply and incorrectly translates this into Highway. By the way, a Kvish Mahir is sometimes referred to as a Kvish Memuhlaf (Interchanged Road) in official Ministry of Transport planning documents. This article and its Hebrew counterpart need to be updated. As of 2013, Israel has at least 4 Freeways in their entirety, several more soon-to-be and another 7 which are Freeways along a significant portion of their lengths.I think my count is correct, pending further investigation
What are termed
Expressways/Dual Carriageways or
Limited-access roads in Wikipedia (two very similar concepts) are high-speed roads which have median divider separation, but have uncontrolled or traffic-light controlled junctions. There are about 35 such roads in Israel, although this number is actually decreasing as some are being converted into full fledged Freeways.
In my opinion, therefore, (the Hebrew version of the page notwithstanding), the distinction between Freeway and Expressway is a valid one to describe two different kinds of high-speed roads. Indeed, the article needs to be updated and mention needs to be included to describe ongoing work to upgrade present expressways to freeway status. --
@Efrat (
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13:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Thanks @Efrat! I'm glad I asked! Unfortunately, I won't be able to make these updates because I cannot read the Hebrew sources. I hope you may find the time to do it.
M Carling20:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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Israel on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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I just read (or tried to read) the Google translation of the Hebrew language Wikipedia article and I cannot find any hint of a distinction between freeways and expressways. In my opinion, this is dubious and we should consider deleting the distinction from the English language article. Are there any readers of Hebrew here who can confirm one way or the other?
M Carling08:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Greetings! Google translate is not perfect.
What are termed Freeways/Controlled-access highways in Wikipedia are fully controlled roads using interchanges and/or on-off ramps to service roads for connections to intersecting roads. In Hebrew, such a Freeway is called a Kvish Mahir, literally, Fast Road. Indeed, the Hebrew page uses the term Kvish Mahir. Unfortunately, Google simply and incorrectly translates this into Highway. By the way, a Kvish Mahir is sometimes referred to as a Kvish Memuhlaf (Interchanged Road) in official Ministry of Transport planning documents. This article and its Hebrew counterpart need to be updated. As of 2013, Israel has at least 4 Freeways in their entirety, several more soon-to-be and another 7 which are Freeways along a significant portion of their lengths.I think my count is correct, pending further investigation
What are termed
Expressways/Dual Carriageways or
Limited-access roads in Wikipedia (two very similar concepts) are high-speed roads which have median divider separation, but have uncontrolled or traffic-light controlled junctions. There are about 35 such roads in Israel, although this number is actually decreasing as some are being converted into full fledged Freeways.
In my opinion, therefore, (the Hebrew version of the page notwithstanding), the distinction between Freeway and Expressway is a valid one to describe two different kinds of high-speed roads. Indeed, the article needs to be updated and mention needs to be included to describe ongoing work to upgrade present expressways to freeway status. --
@Efrat (
talk)
13:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Thanks @Efrat! I'm glad I asked! Unfortunately, I won't be able to make these updates because I cannot read the Hebrew sources. I hope you may find the time to do it.
M Carling20:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)reply