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A lot of bulk short-haul work is done with "truck and dog", this includes a lot of coal haulage as well as road & general construction material / fill / waste. Huge use of 1-4 tonne trucks (as big as you can go on a car/1A licence) may be worth mentioning. We put everything in commercial vehicles because of our legal situation - look at use of motorcycles in Vietnam, over there a moto is a commercial vehicle. So potentially, the trucks section needs some more articles to refer to maybe? Ga rr ie 00:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Could we use the ABS for stats on motor vehicle usage rather than AAA? (neutrality etc). Hey, the NRMA didn't object to ripping out tram lines in Sydney - what a suprise! The AAA go around telling politicians "everyone owns a car and uses it every day" - also, what a suprise! Ga rr ie 00:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
In fact have a more colourful history than the earlier first sentence of that section suggests - anyone aware of ancillary bicycle history in separate articles that i might not otherwise pick up? Satu Suro 04:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
We mention Australian car manufacturers. Are there any "real" Ozzie push-bike manufacturers left, either with or worthy of an article? Ga rr ie 20:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be good to include a section on motoring organisations.
The ones I know are all listed at Australian Automobile Association and are member entities. Unfortunately the articles for these organisations are pretty poor.
I think they should be mentioned but I don't want to sound like a copywriter and I can't think of anything to mention that doesn't come accross as an advertisement. I don't know how normal membership of similar organisations is in the US/UK? Ga rr ie 21:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm:
Ga rr ie 01:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Well so much for the standardised road rules! If they vary from state to state it is best to leave it out I guess. Ga rr ie 03:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Garrie and I have been working on the words of the "Highways" section, and perhaps need someone else to take a look, particularly with respect to definitions and road surfaces. I took exception to the Connie Sue Highway photo as an example of an Australian highway so described it and similar roads (thinking of Anne Beadell Highway and Gunbarrel Highway) as named ironically. Garrie has quite reasonably pointed out that the Cobb Highway is a highway and is also not sealed. He also pointed out that even these roads are there as the shortest path to somewhere. We have a reference on National Highway (Australia), but not on any of the other highways lists to show authoritatively what is considered a "highway" I note that the Cobb Highway has a route number, but Connie Sue Highway does not. Rather than us banging heads on our different POVs, could someone else check it over please? The current text may well be OK, but needs a different photo (or none). Maybe swap that photo and the next? -- Scott Davis Talk 03:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Current lead does not refer the article in any way back to Transport in Australia - which I feel it should.
How about Road transport is an essential element of transport in Australia infrastructure due to the large land area of the country and ....
It doesn't sound quite right but there should be an equivalent link from Road transport in Australia to Transport in Australia, as there is already going the other way. Ga rr ie 05:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I have worn out that palindromes welcome. But can some one answer my query? Inclusion, yea or nay? - Fred 13:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Sincere apologies if I have generated any confusion with my examples - if. I don't think licences define road or rail transport. Bicycles are fine for inclusion, but unlicenced. Sorry, I don't know who licences trams or their drivers. Again, not sure that is relevant. Where they are is, on the roads. Historically, all states had trams. Some still do and these are highly effective form of road transport. Should we include trams? - Fred 15:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
there is already some mention of the historic use of bicyles in outback Australia. I think this could be linked to the use of bicycles as mounts/mobility by some regiments during WWI. Anyone got any thoughts on this? (eg: anyone have a reliable reference for which units did use bicycles in an official capacity (other than for messengers ) during WWI?) Ga rr ie 05:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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A lot of bulk short-haul work is done with "truck and dog", this includes a lot of coal haulage as well as road & general construction material / fill / waste. Huge use of 1-4 tonne trucks (as big as you can go on a car/1A licence) may be worth mentioning. We put everything in commercial vehicles because of our legal situation - look at use of motorcycles in Vietnam, over there a moto is a commercial vehicle. So potentially, the trucks section needs some more articles to refer to maybe? Ga rr ie 00:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Could we use the ABS for stats on motor vehicle usage rather than AAA? (neutrality etc). Hey, the NRMA didn't object to ripping out tram lines in Sydney - what a suprise! The AAA go around telling politicians "everyone owns a car and uses it every day" - also, what a suprise! Ga rr ie 00:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
In fact have a more colourful history than the earlier first sentence of that section suggests - anyone aware of ancillary bicycle history in separate articles that i might not otherwise pick up? Satu Suro 04:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
We mention Australian car manufacturers. Are there any "real" Ozzie push-bike manufacturers left, either with or worthy of an article? Ga rr ie 20:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be good to include a section on motoring organisations.
The ones I know are all listed at Australian Automobile Association and are member entities. Unfortunately the articles for these organisations are pretty poor.
I think they should be mentioned but I don't want to sound like a copywriter and I can't think of anything to mention that doesn't come accross as an advertisement. I don't know how normal membership of similar organisations is in the US/UK? Ga rr ie 21:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm:
Ga rr ie 01:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Well so much for the standardised road rules! If they vary from state to state it is best to leave it out I guess. Ga rr ie 03:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Garrie and I have been working on the words of the "Highways" section, and perhaps need someone else to take a look, particularly with respect to definitions and road surfaces. I took exception to the Connie Sue Highway photo as an example of an Australian highway so described it and similar roads (thinking of Anne Beadell Highway and Gunbarrel Highway) as named ironically. Garrie has quite reasonably pointed out that the Cobb Highway is a highway and is also not sealed. He also pointed out that even these roads are there as the shortest path to somewhere. We have a reference on National Highway (Australia), but not on any of the other highways lists to show authoritatively what is considered a "highway" I note that the Cobb Highway has a route number, but Connie Sue Highway does not. Rather than us banging heads on our different POVs, could someone else check it over please? The current text may well be OK, but needs a different photo (or none). Maybe swap that photo and the next? -- Scott Davis Talk 03:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Current lead does not refer the article in any way back to Transport in Australia - which I feel it should.
How about Road transport is an essential element of transport in Australia infrastructure due to the large land area of the country and ....
It doesn't sound quite right but there should be an equivalent link from Road transport in Australia to Transport in Australia, as there is already going the other way. Ga rr ie 05:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I have worn out that palindromes welcome. But can some one answer my query? Inclusion, yea or nay? - Fred 13:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Sincere apologies if I have generated any confusion with my examples - if. I don't think licences define road or rail transport. Bicycles are fine for inclusion, but unlicenced. Sorry, I don't know who licences trams or their drivers. Again, not sure that is relevant. Where they are is, on the roads. Historically, all states had trams. Some still do and these are highly effective form of road transport. Should we include trams? - Fred 15:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
there is already some mention of the historic use of bicyles in outback Australia. I think this could be linked to the use of bicycles as mounts/mobility by some regiments during WWI. Anyone got any thoughts on this? (eg: anyone have a reliable reference for which units did use bicycles in an official capacity (other than for messengers ) during WWI?) Ga rr ie 05:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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