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This article existed on Wiki Rinqingang. The spelling is interesting. DTM ( talk) 05:52, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
zh:隆吐山战役 has a nice map that helps one understand the geography. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
After Shengtai took office, he checked the old files and reported that Longtu Mountain was indeed Sikkim, which was recognized by the Qing court.
Found some quite detailed information about the Kagyu monastery ( 27°25′54″N 88°54′54″E / 27.4317895°N 88.9150545°E):
It is said that at the beginning of the 18th century, Cangba Ada, a monk from the Shangpa Kagyu sect, came to Yadong Rinchen Hill and asked for a legendary mother of the Golden Sea (Guangming Tomorrow Daughter, the Concubine of Shengle King Kong )
We can clearly see a pathway on the ridge line from Rinchengang to the monastery. Now the highway goes there directly
The write-up also says:
In the original dense forest south of the Kagyu Monastery [between the hilltop and the track], there was originally a Gelug temple named "Pasha Gompa". After the Sino-British Longtu-shan Battle in 1888, Pasha Gompa was abandoned. In 1890, the 13th Dalai Lama (Tuden Gyatso) ordered the transfer of the Dharma-protector temple of Pasha Gompa to the Kagyu Monastery and entrusted the management of the living Buddha Gesang Qumo Gyatso of the Kagyu Monastery.
I would imagine that the troops plundered the Gompa in 1888.
Incidentally, Google Maps shows a "Gajiu monastery" right on the path ( 27°25′41″N 88°55′02″E / 27.42801291123724°N 88.91719950414078°E). This must have been the site of the Pasha Gompa. I can see some faint signs of ruins there. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
The wall across the route is stil there. In fact, there are two walls now. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 21:32, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
I think this semicircular bend between the two sets of walls is where the village of Old Yatung was. Anywhere else in the valley is too narrow for a village to fit. Apparently the Chinese customs officer (who was usually British) lived here, and other people too according to Kawaguchi. During the British occupation of the Chumbi Valley, the customs officer was named Henderson. Alastair Lamb has this little tidbit to offer regarding him [1] (archive.org). -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 23:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Campbell's report, dated 8 October 1906, has the following names occurring:
So, it looks like Shasima was the first name given to the town, some time between 1904 and 1906. The reallocation of "Yatung" for the new town was a later invention. So, John Easton was right. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 01:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Laurence Waddell's description of Yatung as compared to Rinchengang is hell and heaven. Yatung— "Descending further, the sunshine became less chilly, and we reached in a clearing in the forest the much discussed and forlorn “trade-mart” of Yatung. It lies landlocked in the chill bottom of this narrow gorge, shut in by high hills, an impossible site for a trade-mart and, as we have seen, it was used by the Chinese to check trade from entering Tibet, instead of encouraging it ; and they employed as Tibetan representative an outlaw and notorious criminal from Darjeeling named Dargye". And Richengang as quoted in the article. DTM ( talk) 07:22, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
At last round a corner straggled the somewhat dour village of Yatung. Unlike Rinchengang, with its white houses of two or three stories, it was grey and grovelling. Hovel shops it had in plenty for it is an important place, with the British Trade Agent’s bungalow at the far end near the barracks of the small garrison of Indian troops, but it was slatternly like its people.
A full description of Yatung is given by White here. (These are part of the documents circulated to the House of Commons, organized into two booklets "Papers Relating to Tibet" - 1904, and "Further Papers Relating to Tibet" - 1920). Calling this a "village" is an insult to the term "village". One interesting thing that comes out from White's reports is that the Tibetans not only obstructed "British subjects" but also the Sikkimese, who used to have a reasonably free access earlier.
And we have some fun descriptions from a Daily Mail reporter called Edmund Candler: p.8-9 p.30-31. And his elucidation of the "Yatung castle" is here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 23:00, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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This article existed on Wiki Rinqingang. The spelling is interesting. DTM ( talk) 05:52, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
zh:隆吐山战役 has a nice map that helps one understand the geography. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
After Shengtai took office, he checked the old files and reported that Longtu Mountain was indeed Sikkim, which was recognized by the Qing court.
Found some quite detailed information about the Kagyu monastery ( 27°25′54″N 88°54′54″E / 27.4317895°N 88.9150545°E):
It is said that at the beginning of the 18th century, Cangba Ada, a monk from the Shangpa Kagyu sect, came to Yadong Rinchen Hill and asked for a legendary mother of the Golden Sea (Guangming Tomorrow Daughter, the Concubine of Shengle King Kong )
We can clearly see a pathway on the ridge line from Rinchengang to the monastery. Now the highway goes there directly
The write-up also says:
In the original dense forest south of the Kagyu Monastery [between the hilltop and the track], there was originally a Gelug temple named "Pasha Gompa". After the Sino-British Longtu-shan Battle in 1888, Pasha Gompa was abandoned. In 1890, the 13th Dalai Lama (Tuden Gyatso) ordered the transfer of the Dharma-protector temple of Pasha Gompa to the Kagyu Monastery and entrusted the management of the living Buddha Gesang Qumo Gyatso of the Kagyu Monastery.
I would imagine that the troops plundered the Gompa in 1888.
Incidentally, Google Maps shows a "Gajiu monastery" right on the path ( 27°25′41″N 88°55′02″E / 27.42801291123724°N 88.91719950414078°E). This must have been the site of the Pasha Gompa. I can see some faint signs of ruins there. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
The wall across the route is stil there. In fact, there are two walls now. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 21:32, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
I think this semicircular bend between the two sets of walls is where the village of Old Yatung was. Anywhere else in the valley is too narrow for a village to fit. Apparently the Chinese customs officer (who was usually British) lived here, and other people too according to Kawaguchi. During the British occupation of the Chumbi Valley, the customs officer was named Henderson. Alastair Lamb has this little tidbit to offer regarding him [1] (archive.org). -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 23:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Campbell's report, dated 8 October 1906, has the following names occurring:
So, it looks like Shasima was the first name given to the town, some time between 1904 and 1906. The reallocation of "Yatung" for the new town was a later invention. So, John Easton was right. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 01:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Laurence Waddell's description of Yatung as compared to Rinchengang is hell and heaven. Yatung— "Descending further, the sunshine became less chilly, and we reached in a clearing in the forest the much discussed and forlorn “trade-mart” of Yatung. It lies landlocked in the chill bottom of this narrow gorge, shut in by high hills, an impossible site for a trade-mart and, as we have seen, it was used by the Chinese to check trade from entering Tibet, instead of encouraging it ; and they employed as Tibetan representative an outlaw and notorious criminal from Darjeeling named Dargye". And Richengang as quoted in the article. DTM ( talk) 07:22, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
At last round a corner straggled the somewhat dour village of Yatung. Unlike Rinchengang, with its white houses of two or three stories, it was grey and grovelling. Hovel shops it had in plenty for it is an important place, with the British Trade Agent’s bungalow at the far end near the barracks of the small garrison of Indian troops, but it was slatternly like its people.
A full description of Yatung is given by White here. (These are part of the documents circulated to the House of Commons, organized into two booklets "Papers Relating to Tibet" - 1904, and "Further Papers Relating to Tibet" - 1920). Calling this a "village" is an insult to the term "village". One interesting thing that comes out from White's reports is that the Tibetans not only obstructed "British subjects" but also the Sikkimese, who used to have a reasonably free access earlier.
And we have some fun descriptions from a Daily Mail reporter called Edmund Candler: p.8-9 p.30-31. And his elucidation of the "Yatung castle" is here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 23:00, 2 April 2021 (UTC)